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White David and I came in hot and gave great start, but I think we're. I think, it's time it's time for a pilot. I don't know, I think it's time for whatever's dollop, a pilot pilot dollar backwards reversed up, so quick, if I may, your listening to the dollar. this is a equally it is to where each week I care, throttled comer of cats. massage drill, gun owner, push up, doer, reads a story. A two part story

From american history to my friend Dave Anthony, who does not know what the story is going to be, a close close, your clothes nice, try dairy, which will say something about push ups. Yet what is the? What is that type of thing? Pushups your thing Jacqueline! I, but it's not a thing that you say like this are really playing my part. Well huh, do you you shouldn't told me before I wrote a dollar Why do you always Strip was so spring? Is the lack of money? Is it if we became so fake like like that? The agriculture like right outside of ads? then again, I could see it happening. You know that, where that

call the quote his gym. Pat argument. Arguments is October, 22nd is October, twenty second and twenty, Oh, my god, look at you you're all grubs is Mr Timothy, Francis Leary was born in Springfield Massachusetts wow you better than I.

His father, but you know I gotta be honest. that's right away. This is a subject that I never cared about, nor a really read of his. I worry, there's gonna be some stuff. Ok! Well, let's say let's say that's great. No no, no! It's probably syringes thing on your saying this is when any one of the things that I just you know they turn and sit back and keep your pants on unless it back TIM's father was a dentist nickname tote with a real penchant for drinking sir, and for some reason you have a question already now: Yep tote, that's right like the bag, so he had a penchant dragging pursuit so for some reason. This resulted in a strange relationship with TIM Dave. I don't know if you would have any idea. What that's like, but Ah, now I don't know when your father drinking

at the time it could have any sort of effect on your love or your life. That's what I was that's the scab I wanted to pick, and so so his dad was around. Like a during dinner, he would invite the dog on the table to eat off the plates, or he would do tat. He would do that table cop who tablecloth yank trick, but instead of doing the trick or all the stuff, Still, he would just ruin the meal in the dishes tote dry. Did he do this on more than one occasion, yeah merely net. Clearly there local occasions. But I got in school guess I that is the best time for an Alec exam so to drink. So much he sold all of his dental equipment for forebears. Then, oh, and you know what that's of hurt is the dental it didn't effectively. from what I read the business without effect, whether deserted then I'd Christmas day in nineteen. Thirty, three,

it seems, grandfather who once told him find your own way be one of a kind died. The will reading TIM was outside playing baseball alone, which now that I read it does not sound like baseball Thirdly, does the ball so toad came out. If him a hundred dollars, he gave his mother Abigail a thousand dollars, and then he said he had quote business in New York and left TIM would see his father again for twenty three years. At the funeral he bailed at his at his own father's funeral. He gave eleven hundred dollars to his wife and child many set. I got business in New York and then that was it. Well now that my dad's dead, there's no reason to stick around here. Family do dying today, you know the great right now another huge loss right now, God he's loss Alakazam,

TIM's mother was very religious, so in nineteen thirty eight TIM went to study at Holy cross. He hated it he applied and got into West point. There. He was yelled at a lot more than most TIM had given the other cadets out, while at one time and he had lied about it, so he was asked to resign. He declined and he was silenced, which is where you're completely ignored by fellow cadets completely, so they treat him like a ghost after ten. Months of this, he finally caved in, resent my god. That's what they that's, what they do. The good cops interested. What was it and that's working out fantastically so no issue there? So next him applied to every state school he applied to the University of Alabama, which was the first one to accept them. So we went there. He found his first girlfriend named Betty Harlow, who TIM said, quote: love to fuck, He had so YO, he had

I gotta, I gotta be honest. I've had girlfriends, isn't the best time. You know you got you should go to. You should go there, so he had good grades, but he was expelled when he was caught, sneaking into Betty's room. For a quote, oral copulation AK, math fucking now was thinking. It was she was in fact her mother was he get a decent business with Dave? I didn't I wanted, yet another part, but it is hard to find it hard to find in might can I'd like it. What I pictured a mixture of a picture to trade, I pictured one of each I pictured a badge and that amount to pain, medical data And then maybe you can sneak into the other room and a little mouth to ask. You gotta go next door, though you don't have you know these rooms are you've been to the University of Alabama? Obviously, You know that population building! Excuse me should that be nice here, Sir sorry

data set of freshmen right there. I didn't notice a sign on the door. Well, you know the careful lay out and no term. Don't you see? Look I most people here all oral copulating by the way our kids you later I gotta get out of here? The dean alrighty. So I'm going to wipe ass off my mouth and head over to next move the robot, so it. He so he got kicked out so that made him eligible for the draft, but a case of bronchitis left him deaf in one ear, so he was able to avoid combat what that's a thing yes yeah. Well, this is because it doesn't, but that doesn't sound like bronchitis. That sounds like a Improv, but I mean don't you think you could in my head what I picture as he coughed his ear out, but that's probably stupid, but it's like a package like I dunno, but anyway he coughed himself so even is able to avoid combat through coughing, which is great got a job at a hospital for the deaf they're. Here

at Marianne Bush, with whom he experienced quote the most wondrous human pleasure all out fucking for fusion. secure and safe and our very own bed, and quote God: God bless him. While they were her name is perfect. Bush David. They were married April, Fourteenth nineteen, forty five, so world war. Two ended there was a major need for clinical psychologists, so the government for funding poured in which allowed to to enroll in the doctoral program at Berkeley, so TIM got his ph dot d and his masters from Washington State, and then he began publishing papers and he also got his wife pregnant from so much fucking profusion and then on September 25th, one thousand nine hundred and forty seven Marianne gave birth to their first child Susan October 19th, one thousand nine hundred and forty nine. They added a son named Jack, Well, family, cooking, right yup! This sounds like it just sounds like a wonderful, wonderful scenery.

So merry analyse extremely disturbed by the threat of nuclear war. She lived in constant fear, so a nineteen. Fifty two went him. Not a research grant, he moved the family to Spain there he would write papers. and hopefully Marianne would feel a little less stressed. Then Yet why is there not going to is nuclear war not going to harm Spain like how dumb is it's Mary. Well, I mean it's one of those things. You know it's like. I don't you know it's like. I mean it's like putting a blanket over a canary cage if they believe it. Why break it? Why shatter it? no okay, so you're, comparing a grown woman to a canary I'm comparing illusion that is gender and species lists are good, Lord, so

yeah when, when they returned from Spain to the states, TIM was much more motivated than he was before. He wanted to make a name for himself got to work on his first book, but TIM had some real tote in it. When it came to alcohol, TIM drank heavily he also began an affair with a married co worker named Mary Chiappa, which is oh, my god. How hard was that one Mary Mary. What does know Mary Mary Mary here she's got so I know, but Marian may still Marian Mountain still. I thought he was going out of there. You don't have it like another started. A chasm August. I will again in garrison. Well it's around the nose. I mean that with me I'd I would take a real, even if it was Gary at this point I feel, like I have some sort of intellectual property over that. Although it might be easier because you might just be like you know, I had a great time. Fucking married the other night and married like yeah, and then you're like,

yeah- meant yeah no like when you're going to confront as you like. I love you Mary Anne DE. I want to have some coconut like what Mary, so so so this the affair that Harry I found out about with Mary drove her mad TIM encourage her to play the field, then, on October, twenty first nineteen, fifty five the night before terms, Thirty fifth birthday, TIM and Marianne had some martinis and went to a dinner party when they came back Mary was there to say happy birthday TIM, which upset variant greatly. The next day TIM woke up. Why I didn't much but our deal was but the next day teamwork got us very territory. The next stage him woke up smelled fumes went down your eyes where he found Marianne, what had behind the wheel of their running car so So she really she was actually really upset. She was very from

by all readings very depressed, and he was not very sensitive in any way to any of that. You that is our garlic. Swine Eleanor stood merits than there are of arrogance, and he also went right back to work the next week. So clear, Well, you know what you gotta get back on the horse, hurry up how's the week at so TIM. A great father? He did last one. asked one of the marriage is anyway, so don't know how to raise the kids on his own, so he moved Mary and not long after Marianne's death, He and Mary were married. you're a year later, wow oh. So he was never really into he was never really under the first on all that much at the end, there you'll see there's a pattern with similar in love. There is, I think, those loaded a little bit more to it than just

the other Mary was there and she got upset like he might have been. You know, yeah Robinson. I think he definitely was. I mean she. You know she was like depressed and he was like. Hey play the field. You know she was like cool thanks, honey, that's awesome Is it get out there there's a lot of single guys out there Oh. They were married under a year later and then by May of nineteen, fifty seven, his new marriage with me, it was already on shaky ground and see TIM had gotten all of his fucking by fusion out of his system. He was still sleeping around on his new second wife so that same year, Timp, yes, yes, he cheats, at the sheets. He cheats, he's a cheater. You know you gotta know that going in if you're cheating with a guy and he Mary's marries, he's married and then, and then you become the new wife odds, are he's going to cheat on you too. I agree with that and then I also never understand why people get married with their like

