Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine record breaker Raffaele Minichiello
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Do the history you know Gareth. There was a time
when I look back on my life,
I saw one set of footprints and
I said, what's going on there, and I said that's right, Gareth carried me why
even there. What is that he's? What he's there and he needed? He would know the vetoes. The footprints thing. That's his legacy he's like a ghost
follows you around, like you like, a ghost? No that's the Holy eager Edith, which
I have some respect for the holy Trinity. Please Jesus hearts, people he's out there haunting
all the time he's always around haunting. That's Jesus,
then, that's Jesus Christ
or like hey, I died again for you because you wanted to
The boy Jai died again. That's right cause you back.
The neighbor. I died again for your sins. No homer
I didn't. I didn't catch the part where you said something
banging and then the walls, okay, Jesus thanks for stopping by
I called the gym couch and I'm the fucking guy Dave. Okay name Gary, and this is not going to become a particularly Clark Park, now hit him with the puppy present six arguments that action can be done by the.
However, a second night
in forty nine year of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Ghost here. Rough
I know a minute
was yellow military. I was born in a small italian
named my little lp you I'm getting one
I trotted on over here.
how much is keep going all say when it's a bit north east of Naples: ok, because this was postwar conditions, not great ray.
Rocky L was raised. Poor in a country house thinks that, from bad to worse, when three earthquake struck the region in August. Nineteen sixty two point one to six point four and five point. While ours wandered began after shocks, but the apparition
for justice. Quite a now yeah, so Rafael's family lived twenty kilometers from the epicenter which,
For those of us listening one hundred and fifty miles, that's right over half the buildings
in the area were seriously damaged
HANS, landslides, intact.
Our town of Molly thought. European law was now uninhabited, had to be evacuated.
so people were moved into tents or shack,
in a nearby hilly area K. Sixteen thousand people homeless holy Shit,
so sixteen thousand living like and shanties on pills. Yes, basically, you know they
It did knock down the entire town to rebuild it. So one of the homeless families Raphael.
They also had lost most of their possessions in the earthquake.
and rough. Looking back on, it would say: no one in authority came to help them.
well Dave. I wonder wonder if this will parallel anything. This began a raw fails gesture.
Asked of authority, the family decided at this point to move to America to look for a better life there, okay, get the hell out,
be disappointed in another country for a change. Less
to the sea, is getting this.
What are the a basic needs?
space needle. Finally,
the mariners play. I want to throw out the first page. How does not work guy? Your coffee is shit.
by the way anyone listen like there are some people who
Just right now, what oh fuck it's going to be like this yeah it is, it is one it is it'll, be like okay yeah, so
so they they moved to see our rough ale, is fourteen years old, really hard, really hard move for him. He only spoke the european dialect which, if you know about dialects, but so it's just like a little it's off it's off the language is not it's not a tie and its related to time, but sure history,
Instead, it's it's enough that it's a little confusing right. You know yeah yeah, so there yeah, like which happens in a lot of countries where there's like that it's
I hope that everyone in that country would understand, but it's maybe not directly translated to the language right, so this makes it even harder for him to sort of blend in and
He he went to cause like Italians are like these guys really italian. Like
and he is
does anyone know what I was ever you it's. Ok, let's go on aid when I joined patio theirs,
suppose it moved. Wool may now
If he does said a meatball, then I'd nowhere is from, but especially mobile. I think
want to tell us something Dave, so he goes
high school he gets picked on a lot. He gets teased for his very thick accent. So this
on my own guys, like you and I were Empath sinner understanding of his plate, that's correct. True would never make it
Someone's extra are treating it seriously. That's so
but he's withdrawn. He he's not talking very much
Succeed is very good in mechanical drawing, which was because he had taken
learn that in a shop in ITALY, but he's not.
Rigour with his hands feels very, very good with his hands. He jobs.
high school in nineteen sixty seven. He had always
it is becoming an airline pilot. But now that's gone, that's out of the picture.
I totally out of the picture. As of his acts, I got about high school degree. Have allowed agree. Ok, so
he goes to San Diego and enlist in the Marines K
Fifty I said of the Mariners
the south who far she had a while, I'm here what the monarchy
and so this is the war zones. Are we going to do
he's going into Vietnam, but it's also not out of character, because he's known sprints
very stubborn, but also very gung ho. So so, if you show him
few show up till I get the
marine offices. While there's an active like I want to serve their like. Where were you don't need to see any documentation? Munchkin right over? You have your fitted right now. I guess there's just ready to get.
If out that's right, he was really proud american n.
it hoped fighting in Vietnam would make him a naturalized citizen and that's what he wanted, which is a lot which a lot of our our immigrants do.
And the whole thing now is a lot of them that fought actually just get kicked out. Serbia he sent he sent a camp annulled in which issues
near LOS Angeles
I lost like our South Augusta,
Beverley Hughes is sitting the hills. His trainers are very impressed. They
there's, a casual disassembling, reassembling and weapons like he's just like like
It's all good with his hands panicle like yeah he's just like this is easy to do, and nineteen sixty seven Rafael was sent to Vietnam. He was eighteen years old catcher. He suggested I undergo the time to go. Yup enjoy it. He arrived in December, perfect now, Rafael was
grunt so he's in the thick of it, close friends are being killed. He's he's, he's very good,
saving other soldiers who are in danger the ended up receiving the cross of gallantry for heroic conduct during the war.
I'm a while he's there he's trying to save money and send it back, and he opens up this marine savings account okay, so he is
and I think it works- you send it to like someone at the base. Then they put it in your account: okay, altogether, eight hundred bucks so also while he is in Vietnam, he starts to hate his commanders because of their racism. Okay,
if he wanted to be american,
you getting the whole thing,
It can be. My jam quote the leader.
My protein just think of me as cannon fodder. Always they send me first up the road with a mind sweeper, so they can walk soft and not get blown up, send the walk. They say only kite, that's
thus, while Dave I'm going to go on record, that's not cool. It's always
amazing to me that, outside of the like eighteen, hundreds that
the boy like what about the Walker, the MIC, yeah yeah like the right.
isn't that it's so recent yeah yeah. So after thirteen months he comes back to the: U S and eyes back at camp panel,
he's having a hard time readjusting soldier,
everywhere I go. Nobody calls me the whopper, which is to adjust.