I just just never I never guy just like. Why do it? You don't understand. I mean I don't recently, I lived in never ending fear of the man who lives in the clouds and judges every one of our actions with his big long gray beard. But still I dont get We went together to be like every share. Never I love you so much they'd be like hey. What's up or or just you know, you could talk about at the time go look. I would like to do an open, so I like to play baseball by myself. You know what I'm saying look. I grew up just outside of the eating DORA in Alabama and I'm air it for you. So it came to our land, which, considering how is first marriage ended, was a huge success. Now TIM it didn't die the better upgrade, so TIM got his kids. He headed back to Spain on a boat with a stewardess that he'd met, but she left him soon. After the arrival pass

we, because he got horribly ill with an unknown disease that left him swollen and covered in blisters, and he called it yeah. It was coming for sure he recovered, but he felt quote boredom black depressions flashes of frantic restless. Finally, he was lonely on Christmas Eve. When he met quote a runaway prostitute from Valencia and Unquote took her home quote, by New year's. I had the clap and quote, and yes, his kids were still with him. So what yep a good dad I just got the clap is a thing we shouldn't write about it. If we get it wishes. Probably just let me know when I have it: I've been bombed walkin around. I expect it of the club for Michael

Will you put a sandwich board on and he goes round that, just as I've got the so bad ringing a bell? Would I lie that spring can put the children to ITALY very bumped into an old graduate school classmate named Frank Baron who had changed TIM's life, Frank told him. How quote his research had led him to Mexico where he had interviewed a psychiatrist who had been producing visions and trances using the so called magic mushrooms, and quote. He also introduced him to David Mcclelland. The director of the center of Personality research at Harvard Mcclellan decided that TIM was quote just what we needed shake things up at Harvard and Import hired him and boy. Was he right? So he goes to Harvard net. Harvard TIM begins hanging out with Dick Albert now. Dick was a well liked. Charming psych teach her with a nice pad. He had a Mercedes, a motorbike.

And he had a Cessna plane that he was learning to fly and he was already a success at twenty seven. So, plane is when you know you're like crushing it. like the US. No I'm a video of other things. Batman has its. Happily, I can get the bag, it got. The guy at the bank, needs have done a lot of animal rights for watching your yes, so in nineteen sixty TIM went to Mexico now on the trip he kept. Thinking back to his conversation with Frank Baron in those magical mushrooms at this point, TIM is a heavy drinker heavy smoker you'd never tried drugs quote. I was a middle aged out one agency. He is he's, like thirty, eight ish, thirty, eight, the fought with Lett thirty, eight forty somewhere around there, and so he at this point TIM was a heavy drinker smoker, but he'd never tried. I quote. I was a middle aged man caught in the middle age process of dying, my joy in life, my central openness, my creativity, we're all sliding down hill end quote, so we went to SAM

a job, he met a woman named crazy Wanna who had the mushrooms. Well, that right there. This is going to be You started the process if crazy, if craze This is the beginning, your name this yet This is what it could also be like the fact that is named tiny. She could be I she could be totally com, ok, I mean she has access to the great anything. So so she has the mushrooms TIM get so many described. The smell is quote for stamp, crumbling logs and New England basement and quote which, if, that's super accurate, a safe will watch me, go fucking, nothing front of you, now, mushrooms or so a cyber cuban nieces to botanists have been around for a while the Aztecs called them tea or not a cattle or

should the gods, but they were mostly unknown in western culture until nineteen fifty five, when Life magazine sent our Gordon Watson and Gordon with a guide to the mix guide to the mountains to find and eat the market. How how an example of just how oblivious the white man is an uncaring and I'm curious that the indigenous People are doing mushrooms for that long and you don't find out about it until nineteen fucking fifty five. Actually it's Jesus Christ, it's the

worse than you asked someone when you take over is what kind of drugs do it hit? It really does it. It does speak to completely like the way that you know our western culture does shit like we're we're just but not foot. We don't give a fuck about nature, whereas you have played like by people who, actually you know, want to preserve things and feel like their part of the system, so again eat mushrooms, everyone, but I, but so so they so they go to the next echo mountains. They find them. I shoes and they trip there balls off and your point. They were the first white men to ever do so so nineteen, fifty five four shut, the Fuk up. How is that possible? One thousand nine hundred and fifty five, if I discovered, if I was one of the people, discovered wrong work. If I was one of the people who came to America. Early on, I would have found mushrooms really early. I see, but you have to be kicked. You can't just be eating wild mushrooms. You can't like.

I did then Florida with my cousin. We well tripped out with David. Let me tell you if you know which wants to pay as someone who knows nothing about anything, don't hear from high of mushrooms. They vary you have to go as you have to go as someone who knows cuz, you keep bet. You say you didn't get to America, you get to America, you meet some indigenous people, you go. So what are you guys holding for you guys got that's the first question you should ask. is there a merry holder or how are you guys surviving? First, quays? Are I hold hair with hairy. Holding around here. Has anyone seen Harry Holden Harry Holden, anyone getting eyes on Harry Holden, so so he gets the mushrooms right and he and a fuga a few eager friends first eat the shrooms. They decide that two people will stay sober one because she was pregnant and the other big. It was a man known as whiskers, who was prone to fits of nervous laughter so that in

She didn't want to take whiskers right now. Ok, so here I just want to put a suggestion there can we follow whiskers. For the rest, I have really tough news, but let's let the process break out, but if, if you don't hear from which is again just know that you had a great moment with him. Jesus Christ, the guy's, need whiskers now that story follows whiskers, sorry, buddy, so for Lily, I made the trip it began with laughter of his own, not whiskers, laughter but laughter, is on lots of it. Soon, after the euphoria TIM told the sober parties quote, you may have six psychotic nuts on your and I think you should send the kids downtown to the movies and made to get her out of here and for God's sakes, keep an eye on us, and yet his kids were still with a car, so timid later save the trip quote. It was the classic visionary voyage and I came back a changed man. You are never the same after you ve had a veil drawn and click. Ok,

So let let's just stop right there and say that is one percent true, if you have never done mushrooms I see the world the same way as people who have the. I also think taking something like that when there is very few people to tell you what it is so crazy, you know so we re said of the trip that he learn more about the mind in those four hours than he did in the entire time in school. So TIM now knew what he wanted to do. He wanted people to feel this freedom that he had felt so he made such a compelling mushroom, mushroom, mushroom project

here is so Mcclelland Media Mcclelland asked him to write a proposal, so TIM did. The purpose was to quote, determine the conditions under which so aside and can be used to broaden and deepen human experience which persons have benefited by the drug and in which direction and the methods of making the beneficial effects durable and recoverable without subsequent exposure to So that's a mission statement for saying I want to let everybody trip. You know this. Is I've done that's a mission at. When I wrote to my mother when she found it had taken measures as mother, you don't understand I tried to determine the conditions under which Psilocybin I should have said that to my mom when she found my bag of mushrooms, but I just said that: that's that's something from school. I thought they looked cool and she bought that none of them, and now TIM was not the first professor interested in

turning his consciousness and eighty nine. These William James, explained why you love nitric oxide, saying quote it stimulated the mystical consciousness and to an extraordinary degree but Mcclelland, which is true too Mcclellan case yeah, it's not it's not it's not nearly the same thing, so Mcclellan gave them the ok with a three year. Research project now TIM's plan years to three years to do mushroom three years, three years to work to find out the effects of mushrooms, but yes yeah, okay, lemme, lemme, lemme, lemme, lemme change. What you just said, I'm gonna change what you just said a little bit three years to do actually hearing it back, you're right they get a they get through here: Mushroom research project contract, We suicide three years through your deal. Truth so Tibbs plan was to prick What are you guys doing?

The effects of war, intense war on the human mind and how it really the people. What are you guys were drawn at hand Okay have. You ever had an orange. It's the best know what yeah

I be okay, I'm going to go back to my lab cause. You guys are a little rehab, the lab, so in order to procure the suicide and I he had to go to the he had to send a letter to the sand US labs. In Switzerland, Sir TIM writes his fancy letter on Harvard Stationery and he started boat to suit what he assumed to be a lengthy process. They immediately sent back a big bottle of synthesize silicide and that read quote so assignment research, material caution, federal law prohibits distributing without scripture could and inside were tiny little pink pills, the kind of look like little Peppino pills right then this will some sweats your this was. It was processed in Switzerland. Yacht was synthesize and citizens with a society in which is that active ingredient in Russia,

It took suicide then, and then they created a pharmaceutical to correct. Yes, it's quite a time in american history, and so when did finally join TIM, it was time for him to have a taste of Dick Alpert. He had missed the First Mexico trip almost crashing his Cessna on the way down. So on the night of the biggest snowstorm of the year. Dick six pills and went deep, he saw himself from the outside. In six I mean it's synthesize, the assignment, so I don't even really know it it's hard for me to mentally know, but at the sixers I mean it's a lot who goes in you hook up and I'm going to start doing this. drug. How about you? Never you! Never economic! You know what I always say about drugs. You can always take more okay, so so he takes six and he goes deep. He saw himself from the outside in various incarnations, all the jobs that he could have had.

He thought he lost his body. He looked down to reassure himself only to find there was no body. So when he finally comes out he says he says he felt at peace with himself like he never had before a quote. Until that moment, I was trying to be a good boy, looking at myself through other people's eyes that night. For the first time I felt good inside it was okay to be me and quo and a dick was on such a rush that he raced over to his parents. I still lived in the city to shovel snow out of the driveway at five. Am his father comes out pissed and he's like go to bed, you idiot, that's a quote and he shouted and Dick just smiled, shoveled and told his mother that he loved her. So much exactly that's exactly what mushroom desires that you describe it to a t, guys like what the fuck are you on you're, like I love you, man and I love your energy. I'm going to be done with don't snow in a year, I'm snore it back. Stop doing so

for the for the Harvard sessions. Leary made sure that everything was just right. He especially prepared supportive settings. He thought set and setting was key. He preached that always the set and setting has to be right. He would pass out the pills, then he would walk around a chicken on people make sure they were ok. He would shoo away his kids. Yes, his kids are still with him and and round hanging out to get at a while. What else are they going to do? The the their mom kill them and he ruins replacement mother isn't there, but so so worried about the session start going around Harvard and everybody wants in, which makes so much sense. If you heard a village yeah I mean so I mean I I yeah so undergrads were forbidden from partaking. That was a rule, so they started with a group of TIM and

It would take it as well for the session and then, when they were done, TIM would request a description of their trip like what did you expect? How did it live up to your expectations and ninety five percent of the one hundred and sixty seven participants said it improved their lives for the better many similar takeaways. They felt their barriers, the dropdown. They felt a welcome sense of oneness stuff like that, but at this time TIM also starts using the pills for social gatherings and home with his friends and other professors he's getting like. He can get limitless supplies of these pretty much because eventually, there's a lab, that's a lot closer, and so they look at a Sandoz lab. So they can just like drive there it's just they could just get as much. They want. It's basically they're writing their own scripts for for silicide, and I, but I dunno, if you've ever done, mushrooms for like five days in a row, but they have it has less effect. It really starts to Peter out. If you keep doing yes well, you know

and to go against my earlier recommendation. There is the other phrase which is you can always take more and so the counterpoint to myself there. Ah nineteen sixty one TIM and Dick began working with the Concord State prison to see what Simon would do to recidivism rates yeah. Oh my god. This is what they should be doing. I give all the prisoners mushrooms. So so the prisons, Dr Madison President, was opposed to him as prisoners. The first black psychiatrist you'd ever met to come over with his wife some time and have some and president did have some now president said quote: when I close my eyes, I travel and quote, and that David. That is why it's called the trip or tripping because of when he said that is really so so this is, this is the warden produced is more like a prison psychiatrists like in house. and but he has, but he has given

full of whether or not they're going to take it the prison cycle. He has control over whether Dick and TIM can come into the prison and get he's he's. Basically, like saying no. I don't think this is a good idea once its proposed and so TIM's like well, you know why? Don't you try it and see if you think it's a good idea, so he the guy, takes He says that he's like holy shit and then literally the next week he's like I let me help you pick some of the volunteers for this experiment so he's like, turned around immediately but yeah. He came up with why you call a trip. So then, on March, twenty seventh nineteen sixty one it starts TIM gives twenty milligrams of suicide to three different prisoners. Tim himself took sixteen God. You know little for the doctor. and that it didn't do much until they're in the room and it's awkward and TIM opens up, and he says that he's afraid of them and then the prisoners admit that they felt the same way. About TIM.

And then they all start there. Then they have a much better time and then so they repeat the experiment and it was not without some problems like in some sessions harden while in some sessions hardened criminals would end up like blubbering wrecks Or releasing emotions, they never knew they had and like seeing other prisoners in positions, they never thought they'd see them like harden guys. There were some setbacks like when this one bankrobber became convinced that they'd, given him truth serum to force him to admit to his other unknown crimes, but what I actually eventually after he tried as after he tried to kill one of the students they talked him down, calmed him down, convinced them that they'd even if truth, serum and the dude chilled out and yeah, but we've all been there on a shrimp trip. As I am That is why, with the US that often tried to kill people, because they don't know about my thought crimes without question. yeah. I think I'm gonna be out of water that your nineties

Two years later, when TIM publishes his findings from the Concord prison experiment, he said that seventy three percent of the group had been released were still out, so that is however However, report years later said, that quote: Leary Larry's report of a dramatic treatment effect was the result of a misleading use of the, data, whatever his motivations, Leary misleading report about the success of the Concord, prison experiment serve as an object lesson in what not to repeat so. Okay, so I'm still going to go to the seventy three percent. You know why. Cuz that that's sentence, you said If a complicated and long- and I prefer the seventy three America and you're allowed to believe that facts there bro you're, welcome and yeah and why the fuck god it's called freedom. It was negligible and there was like there was like there. There wasn't a difference, but they said it was pretty negligee.

Well, but, and they also said that, like if you're going to check up on someone on the outside after prison or Alba hold on hold, ok, okay, there you go a little Bentley when you abandon someone calls up yeah go ahead, okay, so so yeah. So so, essentially like the numbers, the numbers he reported were obviously inflated, but there was also- and you know it is hard to calculate, because if you do an experiment like that you're going to have more, care towards someone on the outside and that potentially affects the recidivism as well. I'm sure it's hard to tell but anyways. I shall think a great idea and much better than just you know he also the empire. you didn't let the environment isn't great, either because you're in a prison. So it's kind of a dark place. First, I'm right.