Is it no there's nothing to mine sweeper
Ok,
how to be okay, honest,
it'll be over there. Oh sorry,
it just having a little bit of a musical started to myself. I guess
A star was sir
in my sound Raphael. Soaring sorry for its set apart for the movie
beaches away. I love every wonderful feels so in dear to me and says that I have a such a brighter future, but here
I'm just on a cliff's edge looking at,
sky saying well,
one. What we
let's be yes, I can ask us right now. Can I please get the course for a second back on the base, wrap it up? Ok, I've already!
just finish that cars real quicker and they and then you go queen their retreat
would include little shit. But I already I could just came back double clean. It doubles I'd. Let me just finish this. I just drop the couples by imposing the care, this
really come our men like you. Let's get over that already arrived. The chorus
may I swear it off high yeah, the corporate
yeah there's a little more, but I would like to talk in a guy, but you guys are giving me a complex because it's not a simple. It's a complex. You know what God's son is a ghost
how are they get eyes on him? What are you look like you're
Oh yeah he's a pretty is a pretty white guy,
just Ronald verse about it or hold on
You know what atoms are ghosts ghost
maybe I just had a one hour was yes
sweet
that's really bad whatsoever to progress. What we want-
not everything, is a simple, as I had taken a gun about its very and progress. This is the part awareness
to myself, and they don't know that I am missing a faster now now, I'm but on the American, not a fact, fucker fuck witty, so a soldier from his put
said quote: there are a lot of sick people confused people, Raphael was in some states. All of us were confused when we left Vietnam most of the plateau and will be diagnosed with PTSD Raphia checked. His marine savings account.
but there was not eight hundred dollars. There was only six hundred dollars.
The unit paymaster. So I think this is the guy. He was sent
money to anyway, the guy's, a total deck, any justice you're wrong about how much you said, cool sir.
if goes through a superior officers and they just them off and dismisses complaint
so now he considers this to be
an enormous betrayal quote. I had done my part during those thirteen months of the Vietnam WAR, but I was treated without due. Respect is believe in America is dashed. He starts drinking a lot and then one night he decides he's going to break.
The pediatrics, which is people know as a star on the base and he's going to steal either money or two hundred dollars worth of stuff man apply said it rise print out a pdf expert to pay me f, okay, but then he figured they'd even write a steal at or get them my so
I can find out if you started drinkin before he did this, but I imagine he did, but I think it then he continued drinking in the store. Let me tell you something you want to rob drunk, do not leave this.
To your regular, sober self, always give yourself
some balance issues, maybe a little double vision then get in and see what's going on, then you then then take the case, the joint and take the stuff. That's right. Most cap
burglars were hammered most capitals or what hammered? I don't think. That's true. I actually feel like I'm about to throw a flag on that night
I'll back down their known for being really sort of skilled and able to move. My facts come from gut instinct
So he keeps drinking beers and then he goes to sleep on the floor of the store. Oh boy see. This is why you can't do that and
yeah.
He behind the star. Flyer
Do you know holy ghost
will they find him the next morning and he
the rested and put in jail for tender side away? You ve gotta. Just this. Is you just gotta prep yourself for this awakening like it
you wake up in a store that you've been robbing and police. Are there you just gotta get up ago got David. Did they get away?
I hit my head so hard. I was calling a Pdx. It's a px out of the way, so he he's charged.
Okay, and then a court martial date is set? He could get up to six months in jail, so so now, from his perspective,
If he got ripped off a two hundred dollars, he tried to get that two hundred dollars back and now he might be in jail for six months, while he's
is swimming a step, but yes for sure it's bullshit yeah, so he's livid he's furious. He had a he just take it back with the Marines has stolen from so the day before his court trial, Raphael Bolts
they were actually to him anyway.
It takes a bus to Angeles
Am I going to be a movie actor? Of course he took his chinese rifle, which he had picked up in in
Vietnam. It was officially registered as a trophy or trophy will be on offer celebrating the sky and we have personally killed
So you go straight to hell. Exe
and he buys a ticket on a t w a flight to San Francisco for fifteen hours and fifty minutes. Now all done as I can def cause. Obviously some
I'm seeing some puzzle pieces here. Wasn't he has the firearm with him a well? It does other
with them. Yes, this is not about it. Ok, ok sure just wanna make sure,
And are you take our you put this in your bag? You going to take us on the planet. Have wait? What would it? What would you like that you're alive?
to go down the flag for free, but then you have to pay for a third. Otherwise we can check as many as you like, and seventy or less that destination. While he has carry on right and insight,
carry on is and one rifle which he had taken apart. So he s an open carryin, so he's it's in a tube gun is
I dunno what probably like a mail tube or something like it, just all packed into a tube. And what do you do? I'm an architect will have no more questions:
two hundred and fifty rounds of ammunition
which is a lot which is more than that's plenty plenty for a flight. That's right!
how many pilots they have a million.
I am exaggerating to shoot on plan might might get into a gunfire
Well, I need Ali bullets only pierce half as much because of the oxygen
It's like acts like what they say with alcohol, one in the heirs to on the ground. Settle this now much
charity, then no one checked his back at the at the most. They would have waited, but that no one is looking through a budgets are who would do anything? It's an airplane
There's, there's still some passengers on the plane when he gets on cuz the plane to come from Kansas City
I am where you're like crossing over with passengers from a previous flight.
happened where you were you, you get on a second leg when you get on a second leg, but not people are like excuse me, I'm like! Oh, so there's! Oh, that's what you're saying! Okay, sorry, I thought you meant like about to leave the flight it's like well, I'm in I sit there
You really have a system for their should they well. They doubt you not
should do. Is they should create fifteen different born groups that are tiered oddly and
Let's start with one until they've named seven other groups. That would make some sense that'd be amazing. It's late! Also, it's like one one am most. People are super tired when he gets on now. Hijackings are a relatively new. This is a new thing. It started maybe around the sixties, but even after they started, airlines were fighting against.
having security because they didn't want to ruin passengers flying experience. They wanted.
What an era can you imagine
the time when an airline was Blake and well we're just thinking about the customer experience here.
Imagine what a time
to be alive. No, my cancer. The first
but, like someone hijacked applying, you must have been like. This is crazy, but this due to guide him genius, yeah of Montgomery, thickness.
So they also didn't want to slow down the check in process, so they were just against it. So it's not happening now. They're in this year in nineteen sixty nine, it's October twenty eight there have already been fifty four hijackings in the US
it can and they're doctors like well, we got weigh bags, that's it. We got away and there's one
ejecting every six days, that is
I mean imagine for guys like us who used to travel as much if every sea
it'd, be like man. I got a bad name, you'd be like do I do. I am do look at that guy he's God he's packing heat. I might
have to do it myself, so the crew is now it's three guys in the cockpit and for young female flight attendant.
is Charlene. De Monaco was the most experienced she had one year under her belt as a flight attendant and she's twenty three years old, mom the flight before the captain, Captain Donald Cook, who's, thirty one. He told the flight
since there is a new rule to enter the cockpit ring, a bell outside the door. Instead of knocking.
ring, a bell is ring. A bell like a like. A sick, old woman would for a butler
or is there like an actual bell. There's a bell. There there's actually a bell that you ring, but like a not like, not a button, I don't. I don't think it's a button. I think it's an actual bell
I might be wrong, but this is what I read this I was described as ringing a bell. I'm not sure that
Maybe it is a but maybe there's a button, but it was just described as about I just can't imagine
That is just so amazing. So maybe it is maybe it's a bell and you might be right pop up on that, but then its name look there weighing bags because they care about the customer experience they might have a bell up. Their down is up. I mean, let me go.
It's a to go underwater for flights during this time right. It's like it's not an exaggeration to say that someone with an actual bell ringing, because this guy just walked on with a backpack with two hundred and fifty bullets in it.
like he must have seen the bell and been like. Oh that's, that's reassuring! So so
He proudly walked on saw the bell and he was a boy that things can be ring in a lot later. Captain candid captain
when shall we saw rough he'll get on them
And she notice him, she thought he was his plight, but he was a little bit nervous, he's very attractive, he's very he's tan.
eyes, got, flattened, wavy, hair and he's dressed in camouflage yeah. Okay, is it time to die, and then he also has a big tube sticking out of his backpack ski. So what's in the tube a blueprints
shearling goes up to ask the other five times. If they had asked him what was in the backpack and they had, and they were told it was a fishing rod. So this is before lying just go ahead and ask me what
the two me me, sir. What what's in that tube in your backpack,
Paul, I'm, that's pretty much it so so
the plane's pretty empty, there's as thirty nine passengers, everyone spreads out. They just tell everything and sit where they want San Francis relaxing. Some a lot of people are trying to sleep. They turn the lights way down.
Charlene and another flight attendant Tracy Coleman is twenty one. They start cleaning the gallery and getting stuff ready. Now the pop group Harper's bazaar is on board. Harper's bazaar is the same. It's not the same name
Harper's bazaar, the magazine,
so there is a little twist on Harper's bazaar. It's just fun: it's just a band that is formed.
as an omage or a spoof of the magazine, Harper's bazaar, you got it Buddy Dave, that's bizarre!
So Harpers Bizarre had a single reach number thirteen on a billboard short were not a magazine in. They did a cover of someone a guard focus on this,
band named themselves after a magazine and is doing, covers and succeeding. That's circle Dave I would
for you to come and see my new bad cat fancy. We ve got a great cover, a bogeyman rhapsody, so Harpers users coming back from a gig in impassive, Gina
on the plane, the drummer and the singer. Light up cigarettes they're sitting near talk,
smoking cigarettes as the plane takes off at one. Thirty am now taking off in a Boeing, some
seven very loud. The engines have a water injection system creates loud rumble was,
The water wagon by Cruz, okay, so Rafael, quickly, knocks back a couple of shots of canadian club whiskey and then he gets up and takes his bag to the bathroom where he reassembled.
His gun, hey! Why did he take his fishing pole into the bathroom? I bet he lost something in the toilet at smart. Should we ring the bell? No, no! Don't disturb the captain. Leave the bell fifteen minutes into the flight he comes out holding
the M one rifle and stands near Charlene in Tracy.
now Charlene is very calm and she says quote you're not supposed to have that,
sorry, sir. I dont think you might have nodded. Often we did the pre flight security speech. Mass Audrey
John, if there's something you need seatbelts, have to be fastened, we can show you how to do that. It looks like he had it before and there are to be no firearms. You said that was a fishing pole, you a little liar. If you're not gearing most excuse me, it's a boom boom. Stick, it goes
Bang Bang! I might have half a mind to ring this bell. I really have part of me thinks if,
if not now, when so Raphael answer a bullet to prove that the gun is
What's this isn't, which is a which is a ball or move like if someone just like you can add that ain't just take a bullet angle,
No, I only do I have it, but I got the I feel like he's got a lot of he's tipping square now
wait? Wait, that's my only a bullet not stupid. Now
know if you have a ticket? If you, if you give me the bug, I will not to shoot you.
And then you have to put you gotta know overhead been
principles
Man,
talking about rising a new, so called yellow submarine. Now they start walking towards the cockpit
in the back of the plane in Harper's bazaar watches
as Charlene passes by with a guy behind or plenty a rifle adder.
And the drummer says the singer. Is this really happening now? There's an off duty pilot
they passed by who happens beyond the flight and he stands up to confront Raphael
Then Raphael shouts very loud, Charlie Charlene
She immediately realized that he's a soldier like it was just obvious how he'll did what he did and then
if you looked at the after the pilot and said, sit back in your fucking seat, which he does
right by the way, I obviously a crazy situation, but if you ever get to you
it's to tell a pilot to stay in his fucking suit. What a pleasure a fun role reversal right.
I'll? Let you know when you can walk about the cabin mother fucker still so they keep moving. Are they going to first class compliance
Where Charlene entails the other to fight attendants hate. This guy has a gun. Should we bring the bell anyway,
feel them with the bell. We should be enough. I know that harmonised, bizarre someone. I know that harbours bazaars, I'm talking about there's an actual now here, Captain said to do it. If there is an emergency now, this italian media seems to have a loaded gun.
I certainly think they'll just like one every six days. Here's what I say if you people are shot. We ring the bell. Yes, ok, I like that. I like that great ok, you do drinks other snacks, ok, so they get to them.
The door and then Charlene starts explaining how they're not supposed to knock but they're supposed to ring the bell. I mean her god
just like, adorable, terrifying, sad upsetting, that's what that is
and Raphael is like. No, you knock on the door, he think now he thinks it's a trick code right
they won't let a ring. The not gonna get follow. Fur knocked ear rings again. Ok, I'm not a play! This game.