it seems I was on death. Oh that's cool and I heard, and it was for how great we were laughing Sal about this. Your last meal you're, like I just want a big bowl of magic, mushrooms. Oh, my god, I want to go out tripping out of my fucking mind yeah, why not so I just I just can't get out of my head, like they're tripping in a prison, I mean he tried to do what he could to make it like comforting, but yeah you're dealing with cell walls mean so it's kind of women in here yeah, that's, not it great among their own people, not recommend, well, ok, so to counter that in they did the good Friday experiment where they gave suicide and two thirty seminary students to see if the suicide and could add to a quote authentic religious experience. So and they all killed each other so so would the setting with the light

stained glass windows, the figurines, all that religious stuff with that influence the trip and it started out. Okay and it went pretty well- and there were some breakthroughs until one subject to and ran down Commonwealth Avenue, yelling that it was the dawn of the messianic age and a thousand years of peace were coming. He was like shouting at strangers, so they grabbed him and then they called him now more than I shouted thorazine everybody's happy, but others felt impacted by the setting as well. There is

if there's one guy who has reading about who wasn't sure if he wanted to become a reverend or not. But after that experience he was like. I am one hundred percent and he's still a reverent to this day, and but it wasn't all work anything but write like I was saying before TIM and Dick had these magic pills and the people are starting to talk a lot based on what you've described so far. It really isn't work at all. It's if you're going to different places and tripping with the full well that, but but he is doing he is doing well the part of the reason that he would take the pills like in the prison. He said

was because he didn't want them to think he was drugging. He wanted to be like you can trust rushed I get at, but I also want to say that that is also super in putting these, although I was not here, he was already is also trying to help these. He definitely is trying to see what this does to people's consciousness. Does this alleviate their stress, and you know like us, the before a lot of people are saying that so yes, but he is for sure, on the other side it outside of their he's handing out like TIC. Tacs me is going nuts right, like he's having parties and his yeah, so so so timid that kept the magic pills right as the parties are just getting kind of crazy, like professors are coming. However? Famous people like Maynard Ferguson, the jazz trumpeter Allen, Ginsberg Jack, Kerouac they're coming over and they're. You know they're tripping and the core group, of people who were kind of surrounding Leary at Harvard they kind of form this bond in this group. So when the summer roles around, they all thought that they would just had to Mexico.

oh and bring along a new experimental substance called LSD, which they also we're getting from the Sandoz lap say they have outside. Yes, they would just what's going on, what's going on with the guys making those drugs what's going on in that Well, what's the party like well okay, so so, Ray and Dick had learned of Alice these effect when it was given to them by this british researcher, but TIM was hesitant to try them at first now. They already felt like they were kind of under pressure at the school cuz they're kind of watching them, and they know that Harvard's not happy plus Ios Dior, had a bad reputation as it was used.

The CIA and the CIA program, the Mk Ultra Project, but that's another dollar for another day David, but TIM tried LSD for the first time and after it he didn't speak up. He didn't speak for five days, so he takes out with. He doesn't speak for five days, but then his stuff as soon as he starts speaking, he gives it the green light and he is, I guess we should be using this now acid David. Let's talk about acid okay, yes, acid or one lysergic acid dye, had been around for a while over decade earlier in nineteen thirty, six, a young lab tech named Albert Hoffman, first synthesized lsd. While he was working at Sanders, there's that image gap oh, he wants it, send us and what he's doing as he studying awry fungus called air got which could cause convulsions them. Fever hallucinations, kill thousands of people wiping out whole towns over history. There's time

Have examples of it we've? Actually, we've actually discussed it previously on this podcast. What did we discuss it? That is in reference to yes, so it im up during the match? I had here to Norway, a lot of the witches of Norway were actually just people who are poisoned by that, and then they started gibbering and talking of crazy stuff that people like Welsh and its likeness. That person just had a little poison and it would vary, it would vary. I was reading. It would very, unlike some people, would have like really bad convulsions, but then other they would go to towns and, like people just be naked and dancing and be like. Oh my god, yes it's. What I did was all over the place, sometimes you living at least liar these eight hours by Aragon, all that stuff, so yet so so basis, so he's working on that right, office right, tripping stuff. So naturally Albert made a few different compounds and he made a few differently search acid compounds and honest twenty fifth and final attempt he had made, alas de twenty five, but nobody cared

So it sat on a shelf for five years. Yet nobody gives a shit. What does that mean? Nobody cares and nobody tried it it just he just finished. It means that yeah, it's actually means he finished it and there is actually no real clinical use for it. That was known. I mean he didn't really know what he was making at the time necessary lay like you're, not like he's. I like coming up with this and then it you know what I mean like yeah, yeah and It was not around me there's a planetary himself. Let it there's no planetary, that's exactly right, but he believes in it right. So on a hunch she's, like I'm on a study again

well, he's he's working with it in the lab. A little he's usually very tidy, but he gets a drop around twenty micrograms or on his skin and he thought he felt something, but he wasn't sure right like he was like he felt weird, but he wasn't sure, but then he's like thinking about it he's like. I think it's from the LS these. So on April nineteenth nineteen, forty three at four twenty p m. He asked his assistant to watch him ingest LSD, so he dilutes two hundred and fifty micrograms of crystal in ten cc's of water. and he notices that its tasteless quote tasteless at five p m. Here's an update and his notes quote: beginning dizziness, feeling of anxiety, visual distortions, symptoms of paralysis, desire to laugh, end quote, and that is the lack of the journal entries Sadly, there are one time as I was on acid in eyes, dressed up in the school paper dolls and there isn't it.

In the school paper. Enters was like you're on acid right now, come over to my house and write a story, and then he sits me in front of his computer. I start writing and I get about a paragraph and he's like this, like that yeah exactly. It's never going to be like that. So that's a good idea for like ten minutes yeah so he's like you've. I take copious notes and then, like his last thing, is like I have a desire to laugh burn the notebook burn, the notes last word is why all anyone owes so he so he's the first person ever take Ls D, but his day is just beginning. So he suddenly said this is the guy who discovered a new world. It is the heat it's the wrong, the wrong application of the term to to Columbus. This guy discovered a new he and uninhabited too. So

so. He Russia's out he's like I gotta go. He leaves he rushes to get home. His very freaked out is a sit assistant is following him and he gets on his bike and what happens next? As a bike cried for the ages David, he sees quote kaleidoscopic, fantastic images, surged in on me, alternating, very gated, opening and closing themselves in circles and spirals exploding in colored fountains rearranging hybrid hybridizing themselves in constant flux and quote so when he gets home his assistance with em Albert is one hundred percent he's dying. He he is. just trying to calm him down, does not work quote a demon had invaded me had taken possession of my body, mind and soul. I jumped and screamed trying to free myself from him, but then sank down again and lay helpless on the sofa. The substance which I had wanted to experiment had vanquished me. Yes, I've had this trip to LA la la that's one of the ones, but this

but this would so it's the first guy ever so it's just like. Like other things, no, like someone like hey man, you haven't a bad trip someone's like no, you are dying. You are absolutely dying near died. You asked another. It's having to you like what this is. He took it so I Like I killed myself, so the assistant calls a doctor. The doctor goes next door. He gets Albert two liters of milk that Albert crushed, he just pounds milk on acid and then the next morning. After all, this Albert woke up and while he felt physically tired, he felt alert and his breakfast for some reason: tasted better and the colors twinkled more as he, but he was still tripping, and that David is also why April nineteenth is international Bike Day for Albert Hoffman's Bike ride wait! What April nineteenth day he took the trip bike ride,

is the international big day because of his wild in the government. Sanction that the United States government is as efficient as they said, we had a hard time getting them, they sanctioned ever. I I I do not think it's the American. I don't think it's sanctioned here it's worldwide, but you can celebrate it in any way. two Tuesday. I know Lindsey Graham, is still trying to get that past year as big a big proponent that for awhile, yeah and so Hoffman's discovery held much in store for leery, right, TIM and Dick started. The internet the federal german of internal freedom or I ef I asked or as I'd like to say, if ass an they started a new research facility. It would be a thirty six room. are we in a hotel in zero ought to nail Mexico? Oh my god fight, but I'm the one that's were women

go. I wonder, is it still there you're going to have a tough time, see hundreds of people applied. Thirty six were chosen as guests in here, they could get away with all the stress, all the stress from Harvard and they could take their psychedelics in peace now just very quickly. The term psychedelic comes from the greek psyche, Delux translated to mind manifesting fright, but this hotel is fully isolated and it felt like it was. You know it felt like research, but it was also total madness. You've got waves of hippies showing up trying to get in the mix. People are doing drugs having sex going to the beach having sex, openly smoking, weed he'd having more sex and yes, Dave. To answer your question. His kids were still with him right now, but can I ask you another question: is there he sucks? I didn't see any of that, but I wouldn't surprise me- I don't know sorry so much sex, yes, know that I'm looking back a lot of

tremendous amount. I used to I used to go to an ass eating hotel there and that the top floor. I'm sorry, but I'm so sorry just like they're, just running a clinic at this hotel. and the federales take notice right in the I want Myzmanim out, as did the newspapers there's a headline in a newspaper when David says Quote: Harvard Drug Orgy blamed for decomposing body, which was not through you know about that happen. Is I mean also that's like all. They knew that they wanted them believe. So they see that headline in there are like you know what we should try. We should go, we should go, should we go, let's go, and so they leave no, I wouldn't work. They do They don't see. I I stay even though there's a decomposing body or if it's just a lie. It's fake news, you're saying it's fake news to decompose. I doubt that a body was decomposing, but I don't think their orgy is to blame for it unless it was