Sl I got a shot and, during the bear out of a son, a bunch of police officers have come out of the cockpit. I want a neck, he becomes
one more upset, as she keeps trying to explain the bell situation.
You start to realize he's paranoid and she ends up knocking instead, so the door open
Goddammit. How many times have I told you were used in the bell? Hello, sir and she's like this? Guy has a gun.
and Raphael steps into the cabin and points the M one at each guy, all three of them one. At a time, my God Captain Cook, first officer, Wenzel Williams and flight engineer, Lloyd, Hora and
Williams immediately additive waves was in them
Terry Betty Amir, there was like this. Guy is well trained, but enemies.
Doing Howard was holding the gun, he's like this guy's the real deal and the Raphael says, take the plane to New York, I'm going to Garcia Hamilton. This is a super weird request because almost all planes,
being hijacked are being taken to Cuba. Where was it headed before this San Francisco? Ok, so super short right, ok, ok and so Evans like we were, not Cuba, a cubits
become a thing because you know America's and others fuckin fucking turmoil. There are no flights to Cuba. You can't fly to Cuba, so Communis kept stealing planes,
hijacking them and taking him a Cuba, Fidel Castro loves air cuz. Not only is it
Someone stealing a plane to get out of America, but also then he he makes the airlines pay to get the plane back like it's a fucking great racket, good system yeah. So it got so bad at one point that.
the pilots are to be given maps of the Caribbean and guides in Spanish. In case they had to go to Havana wow
and this and send there like we just don't. We just don't want to check people. So what is the plan?
we will just teach people the terrain and language of Cuba. So
But hijacking a plane to New York is fucking weird and each year flight attendants took emergency training and one thing they were
taught was to not fall in love with the hijacker. Oh, my god know they were told that the high tracker would try to get sympathy from the crew
be sweet and tell them that their sad story- and you know of course, ladies that just like I am vital- and by the way I mean the truth of excess. It's
is incredibly sexist and it's also like, if you were to hear this,
I story you'd, be like that's bullshit
if you are going to like feel like you know, express
It's word someone who's, like you know, like I, fucking
if I heard that guy story I'd be like now, you know what let's go to New York YAP. No, it's fucking, crazy!
The minutes had to say I mean some people might develop like. I feel bad for this guy, because he's fucked up our. He wants something, but women aren't fuck. It is it's not.
The idea that you guys we gotta stop stewardesses falling in love with anyone.
This is this. This is their mitigation instead of just like shit like I'm, not I'm not one for airport security, but obviously like its instead of instead of being like our rights,
going to teach everyone what the landscape of Cuba is and then I'll flight attendant sticker.
we're going to teach you how to
These shows SAM Ball. Pilots go. Do your thing, though high five and smoke cigarettes
women stick around we're going to you and teach you.
So so cabin could go.
the loudspeaker and says. Ladies and gentlemen, I have a terrifying fucking news
the very nervous young man up here we're going to take him wherever he wants to go now.
While the cockpit crew thought they might get shot. A lot of the passengers are having a good time. Harper's bazaar is back there, just try to guess where they think they're. Here
it and one of I'm like what about Hong Kong and like what do I have never been to Hong Kong that'd, be amazing, so there's some passengers in back or just like. Well, this is going to be fucking fun. What I don't we have a. We have a different perspective on hijackings. Now
They start to get more progressively more violent.
things went on this era and had ended, culminating with them flying in the towers right. But at this point at this
point you're? Just I'm scared to vacation like ok, I've always wanted to go to Kuba you. I think I think a lot of people on the plane.
I like nothing's, going to happen us because nothing ever happens will just get taken somewhere, weird rain and that's kind of okay. So
they think it's cool. They might be going to Hong Kong and whenever there too, the guessing here, but rather
I'll said New York, but then he also
lifting said Rome, so the pilots like what's goin.
on here either way they didn't have enough fuel for where everyone ago, yeah.
This must go to San Francisco infants and it's gonna, Rome, so Captain Cook explains, is derived via the rifle
not having it. He knew there was enough fuel to get to New York. You think it's a plane! It's got enough. You filled up, you filled up the tank, so they go back and forth.
I'll and finally raw raphia relents, and he agrees to let the planned stop to refuel in Denver boy, the Denver Airport her
yeah, the Rafael, it's the it's, the old one, not the new okay lucky, so he likes he lets Kevin could go in into the cabin to talk to the passengers and Cook told them quote. If you've made any plans in San Francisco don't plan on keeping them because you're gone,
and to New York City like it's, the prices right yeah is a gentleman. I dunno what plans you've made for San Francisco, but toss those out the window because you're going to the big apple, the city, that never sleeps, no yeah Harper's bazaar or get a two day two night extravagant with a
He fell in Denver where
I always going to take us wherever we want to go where our hearts desires once you're in New York. Combinations will not be variety, but we will be providing you one round trip ticket
the EU and a friend of yours to go to New York.
If you're in Harper's, bizarre you're, going to write a song about it that no one's ever heard of called New York New York by little guy called Frankie Sinatra, but it'll be passed.
I your own, that's right, total prize
catch one thousand, two hundred seventy one, our I was I was:
at Fordham, then you said Harper's bazaar is coming, which I'm not really
and allowed to go to wire Alaska. So
when they get it when they put no one knows they ve been hijacked until they get in the car out of airspace when he can call air air traffic control and let them nobody on the ground nuts right right. Ok, yeah!
There's no transponders that point or anything. No one knows so. Anyway, though the plane lands in Denver Raw fail as the planet landing tells the airport to turn off all the
it's so the aid. So it's already, it must be already be safe, like they're on the guy. He says now turn off all the lights, all it's dark airport and then they they start refueling the plane
and as the refueling the plane, the crucial
talking to a and they're saying the best thing for you
Do right now is to let the passengers go because the passengers are are extra weight. If you get them off the plan, the fuel it'll it'll definitely get to New York selling. The plan will be lighter blah blah
sounds like the flight attendants have already fallen in love with him, which is just so. He agrees he's lying as long as there's no trouble. The passengers accept
for our Harper's bazaar. They must stay. Please economic advocates like what what about their luggage is again. They take their luggage
so parliament, each unawares and easily without it
what are they going to want embarrassment go on a bag, even three flight attendants he says can go and they would keep one, and all of us want to stay. Please well that they they actually an argument breaks over our
for which flight attendant should stay. Raphia want, Charlie and Captain Cook wants Roberta Johnson cause. He knows of the best and then act
passenger manifest
turns out Tracy as a boyfriend, a New York. In this way she could visit him cat tat. I can not, I mean you know
look. I have had a lot of trouble. Wrapping my head around moments in time on this show, but that the
casual
appreciation of a hijacker is talk about bizarre
I feel like I'm in Harper's. It's pretty. It's pretty amazing,
I'll to go to New York and I can see Brad Social
I mean, like it
I can end in New York caught. He can't stay there, he'll be arrested if he gets out of New York he's going somewhere else. I don't know where, but he's going somewhere else,
so the passengers all get off and then the off duty,
it's to meet you Raphael, keep it cool man. After the pilot comes back and he's like hey, I left a Halloween costume. I bought it in Hong Kong.