Well how? How hard It was the peanut hardware they fucking. How hard would they fucking know? I know the penises. Are you taking? This penis is hard, that's a crazy thing to say for the conversation we're having I know that right. I know the penis is hard, okay and so well, and it's not partially. It's also partially that it's summer so they're just there for the summers they do have to go back to of a great white those bodies all the place you suddenly, Mexico have created your own fake news, her you may as well go away and would not get over the land, it's also hilarious thing to say, with the current stable, If you go ahead and so Harvard a monitor, Dick and TIM right. So visit of them, recreationally taking the drugs with students started to swirl faculty heard. The TIM, like outside of the research faculty, had heard that TIM had been telling some of his student assistance if they weren't willing to

the drug, maybe they weren't open to doing this line of work. After all, you know so he's right. This hence less but did so early in the process that do you no harm is like hey, don't enforce kids to take your pick pills dude, I won't say after the first, and that he trick that it's no longer early in the process. After after the bike ride, I'd, say we're past that that was the was the Stargate and but it's other stuff too also complicating the situation was Dick's decision to take pills with an undergrad and which again was not allowed so on February twentieth. Nineteen sixty two, the Harvard Crimson broke the story about all this: that kind of opened the debate on campus.

And then in in March, they called a meeting with Dick and term in a bunch of the faculty and the students were allowed to come and they just kept insisting that Ls D, you know, was pretty imperative that their work was justified and you know terms being charming the whole time Dick explained that when he gave it to this undergrad, he gave it to him as a free and not as a teacher, for some reason that wasn't good enough, but they them look man. state is my boy ran like we're here like a happy like now wasn't a cop, then I was a guy who's, the guy

I will do so so yeah, so that excuse that apply and the crimson article article accelerated the crisis, because local newspaper started writing about it and the New York Times picked up the article. So now most people in America have not heard of anything like this and now they're just reading about like kids too in hallucinogens it at Harvard, and no one was really sure what the hell TIM Leary was doing. Any more Aldous Huxley succinctly, put it by saying quote: I fond of TIM. But why? Oh? Why does he have to be such an ass and quote so? I spread the party around everyone now now this when America is just a party bummer, whereas some fin fun. I fuck it all up. Well good! Lord! I mean boy if, if

bummer is here I mean we ve become marks. Lord we deal snows do so. The outcome was the dick was fired and funding for the project was yanked, but TIM was now beginning to wonder what was the ceiling on all of this. He began to envision leading psychedelic revolution. That would be, you know, turn into some kind of spiritual awakening all by just taking Ls D and why While Dick had been fired, TIM technically was not he'd been neutered, but not fired. So one day, David Mcclelland, the man who hired Larry wait what why isn't tin tinfoil his dick as well Dicks fired because he broke the rule. Dick gave it to an undergrad. Tim is still like under contract at Harvard and they're like well, he didn't break any rules. he's. We don't agree with his project any longer, but we're not going to fire him. I mean you're right, like they could have easily just been like both you get outta here, but I mean did. Did they were taken like acid? At heart I mean it's just

raising the fact that it was like you yeah. I agree, there's a weird liner for them for whatever reason region it just went on ass, it fucking trip to Mexico, railways and then we're hammering they'll brown you can do and everyone in summer break from teachers. Let loose its superior marguerite, no hanging out you still hanging over those people from Harvard think that that would be, and I mean you right, wasn't grabs things stand at there's not only he doesn't take a lotta grad student with, and it's really more of like the the teachers and professors and stuff, but but when he is like a wedding, is there, I mean he's just changing the culture of Harvard Psychology Department so drastically, because these people, who have I spent their whole lives. Learning about this stuff are now like holy shit. Okay, so anyway, so and while Dick had been fired, TIM Technically was not

the neutered, but David Mcclellan, the guy who hired him one day went to a secretary and asked where TIM was, and she said, quote: he's gone, timid, had headed to L A in March and left the students with a reading list so may as well have been. That's my boy! Fuck! Yes, just draw the reading list and go alright man, I'm going to the other, shows. What do you think thirty bucks guess that good enough for you guys think it should be good enough if you read about again they're good second time around.

Cycle back we'll talk about it. When I come back from I'm, I'm gonna ride a dragon out to California now so TIM and I continue to focus on their research right. They felt like they just scratched the surface, they're looking for a new spot where they can go and kind of pick up the Mexico stuff, but they can't find anywhere. It will enter. Peggy Hitchcock Peggy had been in Mexico with them and had a nebulous love life with TIM over the years, but Peggy was also rich, real rich, as in her parents were the founders of Gulf Oil Rich right, so she just has tons of money and her family owns this property in upstate, New York called Millbrook the City of Millbrook, the house that they have. There is two twenty five hundred square feet: sixty four room mansion in a town of no more than seventeen hundred has green lawns, has horses and stables

this? Could not have been more perfect, so TIM rents it from her for one dollar a year, which is so so I'm not a huge real estate guy. That's a really good title: I'm not I'm not a real estate either, but I know now its ability to me it's the market. It depends what the markets doing. Is it a boy the bear? Is it a kid That's what I mean is that even a market there's so many questions. It's a lot of questions, and so Millbrook starts as an extension to the Mexico trip. Core group picked up right where they left off, but now they're even looser right, so they would all trip together once a week. They would trip outside of that too, but once a week they would all trip together and spouses were swapped by passing a dish at dinner. Tim slept with most of the women No broken whoever he was dating, would sleep with the man or the men would sleep with the men or the women with the women or everybody together, whatever sexual fluidity, on every level right and okay you're? I can tell you're into it because one of your hands dropped out of frame and

the accusation. It's and it's a comment. It's fine. I don't mind you doing this, I'm stuck. I don't mind you doing that. I'm sexing, I don't mind you doing that. So, okay, so they're running Millbrook, you have a question or just want to show me the other hand, okay, to destroy the pressure you're, doing the arab artists and philosophers from all around come over there to trip they want to study. They seek breakthroughs at Millbrook. Had many animals, their dogs, cats aardvarks. They eventually got a monkey Wright who was eventually allowed to pretty much do whatever he wanted and may be drowned, but either way was he was he dosing was the monkey Dave. I swear to God. I would if I had a bad. I would bet that the monkey had done acid hundred percent would be the end, and I will end our sleep. I would put it like that. You give me that some of those the arm Adele partner dealers, little house, gave me

yeah, I mean a lot of those animals, yet none of like Madeira just gets on a bike. It was an art, but still it s fun so, but still they go remains right. They want to change the world. They want to create a utopia and, of course, have sex which they're doing when they get bored. They would try to ask later change up the experiments they were doing again. They are still perceiving this, like clinically inspect its becoming so weird, but they are still like we're discovering something we're doing stuff. You know, yeah, no, no they're, they're, saying that, but it's just a it's just a FUCK party withdrew at some point. It would be nice to get a microscope involved in some of the study, so they start to change. It operates at that. Two on Sunday nights, they will pick two random names out of a hat, and then those two people will go off to the meditation house aka the bowling alley for a week alone. there you will form a bond with this other person. You'll take tons of ass said you probably have a lot of sex and but you I bet they'll, leave like food out front,

You are literally not allowed to leave if your name is picked out of that hat. Okay, I'm sorry, is it actually bowling only and had a bowling alley? It was like the place I just had. It wasn't like he wasn't like a Pickwick. Okay. So just yet that NASA, when the revolution comes, we have defined every house with a bowling alley and thus adorned with bergfors after we ball with their heads. We've got to do that, but that a good bit. yeah yeah? Oh my god, it's the class and then ok said so. Then they change it up even more where they go to the third floor. Experiment on the third floor experiments. Basically, if you wanted to get super freaky at night, you would just go to the third floor. There's multiple rooms and you just kind of walk around then on something, but if you go up there- and this is you're doing something this and