On the plane- and he asked if levy can go back in the plan and get us
costume in raw feels like yeah go,
who doesn't appreciate the idea of addressing up before forests as special that is verified is
you're going as a pilot drip. It's it's a dragon pilot. So
all the passengers go into the terminal where the F B, I agents, are all over the place. They bring them into a big room and they start grilling. Each passenger Harper's bazaar does not
merely talk to the FBI. They immediately call their manager
and we got an idea for a concept album.
Do you have any ideas on paper. Is
so we were hijacked so
the manager said it said at some time? If anything crazy happens in the UAE. Just call me anytime, so it's like three in the morning or whatever, when he gets a call by the time, the F b I
Rio's over. There is a
full of reporters waiting for Harper's bazaar. What is going on the manager set it all up? Okay,.
it's so the singer would later say it was quote the best publicity we ever had by a mile
and they were soon guests on embassies music show the spring thing.
We all remember the spring thing. What a great great show that's
Hendrick started, so the takes off
Denver, a full tank of gas, smaller crew, just the three guys from the cockpit and Tracy Tracy's, the one who ended up staying the boyfriend in New York one
can figure out how she edge it must be to she was the only one and volunteered, but that anyway, she ends up. So the three hour flight from Denver to J K is pretty peaceful. Captain cook
quote. We had a nice conversation. He was pretty. They agreed not to
about politics or religion, so they would all get along better, what's kind what is happening? What
read breaking is taking place in a hijacked cockpit. What
yeah what I hate to dislike you guys and we would hate to leave with a bitter taste in our mouth Raphael. So why don't we just talk
our families and movies we like.
Raphael told me you want to go to New York, but it wasn't his final destination. The crew again thought he meant Cuba there. Just like we're. Gonna Cuba, it's gotta, be Cuba
and he told them he had been in Vietnam for thirteen months. The Marines stole money from them. How he tried to rob the px I then got caught and that he didn't want to go to jail. So that's why
it was here. Does this end with him being woken up in the plane in New York and his fallen asleep on the floor again, so he relaxes and first class he's got a gun beside them.
He made himself a cocktail using a miniature bottles of canadian club, whiskey and gin
how to drink yeah. Sometimes people like me some those of your vega mixed drink there having something in there to cut the booze yeah yeah, now he's
I want to have a drink or that the ruins a whiskey and a June yeah. That's it. What do you call it? A detention,
like a Sheeta, so the crew told him. I don't know that could was trend of euro. This meant that the plane isn't equipped to fly over water.
that's a data and also that the crew themselves are not qualified to fly over water.
I assume that has to do with care like how JFK Jfk Junior die.
like when you're flying over water, you can dance set of regulations, fear you can get you get thrown off by the
Verizon and where the water isn't stutter like it, it can tell you it can tell anyway after awhile he agreed to let them call their company dispatcher to see what to do.
so called and the dispatcher recommended if they were going to fly out over the sea to get to international pilots JFK where I live.
It's being handled like a regular request
yeah DWI?
for what money have up there. We have a high jack or on the fly with us today and he is probably looking too
because over international waters, I do not have that class licence. What does the recommendation and is a hydra have again absent,
play does okay? Well, what I would say is I take him wherever he wants to go
and then the second that you are their requests. Some international pilots most swap you out, and then they can be hijacked. So just
make sure I reach out to a couple of pilots who are okay with being hijacked. That's right, yep already guess: I'm gonna have to go to the black book
hello. Do you have any
pilots that be hijacked. You got a budget,
What year? Do you think this is eighty or fine? What do you need
So so they arrive
super early in the morning. Raphia again has them park the plane, far away from the terminals as possible,
And then he tells puts out the order for them to tire buddy.
Fuckin area? Everyone stays as far away from the plane as they can ok, those few p he wants as few people as possible to approach the plane to refuel at best. What does that make sense, but the F b I wanted the hijackings,
stopped in New York, because no one had ever taken a domestic flight,
no one ever hijacked a domestic flight and taken it to another continent. That's never happened. Even the F b I's line is weird. Like I mean that is crazy.
but any hijack planes. Really. Oh, my God
international
I thought there was a different. Hopefully, as we want their passports, that's my concern. What
It'll be like when they land in Sri Lanka, so this is a big deal.
I saw one hundred and agents are dressed up as mechanics and other airport employees each each one with the objective of trying to sneak onto the plane. So it's going to look like a NASCAR flight
You're just going to run out of high, I mean: could they not just like, wouldn't, wouldn't it be, make more sense to be like hey? How many people normally do this three we're going to do five
like our own, we're gonna hundred now everybody
they are trying to run into the plane. So all these guys don't
come closer to the flame. That's panicking! Raphael sure
and as they're setting up the refueling f, I guess two or three f b, I agents who are in F B. I a uniforms walk up to the plane,
and Captain Cook opens the little window in the cockpit and and they talk in an agent,
tries to get raw failed to come closer to the window, but Rob feels like Gan not actually energetic shot, not gonna come over the window. First officer Williams quote: Raphael is running
He now he's upset now because he sees all the guys all around the planet sees what's going on. Raphia was
up and down isles to make sure they weren't trying to sneak in the airplane. He felt he would be shot if they came the window and there are
they all starting ominous shoot ominous shoot the crew, and then Captain Cook tells the FBI to get away from the fuckin plain, but the agency
we'll move the plane when we are when we get good and ready. So this is like I at some point: Americans
maybe because the Trump thing, but it seems that happened earlier, decided the F B. I was good at their job when most of the time the EPA is really
bad at the job. I mean reason in die hard. They make the joke about the FBI
when, when he's like, oh what do we do now? Oh I give you the F b I and they shut off the power and they get into the safe, because the F b I for
have been known as bumbling idiots is a good example, and so the F B, I say when we,
it couldn't ready and then legendary seed on right now with operation smother within and then a shock goes off. Oh shit now Raphael says and everybody this at this point time. It's pretty much. I think a great upon that he did not mean to shoot. He was just getting freaked out and the academic squeeze the trigger a little bit and the bullet went up in.