The furries were this, isn't exactly thank you very much and so TIM over the course of this his cycle. His lovers are cycling in and out, but when Nina VON Schell Bruges have visited Millbrook for the big July. Fourth party TIM was smitten. They took acid and within three days they were engaged, which is I think enough time, wow, that's actually really fast. No, I gotta say: that's really. Did you hear me three days they had three days. They're engaged get it at this. At the same time, they say that if you get engage understand with long. The two to five days span. Ninety eight percent of time that marriage works are exactly thank exactly. Thank you. Ok for a second, it sounded like you were, being crazed, exact, ok, but but you both get by about forty five due to the bowling alley, which is also on the other mistaken ass brown. Welcoming again repression is not a learning

today. So yes and engage sudden, they have their wedding Millbrook in nineteen sixty four. There is a large party after where they cut their wedding cake that was made by Dick, which had the Hindu Deities Shockey and see if a screwing on top and then regular cake We had that at our wedding we will again, and so, I need to go on their honeymoon. They go to India, they take acid a lot. They fought most of the time and they're divorced within a year, but er. So I guess not. That I didn't I didn't, and If you meet a lady in a bowling alley on acid and and get engaged her in three days, that's usually a fucking out of the park like that. So that means that this goes it out, just sounded so horrible, like they're, just he's just on asset, the whole time and she's just like she's just like this is kind of crazy she's like coming out of her Hayes.

So so yes a year so TIM's honeymoon, Oh wait! Sorry! So, while while TIM was gone, Dick was in charge of Millbrook and he's running it, but again he's like taken a lot of acid and at one point for three weeks straight dick and a group locked themselves in the meditation house, aka the bowling alley and they what we are over four hundred micrograms of L S DE every four hours. So that's twenty four hundred micrograms a day which is crazy. Considering an average happens next. These had around two hundred micrograms on it. That's so they're taking fucking cringed, oh much asset, but their tolerance is raised right. but that's still crazy to Dick would later say about it quote no one! ever believe what happened in that three weeks in that house, including us, and quotes

one highlight is amazing that someone is like you know we should do. We should take a shit load of this stuff in a very small time, you're like I was like yeah you're, like they're, like Jeff Bezos with money, they nobody hasn't been shit, really a major have tons of it. So they're, just like: let's go but yeah as mean obviously like there is very little study, and going out at this point. But I bet you in their head they're like we're, going to do an experiment where we're going to just take twenty four hundred micrograms and but at one of the highlights from this from the three weeks was Dick, was jumping out of the second story of the window. Thinking he could probably must be continued Yeah, that was my fault. I moved wash its no equality, not set of a window thinking. You can fly and breaks his leg, which is stereo typical, but it. But this is the first time I think someone tried to finance it. Maybe

yeah and then the thing like how you going to know if someone can fly or not. Unless someone tries it he's not in line with good I'll manage and if he started fly you be like now, my God, this David, you took a chance attempts honeymoon with Nina had ended and his with Dick was next? When TIM returned, he was upset upset at the state of Millbrook. We quote: went from a community of scholars and scientists to a playground for rowdy, Omni, sexually well now, but you know why it's because you've introduced us because you created it yeah it's! I it's totally a crazy gripe. I think so now dick by default had been raising TIM's, kids, Jack and Susan and by all accounts, was like a better parent than than he was

And yes, obviously his kids were still with him, yeah, oh one, dimension of court. You know what I'm just going to go on a limb here and say: they're all, probably really great. Well, Dick Dick seem to be doing a good job. Honestly like he was trying. I mean come on. I know it's crazy for sure. Yes for sure, I'm not now, but he's like crying so so anyway. So so TIM Tim comes back and he sees he and he accuses dick of trying to seduce his son Jack who's. Now fifteen Now up until this point, Dick openly admitted that he liked young men now more than anyone, but both he and Jack. When accused of this said that was for shore a bridge too far, but TIM truthfully always had an odd take on being gay, possibly stemming from ten being bisexual. Now Dick said, he felt that this accusation came from TIM being quote, upset about my homosexual seen unquote. So a nineteen sixty five dick left Milborough.

Which is just sad okay, there were a lot of variables going on there that the whole thing sounds like a bit of a shit show. Yes, I was Jack getting laid, who I honestly would my guess would be? Yes, yes, you know, but but everybody is like that, there's just was Jack was Jack. Doing Acid, yes, with tee: yes, he was the next day they were named. We know when he started when they were doing age he started doing, nay, would start. They honestly would give some of them when they were like in Mexico, would give their kids acid, small doses, but super early like. Super ok. So this is what I ve been this even time out what their we started a crystal adult preschool. How great would it?

Has it would look like latter day saints, but its ls? These that I, like, It's right, go! Learn about the Lord. Do you walk into Ella These go wait a minute. is this latter saints day yeah? That's right, drink a sacrament honey, what happened today, the ground Wouldn't that be nice, though, Devil and God, and a giant. We're all represented by a oneness of interconnectivity and we're led by a galactic jellyfish of positive love. God. That says LSD. Doesn't it? Oh, my god that is On my face CS, Dick leaves declares Millbrook at sixty five. One relationship and another begins on May. First, one thousand nine hundred and sixty five TIM meets former model turned beatnik rosemary Woodruff at an art expo and TIM told her that they had been quote married and several thousand forms and quote:

so her first night at Millbrook when she found it. Could you say this is a people that a white privilege, but this is a pretty good example was very fair to say so. Her first night at Millbrook term in her take assets. They sleep together in the medication I say Kay the boy and the next day they painted triangles on Millbrook House to signify a sexual union. So. yeah yeah. I mean I need one of the main aims of United tell anybody the first I mean you, a lady. You should put triangles outside. That's how you let the name But no one knows everyone that's right way. The door is barking in his barking. ok, one another, as you could see by the pork, knowing the jeweler look at Mr Johnson he's been fucking he's got triangles and allow Barbara really shut out of an eye What but I was wrangles, think about

brigade later that think about near Pip Pip. The troll, triangles up? No luck, they're getting divorced a rhombus, and that may be the first rhombus year comedy bro. I do anyway, I apologize for that. Last part. Tim decided that he those Mary. Now that there are a couple they need to take the kids on a trip together to the Yucatan. So in December, twenty second nineteen sixty five they're on their way to Mexico via Laredo at the Texas border. So as they approach TIM, like a good dad orders, all the grass out the windows so Jack answer to his, but Susan did not and when they pull up. What are the odds? The border agent is a mexican cop who was.

Bald in departing TIM and the Green, the gang from the hotel Catalina in sixty three, so the cop recognizes TIM and he's like you're not allowed to come into Mexico attends like know, I can watch you can but they're like we'll sort it out tomorrow, so he has to go back so in order to go back he's pulling a rare border. U turn so he goes into Mexico to back through America to make his? U turn, but suddenly he realizes oh shit, we're going through american customs so with great so quickly. Susan, his daughter takes the small amount of pot she had and she puts it in her panties right and Then they find that and they find a little like some other marijuana. They I like how you just say they find the the pot in the past don't need to go like this, just nothing you just by the way. That's I bet but you telling the story and then she puts in her panties and then you cut to and

while in the movie in the movie right, you just see the cop go. What about your panties and then you cut it out. I'd like you to bear on your left me like. I can't believe they found it Oh they're all arrested because they found it and there actual smuggling marijuana just she's a singer. She because It was actually so they found some more to like Roseberry. add a little in like a kid like. So they just then it was all there was nothing. They found. My very small, I dont remember exactly how much it was, but I think it is like a half pounds, total, so modest unaddressed, so their charge with transporting smuggled marijuana, smuggling marijuana and a failure to pay the federal Marijuana tax, which was the? U S, act that taxed the sale of cannabis, which I tried to kind of figure out what it is and to me all I can say is it sounds like

kind of like the medical marijuana system we had for awhile, where, if you carried pot, you had to have some sort of you had to pay, you had to pay a fee in order to have some cannabis on you, but what's just a way to like make it double illegal? Yes right exactly so they get so they essentially get the they get all three of those charges so and the newspapers have a field day, because As you know, TIM is now obviously notes. On March, eleventh nineteen sixty six TIM pled not guilty. His defense was that he needed to smoke marijuana for his work and for his religion. So, at his trial, TIM called a hindu monk who conferred the TIM had quote been initiated in the banks of the Ganges into Admit, Golly Sect that used ganja as us.

criminal aid to meditation and quote so. That's actually, when I know that's my ask that just every game every time he is in a court room, it is pure comedy, and so it's just it's just like. It is just like how you would write a funny judge said so eventually the judge asked Rosemary simply what is this religion and rosemary said she didn't know, and the judge said quote you mean you, your your religion doesn't have a name yet and she said quote: we have yet to name it your honor and he was like ok can we just fucking work up to the name right now? It's about a feeling. It's about you know

maybe at one with the name and nature, and the names report can indeed a name. It's just make up one day. We don't have you wake up a name, but it's called rank. Ok, all right, but what someone's getting food feeding time, I'm waiting time TIM's case goes to the jury and within thirty minutes he's found guilty. He post bail. He appeals the case on the basis that the marijuana tax is a mere one. Attacks ACT is unconstitutional and eventually that case heads to these right court his way. So while he awaits the conclusion, the media begins reporting heavily on LSD. It becomes a thing now. It's the thing that politicians and law enforcement use to get promoted. Time quote an epidemic of acid heads, ten thousand students at U of California. I've tried, LSD life quote turmoil. Capsule one dose of LSD is enough to set off a mental riot, a vivid colors and insights or of terror in convulsions and

and there's even one anonymous animal there's wanted, understanding both its printed from a mother who says she stayed at Millbrook and admitted that she would put a little acid in her children's orange juice at breakfast and let them have a day of freaking out in the woods. Oh like yeah, that's. Dosing, your kids, without their knowledge, even if they're admit it, freaking out, I wanted to be like experiencing from a higher level. You know like when I'm gonna freak out for a couple hours well, I would give my kids a little bit and then they would go outside and scream trees. I carried it's it's it's terrible, but it's also just like man like

when I was a kid among my friends, my mother's friend, I didn't have a friend's mother at that time. My mother's friend, when I was a three gave me like sips, of spoonfuls of vodka. At like dinner, I got hammered and had to go to the hospital yeah. I disagree. Yo I drove out, I was trying to drive, but but yes, but imagine that one can handle your words tat now I mean if that's insane you should, as anybody who doesn't know, being dozed? Are should fear I am also especially its I've kids, we really shouldn't those kids letting lining their minds. We can make a monopoly in the mental on this one. I see you

a line somewhere? Let's draw a line somewhere, it's there and it's with dosing kids. So TIM is now a counterculture. Celebrity he's launched the new acid culture of the sixties and September nineteen. Sixty six TIM did a playboy interview that reads like a wild infomercial for acid quote in a carefully prepared, loving, LSD session, a women will inevitably have several hundred orgasms playboy several hundred Leary. Yes, several hundred and quote, he also claim that men could have twenty thousand orgasms. Another quote. The fact is that a study is still cure for homosexuality. We ve had many cases of long term homosexuals who under LSD discover that they are not only genitally budget. medically male, that they are basically attracted to females and quote obviously false and very gross statement, but the that the interview is totally insane, but that is obviously a quote where you're like holy shit like this is I mean, and that again stems in some bastardized way from what he experienced with Dick, where he just like.

It's it's very bizarre. You know, I don't really know so. I didn't hear anything after twenty thousand the way Jesus talk about the hydra. I mean talk about crushing a gatorade Why would you think that would you'd be the person who is having twenty thousand orgasms is going? Oh, my god, please stop or fuck. Oh shit fuck. Oh my god, no amount of cum on that account has happened. Oh god, I want to call ok. No. I want to watch tv. Oh God can I eat something. I'm coming! Oh fuck! I've got I'm choosing. Oh look, let's just play. Oh god I got to go to bed I'm coming again. Oh my god. I'm coming so hard holy shit fuck! Oh my god! Okay, look! Look! All I'm asking is for! Oh god look! I go to the DMV tomorrow holy shit. My license has expired. I'm coming, I gotta go to upcoming so hard. I just am fearing. If I have to oh

If I have to go in line, wait, oh shit! If I have to go online and wait that long holy shit, that's good, I'm going to who knows what's going to holy fuck, I don't. Oh my god shit. I don't think I could outsmart could take a picture. Oh coming, ha ha ha think your life is hell. It's like we take ashes would stick to. his certainly we can tales and it will do what it does is hails from the crypt pot plot line. Ok, so the trouble at Millbrook Continuous one night, rosemary, timid, just smokey empty. The cops come and they're led by lunatic G, Gordon Liddy, now Liddy says quote words was that at Larry's layer the panties were dropping as fast as the acid and club which to me doesn't sound like it. Is he saying that, like that, waiting on saying that as yet again itself in

Gee Garden Ways world women wanting to fuck isn't really bad. The N G, Gordon yes, yes, yes, I think that's a fair assessment of what he's saying is up, but you know it's like the dragnet cop heads are like you shouldn't be fucking that tokens for making babies if they came on, the team was having twenty thousand orgasms they'd have been like Jesus Christ. This is our nightmare. Don't stay I know what he's not in possession of. It's no! So there I did when they they bus then, and they find that rosemary has some we'd in her bedroom until it turns out to be PETE Moss, but his guys, keep coming and hold on a bag language pages found it like on a windowsill or something, and they were all freaking out there like no way. I don't even know why I brought that she was walking through the forest she's on fucking acid. She sees peat MOSS.

She picks it up. She walked around with it for nine hours and then she that house was full of flowers that were once important. without sweat, so sober actually they do find some weird and they they are a day and by the way when they showed up, they had just smoked DMT. I don't have I mentioned that one while yet so they just smoked MT, so they find the. I keep coming back and eventually they do find Wade and TIM's arrested. Two others are arrested, but that's not the last that we're going to hear of our man G Gordon Dave anyway. In May TIM was called to the Senate. Hearing on narcotics, the social change that LSD had brought was undeniable and TIM was at the helm. Now he's sitting in front of the Senate panel now TIM looks like while he looks like a guy who has been taking acid all the time who had to put on a suit, and he looks just a little crazy. He admitted to taking acid over three thousand.

Times and when asked to describe the effects of L S DE he said quote you might say I was sitting there and I began to dissolve every cell in my body began to break down. I was afraid I would become a puddle on the floor. Then I saw huge serpent coming up and the serpent swallowed me. I went into the serpents stomach and later I was excreted and I exploded end quote so that's in front of a Senate panel. We would be the great if I could go on satellite tv.

That sounds like a tough hearing I would be like. I think this is an MTV and I'm on acid. So so TED Kennedy begins. The badger TIM and TIM eventually caves, and he starts saying stuff. Like quote, I feel constructive legislate. Constructive legislation is obviously very badly needed and quote and he's making sure that they're making sure he's heard him correctly. A senator says quote: don't you feel LSD should be put under some restriction as to it's sale. It's possession and it's use, Leary quote definitely, and so everyone's kind of like that seems a little weird for this guy and rosemary is watching from her jail cell where she was put for not testifying against him at his last trial, and she said quote: he was being berated by TED Kennedy. I mean lambasted. I kept waiting for him to say something about our religion, nothing, not a word and quote so. What whilst she she removed from before, like he's like, we have a religion which they kind of do

I kind of believe, but he just in front of the Senate. He just totally folds. He caves he's just not the guy who is like hey. I did a bunch of research on this and there's tons of breakthroughs, and You know these. What you're seeing is a culture of people who want to expand their minds because they're they're so bored by what the society off like he doesn't say. Anything like that he's like! No for sure you gotta be careful you to legislate it. You know he's just not pushing back it's a. U dont, even know why the hell he went to it honestly, like rainy, probably just for press, because the due to love press so anyway, so he's drawing more heat and soon after that he said quote. If you take the game of life seriously, if you take your nervous system seriously, if you take the energy process seriously, this isn't an event. You must turn on tune in and drop out and quote and everybody goes crazy. Everybody goes crazy, they can't figure, they just are like Keystone

drop at a school. The idea that Leary is telling people to drop out is so disturbing for the culture in America, but now TIM officially is associated with a slogan truly right, so it's parodied squirt told customers to quote turn onto flavor tune into Sparkle drop out of the cola right, Reverend Billy Graham had a sermon quote, turn on Christ's atoning the Bible and drop out a sin end quote, and in may my that is What's that mean mad magazine, psychedelic issue? They said quote two: in turn on and drop dead. End quote so on a November 11th, one thousand nine hundred and sixty seven TIM and Rosemary were married in Joshua Tree Samu, an Apache medicine man who was close. a shaman and veteran of thousands of pay. Eighty knights and quote, was there to read and perform the vows, but sadly, Samuel was way to fucked up to perform and he was the only one. Leary himself was on so much mescal and he was

other guests are dying from various drugs. All around rosemary later said quote. My wedding March was the symphony of retching and quote, and as they prepared to leave, SAM, who is finally kind of sobered up and he's able to do the vows near the car after the ceremony for them this. But you don't want the guy. doing your wedding say If you got the website it, it says, he's had a thousand peo DDT like this guy can handle life, but it still needs to do much to know him. I really not we ve got that.