the ceiling and just barely grace and oxygen tank. If he d gone into the tank, the tank would have exploded if it had gone into the fuselage. The plane could not have taken off so that it would have all been over. So it's not something that he probably lump. Ok, gotcha, but at the time everyone thinks it's for real, like it's, not an accident rate. So Captain Cook quote: I love that is its captain Cook Ass, great a mean. It's been great. Dyson
It doesn't. Why are so? Captain Cook quote the f B. I plan was damn near a prescription for getting the entire crew killed, so cook now yells
the FBI is chastising them and said the plane is taking off now without fueling and he doesn't give a shit what they
do you get you guys are not so bad at your jobs that I'm going to do what the hijacker thinks is best. You guys went to die hard comes out so at that point the to pile,
Who are there to take over the international leg, pushed their way.
the FBI agents and get on the plane.
What is even the even even there like fuck these guys, these guys going to get some
killed, we're going to go in there and do what the jack your
these pilots are amazing, yet know the pilots in this whole story are amazing, so
it's hard to believe? That's why we don't pay them shit anymore, yeah, that's right! The new pilots were Billy Williams and Richard Hastings, so the crew had up and during the flight from Denver to JFK everything came very relaxed and no one was freaked out and.
And now that's gone. That's all kind. What are the odds that they're going to open an overhead bin and find a basis for Harper's bazaar in there? Like I just wanted to be part of the journeyman.
though so now the reminded that he could kill him at any time. Captain cook, while we sat with that boy for six hours and had seen him go from,
practically a raving maniac to a complacent and intelligent young man.
Sense of humor, and then these idiots irresponsibly made up their own minds about how to handle this boy on the basis of no information and the good faith we had built up from a six hours was completely destroyed, F B that determine the f B. I thank you for that. So the new the new pilots take charge.
their charges that way now raw fail or everyone else into the cock to stay in the cockpit and put their hands on their heads. So the other pilots as well.
Yeah all four of the crew are now are now the other two guys are flying, but
Rustic roll original pilots
get very far, certainly not to there now
and a half hours into thy jacking?
so as he's sitting there with his hands above his head. Captain cooks aren't talking to Rafael and talking to them and trying to convince him that they had nothing to do with the shit at the airport. That was all the f b I. After about twenty minutes, he calms Raphael down,
and things more relaxed again.
the plane now lands in Bangor Maine to fuel it's now early afternoon. The story of the hijacking and what had happened to JFK is all over. The news. Tons of reporters
photographers, are in a giant mob in the terminal at Bangor Airport, Harper's bazaar,
we gotta get to men
We got a gig, we're gonna, get back on their plane, so there's seventy five cops, keeping
I on the press that somebody pressure there
They don't want anyone trying to get over the plane bright, also theirs.
Hundreds of just Gawker is people of main have driven to the airport. They want to see some hijacking action, church,
but then the cops keep them a half mile away from the airports there watching from a distance sure around
El sees two guys looking at the plane from
by building and then Captain Cook radios the tower, and
says: Raphael says he's going to going to start shooting at those guys unless they leave and then the guys run away. So it's just a big spectacle. Yeah raised af, they get the plane filled up the plane takes off for me,
the BBC, quote a sense of solidarity, had begun to develop among those who had been together for more than nine hours I serve us. Do you want to just clarified the wet your time
the women the. What do you say that David sounds like you're talking about the men too, and I just want to make sure people aren't like what's going on, but under the,
surface, even as they tried to keep the hijacker happy, the crew continued to fear for their lives. So now, there's like I mean this. This isn't going to come up again, but there's like two camps, like the the new pilots Doug,
the fuck about Raphael, but the everyone else is like talk to him for hours and so they're trying to bring
I have a little bit and they, you know, see, what's upside and so now he's not flying is not Captain Cook's, not flying the.
and so he in raw fail sit next to each other and first class and they start telling
tell their stories,
I tell you what, when you told me about this whisky gin, I thought it was going to taste like shit. This is pretty good yeah. That's right
and I want to tell you about a Lama. I see a jump off a building. It's a great story assure so the gun is just sitting between them. Cook said, Cook tells me has been,
it was an air traffic controller in the air force and Raphael as Cook. If he he was married. Now cooks not married, but he tells Raphael. He is, and he has a kid. He thought that would make Rafael less likely shoot him. Yet
and then he tells Raphael.
to each other. It's weird car! Now I want quite her in this light. I feel ass way could didn't companies that weren't you go,
with a gun? I think- and this is committing, isn't that none of the crew brought this up and what were rough ale said he went to the bathroom and left the gun and no and grabbed it. So that
Maybe why he asked him, maybe why he asked him and then
just look, I'm not a murderer and I'm just not going to shoot you like it. Just not something. I'm gonna do yeah, so Tracy also spent
I'm talking about feel he totter a bunch of car games. He told her how to play solitaire boy. What
What do you want here or does not have a solitary happy one, so she would later
reporters Raphael was quote a very easy fellow to talk to. Did you found love with her
I know it's over. He told her
all about moving to the? U S with his family. We an interest
our flight now, so there are nine hours into the hijacking. At this point, Tracy Tracy takes a nap some
whoever asleep others like wins a lamb said he was way too keyed up to sleep. Are they?
we're going to Rome where they're headed to Ireland now they're headed to Ireland, okay, interesting, ah, there's not there's not really anything to eat. They just had left
We're cupcakes on the play! Well, listen if there's only one thing to eat May as all act like it's. Your twelve birthday
Let me then he's gonna grow. That's great news to some people.