We shame the ball so so, as ten Supreme Court case looms, he goes on a speaking tour Leary hits college campuses, doing wild performances, using variations of media entitled the death of the mind, attempting to bring the LSD a trip. Experience would cause an uproar, TIM Quote, political militants who sometimes denounced me for distracting young people from armed revolution and sometimes old people. Who would shout that I was the Antichrist a devil, a new Hitler seducing, the young

It was all good, theater and quote and so to at this point, TIM and Rosemary move into the brotherhood of eternal love ranch. This is a group of young hippies who smuggled and distributed a lot of the drugs for the sixties. They would hide weed and hollowed out surfboards. They would sneak hash from Afghanistan and VW bugs at the Newport pop festival. They were allowed to sell fruit juice. Instead, they decided to dose a thousand attendees with acid and soup. That's obviously not what they wanted at the festival, but think what a thousand yeah they're just they just were allowed to sell like fruits and juices, and they just they just put asset and a bunch of three fruit juice is also does people just about actually and also how they found out was a cop drank on and center they like twenty minutes over the loudspeaker, they just figured it like. Like I'm on acid, I'm on now the basically the by the way it's a good idea to marketing. So basically the brother, it took a lot of times. Big

how can one he was saying and they were kind of putting it into action. They loved ass it, but they loved him more, I mean maybe more, but they loved him and he kind of become their default guru. They also had made orange sunshine, which is the first real distributed eleven have so they kind of brought into the streets. Now, while at the ranch TIM got the Supreme Court's verdict, when news trucks rolled down the ranch, drive and asked him quote, how does it feel being free? End quote TIM realized. He was acquitted of the book her charge and he told reporters he was quote was high and happy for ourselves and the thousands of young people in prison for psychedelic crimes, end quote and then on the fly with zero heads up to anyone. Tim announced that he would quote run for the highest office in this state. End quote: Yes. Timothy Leary was now running governor against the awesome, Dude Ronald Reagan, so

during its just a polite announcement. I want people like followed. Him are like what the fuck is this. What is his plan like he's? The war can play the European Police Academy Slogan, just isn't too well, or is it because he had his image put on Zig zags for promotion, but he did feel like he needed a slogan, and so when they're spitballing slogans, Rosemary flippantly, said come together in May that year TIM was with John Lennon in New York for the bedding and when Lenin heard the slogan he wrote come together that day and handed it to Larry for the campaign. So let's also just put out there how much I hate the bed and the bet man out the burden of bedding is the worst. Let us a peak happy them. I fucking hate debates, it's it's! What what did you do to protest before twitter. the

we're going to change the world by getting into bed. I mean what about this. What about that? Have you ever done? A pizza inn, that's where I'm just gonna crush the pizzas. Until you figure out, Why do the shit out, but I'll be here so TIM gets more good news when the Millbrook Marijuana charge has dropped eventually, partially from lack of evidence, partially from the judge being sick of the defence tactic and bringing in religious person after religious person. The judge said if I see one more swami coming through that door, I'm gonna throw out the window and quote so. The case was thrown out like a Swami at a window. Now.

He's having a pretty good run, leering were well at. His luck is about to run up. On December twenty six nineteen sixty eight Timothy Larry was driving with his wife, Rosemary son Jack. When you made a wrong turn a curious cop pulled them over, and you know how these police just went to sea with broke it little slits joke the phrase. Curious caused a curious innocent little boy, cop, I picture of as an eight year old, a little half you know, I'm a profile I got. Can I ask you how TAT Larry is making money is? Well, he I mean he's making a lot of money at speaking. Events like he is I mean there's a number of ways: he's people are giving him money at Millbrook. They also started to kind of sell weekends where like when they didn't give people drugs, but they would be like come, have a tripped out experience

money for them was always an issue like they're. Always you know like when they're done at Millbrook, like they're, fifty grand in debt he's got legal bills, so money is totally an issue, but also he's granted a lot of favors for people because he's a celebrity so like where he goes. He pretty much lived like a king and eats for free and all that so say pulls him over the cops as he smells marijuana and he finds two joints mostly smoked. Now they were small, but the impact was large and they may have been planted. Obviously the weed was planted, but the weed joints might

when planted in the car right. So, but we don't know that's what TIM said right away he's like. Oh that wasn't in there that wasn't in there anyway. The felony was enough to avoid Thames run for governor, which is tough, but it would have a bigger impact. That's a felony yeah! Yes! Well, actually, maybe it might not have been then, but I I believe it I mean. Yet it's wouldn't think it might have been so so when the trial for the Laguna Beach arrests happened, TIM began to take the stand and even cross examine himself. Now the courtroom was packed hippies at this point, because he's so famous so much so that the judge said quote: if there is a humming session in here, there's going to be a lot of people, hominin jail and quote can also just say: the smell must have been horrible. I had patchouli was in the air pressure. We can do grandma fuck around her,

the amended use, if you told me, does not the jewelry every day. I would guess what about this next to them, but I think we ve got. You know, there's a new movement now and it seems pretty deodorant it. So, hopefully, we ve learned from our path I know we're not going to grow back or just asking for the spirits and the trials are so crazy because of Jack Larry Jack Leary kept spitting into the courtrooms carpeted floor. So much so that Judge Macmillan had to warn him Jack defended himself by saying he was wiping it into his pants. The judge replied quote he's the judge. The grudge replied quote upside the Headrick, he's missing his pants and quote their attorney argued the deck. in hand the judge ordered the bailiff to get Jack Kleenex, which Jack,

began to chew and made one of the lawyers said quote in the course of that trial. He must have eaten three boxes of Kleenex one time his dad went to stop him and slapped him right in the face right in the middle of the court and quote it's hard In this case was raised on ass, it truly is like it's very the kids. He did totally fucked damage. I mean it's crazy. oh by the way our son is faring so so words room, but dad. that literally no rules aren't like it's either. He doesn't have rules in such a way that he eats he eats. Like he's he's I mean he's he's just damaged. I mean it's just fuckin

he didn't, and I don't know if you've ever met somebody who has done too much acid, but I'm so young and shit. It's not grill. So even the strategy, the strategy is to make TIM looked like. He had no idea about the pot, but that didn't work. The jury find found all three of them guilty. Leary had the book tossed at him by the Reagan Judge TIM was sentenced to ten years and a ten thousand dollar fine there's a lot of like I'm, not sure. If the sentence was exorbitant. It was around that other places say it was like twenty years, but he he has, you know basically he's going to jail for so little. Two joints for ten years, but TIM David. This is also a time when they could put you in jail for life if they wanted, for really anything and put in jail for marijuana for pay. There are people in jail right now, marijuana for life, eight, eight, eighth of part jail for life. As you know this, so

strategy was to make it seem, like TIM, had no idea right already said that so he gets ten ten years. Ten thousand dollar fine, but TIM would not serve the ten years. His fate would be much much stranger because, on January twentieth, nineteen sixty nine Richard Nixon was sworn in as the thirty seventh president of the United States of America and that conclusion greatest. President David, I can't believe it's only it. Oh my god. Stay tuned for part two next week TIM and the gang figure it out. This is epic. I'm going to turn it a and.