Yeah. Unfortunately, the only thing we have left is whiskey gin and cupcakes. Oh boy, he is so at some point. They cross Time zones November. First, oh
get it. I mean it wasn't. Even his second was he waiting by? Does he have the timing down like it was waiting for it? I just recently adjusted the timing a little bit so he's a little off, but the run the run.
to the machine as Olympic Group. I'm sure it is so it's November. First that cross a timeline K. It's Raphael's birthday. Oh my, he had one a
he's twenty years old and there's cupcakes a is meant to be, but unfortunately there is no celebration.
the plane lands in Shannon Ireland and it takes a half hour to get gas, and then they take off again. So at this point there are eighteen and twenty two minutes into the into the hijacking
wow now now Charlene D Amato, who had gone off in debt
There is now at home
it's late in the evening and the FBI comes to her House Knoxville,
was there a photo and it's Raphael, and she goes that's the guy now the FBI knows who he is.
And they're they're stopping in Ireland just for more gas just for more gas, so the plane
gets the roman circles around Rome, as
he explains what he wants, its around five
it's a real fear. One demand he wanted the plane park as far away from the terminal. Again,
and then he wanted one unarmed police official to come out and meet him. Okay, but no, no!
groups of people, just one guy no gun the highchair,
he is now twenty six hours long and so had gone. Six thousand seven hundred miles at his New York Times wrote that it was quote of the world's longest and most spectacular hijack. Of course. Thank you New York Times. So Raphael starts talking to the crew as
He start to land cause that the the cops agree to send one guy with a car. So he starts talking to the crew as they're landing, and he says that he he offers to drive them to their hotel once they're on the ground and they're like no we're good, we'll get our own. Now, it's just that, and you know we
have you, but this is a it'll, be nice to be away also, I feel like, if my room with you having a new hole in your head. I'll stay
you can drive me to my hotel. My brain is literally STAR Trek
your training up at my primary stop it. My boy
this little and easy to be manipulated, no matter how many speeches I get, I can't help but care about your story. Rough, I owe you can drive me
were you one actually
call Don Tracy.
Play EL, I'm also in love with you now,
happens on these goddamn jack and flights. This is a set of man. I want to rub my chest air
against yours!
it's me: what have I wanna fuck you like a tax. It's a cup was unarmed.
and I have not been here long, but
I tell you one thing to dig a Rafael: a not a god, damn a leveled, you, okay, everything you do is a perfect. If
When I was a song, you had well actually, though,
But our eyes, nothing is that very, is like a pleaded or anything, but I mean
take her out around over the lyrics retrospect nasty,
because God I should have gone through Harper's bazaar- is writing processor away them, so
Serafine said he was worried. The crew would get in trouble because they didn't try to take his gun when they could have. I says the captain cook what I've got
the guy's, an awful lot of trouble and the captain says: look we didn't take it personally, a buddy, it's all business! We lorry we understand
your hijacker, you doing your business
looking to hijack any flight that I'm the captain on for now and rest, I am it's an honor
the plane lands and their weight. And then
An Alfa Romero drives out toward the plane course course. Italy, hello,
hello, we are a stereotypical, typical dahlia. That's that does the siren.
A sister
as a spy sent me the ball. I made a bar LISA made about LISA made a bar. They shut it off, use your moodle boom.
So this was deputy customs official Pietro a jury. I I had there two different descriptions of him. One was that he was the police chief of the airport and the other was he was deputy customs official. I am betting that deputy customs official, but so I have volunteered to do this. He he parks he climbs up the steps to the plane. He's got his hands.
I was head, Raphael turns to Captain Cook and says quote so long Don. I am sorry I caused that you all this trouble and then he asked the captain
because he wanted to write him a letter and explain to him. Why
Is it all gone down and Navy just to keep in touch and just to keep in touch me, and maybe I can
to your house and a hold up your ass. They just some night is for old time's sake. You gotta,
at the pool. He got the pond. What you got, though, we've got a pool and a pond, but at a pawn to be good for you.
That's, ok. I could quote
from a movie collar, carry a cheque which has
even a beta May, yea Raphia Pietro walked down the steps as Raphia holds the rifle and then they get in the car
still gets in the backseat, and he points the rival at Pietro and tells him to drive to Naples. Raphael is going home, okay, yeah, so as the Alfa Romeo drives for cop
cars start tailing it and when one gets too close Raphael points the gun and makes them back off and then start
giving directions
tell they lost all the cop cars. So how is he doing? That is, I
left to supervise now right. Maybe you better go
around about one of time. The fountain go left go left again. Now
through this do the alley all they can to make it. Ok, now go home, drive a person
pulp in a honky turn around the cops or look at the hey that Papa. I think it's just stuff like gorgeous.
stop lying when it's a red light and then go when it's red, you know that kind of stuff, whatever they lose him right. Okay, so he then drives hasn't the drive out of the country outside of Rome. Six miles
is she come becoming more and more narrow those two versions of this again
There's one where it says the road comes to a dead end and Raphael gets out of the they both
car than Raphael runs off in this. No one we're off. You knew where he was going, and he just said, stop here and then but
either way. He ran off into a vineyard, ok, yeah! Well that will address the stereotype. Your classic italian escape justice.
And then he threw a bunch pasta. He ran off even a of
and sent to a vineyard. It's literally like they're disappearing, cannot see him. He came,
drunk and he made his own wine
I don't know how it happened, but I accident I met them are low, which would be a real stranger for this region. That is very strict.
It's very bizarre almost about the belong in a magazine. Who knows what the name or be Marlow. It sounds better. So Captain Cook, Captain Williams and Tracy Coleman- were then interviewed by ribbon.
voters in Rome Cook said: Rafael had told them. He was going to go into the woods and will stay there until someone came to catch him, hmm, so they they keep asking cook questions which are
legitimate normal questions about what happened and what went down about the hijacking, all important questions, and then they turn to Tracy, and the first question to Tracy is quote
did. You serve the hijacker with drinks during the flight,
it's just
We are willing to hear what you give him a lack of coffee and we need it. We did away for a translator. None of us is speak, a woman
Did you get that
the bigger dooryards and a fall in love he had come in. I speak a little bit: a woman American, hey, you got
need a brain. You understand how easy it is. Atomic Naples like you're, so
we start searching the area where he ran away. They search for five hours is hundreds of cops police dogs as helicopters.
They find his gun and ammo in a deserted farmhouse, but they still can't find him
it's all saints day, so a local church, the sanctuary of divine love, is packed for mass,
they're, all very well dressed, except there's a dude in a vast and camouflage military clothes hanging out in front who sort of sticks out a little bit church
The priests sees he calls the police and he's any tells them
then he saw the sky so near by a cop sees raphia running on a hillside. Another cop takes raphia down with a flying, tackle now, Raphia can't believe it when he's being arrested. He said quote: pies Piquet me arrested.
Which means my people. Why are you arresting me? Yeah, you kind of
got home, I added a whole yeah super to be free man, I'm on a guler.
so he's taken to the Rome police station and interrogated now the Associated Press describes the interrogation quote. The questioning of a miniature yellow was light almost friendly and at times laughter could be heard in the room,
detectives carried out the interrogation has taken the police called him by his first name.
and after questioning for two hours, the police, let him talk to report. Looking
hi jack of one or more plain,
guys I've Anna charming. I you gotTa Vienna, roman environmental. While a year we had a couple of wines which is a whiskey energy in
the good guys are great play, and it's know what is he's going to fix it here.
How do you feel is a terrible, so Raphia acted like he didn't know,
What reporters you're talking about when they question him, he's like what hijacking when they asked why he came to ITALY he's like is this ITALY, like he's totally just like, say he's like. I never thought about this part, so cheap
active Palmary told reporters that he thought Raphael hijacked the plane, as quote a rebellion against the Marines and against american society. He want.
To get away from America because he was about to be tried. He did not have faith in you, justice,
justice is hard in America. Here it goes much easier and he has faith in us. He is just a boy, a child
A look at this little guy here is just a little fellow. What do you want to put a managerial? Ok, ok, everybody everybody's got a lot of questions, but a first before we start among these guys, not gonna, be able to answer a lotta, your questions or care, because this is a legal, a baby. Ok,
This man is illegally.
The two years old. Okay, do you have Meka
but bigger make make it has died. I ok, so he gonna go get chain,
So, if you can, I have a question a please
with a rattle shake of the rather Larry, and when you ask a question, ok and if you know
Looking at you shaking your keys and said, Google a little baby, I want to ask you something:
because again, this guy's a very dollar bill he's a very baby is of an acute, a baby and he's a mile away.
Ok, I'm about them is a baby okay, so that in the time of India, you have allowed me to speak. This baby is my baby. Ok, this is my son,
Is there are often he would never do anything like that? He's too little he's gonna be
a priest cool in about two weeks. Ok, start priest, little baby. He could crawl little bit his head. Not
Starz Nick is not a strong enough to support his head. Yet
What he not looking at you and you look in the googly eye- is because his neck,
it's not over the muscle to keep it ahead. Okay, thank you.
Now. Excuse me I'm going to let him nurse on me. While you talk to him okay, so if you done
question is
As he's a nurse in on me. Ok, let it go get your leap on their dad
Yeah he wanted to garden
it, but he's gone Naples. Okay, Harra there is yeah, that's a nice
So meanwhile, the U S, as is charging him with air piracy kidnapping, and they want to extradited immediately course now his father Luigi wow.
God returned from the? U S and was now living in Naples and he had terminal cancer. Ok,
So he comes to Rome to see Raphia the apron
says. When Luigi gets to Rome, he is greeted by people in the city like he has a celebrity. Ok,
and the way she said
is about our female quote. The war must have provoked a state of shock in his mind before that he was always say, and then
where'd. You said he would clip Raphael around the ear the next time he saw him and that's when he gets ends to six clippings.
A body will lies guy. What are you crazy? What is wrong with you? What do you do that? What do you do that? Are you so kick me
is it got enough. He got his punch. So the phrase
Hyssop came E r s. T is going viral. What is
Why are you arresting me? I'm this is my home. What is it again? Is
my people? Why are you arresting right? Ok, so it's just it's the phrase right. It's Oliver! It's all over ITALY, Raphael gave an interview, and this time the
and his reasons turns out that missing two hundred dollars was the difference between flying, to see his dying father and not being able to afford to fly to see his dying father
shit and now he's very quickly become a folk hero overnight in ITALY. He's super good. Looking he's an italian kid who just wanted
return to the homeland, and then women are super into his movie. Star looks ready one. Seventy
a girl told a reporter. He was as good looking as the biggest italian film star except Rafael. Actually did the
action himself, whoa
Also, let's easy does it. Seventeen nuts
so,
but there's tons of women like this under under pressure from the public
and authorities announced that they're refusing to extradite him to the? U s.
And by the way they did by releasing some smoke from a chimney.
yeah, but he could get the death penalty for for air piracy and kidnapping. So.
They said they would try, I'm in a time court. Nixon menstruation is really upset and their worried that all the love he's getting was going to lead to a copycat.
bright as I'm the law and order president. We got him a coffee cup and it didn't take long in Ohio. Fourteen year old, David Booth ditched school on November tenth
took a bus to Greater Cincinnati Airport. Very pull the knife on eight year old girl and said: quote you're going with me to Sweden.
took her through the terminal with a knife and a throat, and they boarded a delta DC nine, which is absolutely not capable of flying to Sweden. But what kind
is airport now boarding passengers who are holding women hostages with NI. How does that happen? They're, like we don't want to bother him. He ordered the pilots. Take off for Sweden and they're like yeah. This plane won't go to Sweden, so they don't do it.
And then he eventually gets talked into surrendering as the plane sat on the fine I'll go back to school. Ah
the UN released a statement,
saying it was deeply concerned about international flights and voted to call for every country to pass air piracy laws. Now ITALY did not have
piracy laws, so he wasn't going to be clearly that
and eighteen days after the resolution was passed, another six planes were hijacked, so it's literally a thing: it's it
They have to have it. What the appeal I was worried about was actually a thing right at that.
while his lawyer Rafael, is the F B, I probably helped make it a thing a little bit right, because I always think that when they blow the cry like when they they can sometimes advertise the crime yeah. Oh absolutely yeah, yeah yeah yeah what what they did made it a bigger story, absolute. So at the trial his lawyer said a portray Raphael's a victim a poor time victim of a terrible foreign war, quote a civilization which overwhelmed this uncultured peasant
The public buys it they're all in because the stories of what America is doing in Vietnam are fucking horrifying, so he he,
uses that he gets acquitted of all crimes except weapons possession, and for that he has given seven and a half years, appeals he appeals and the sentence is reduced and on May first nineteen. Seventy one
We walked out of prison, a free man after one and a half years, so he's just twenty one years old.
max out of prison, he's he's in a he's in a brown suit, his hairs longer, there's a crowd of photographers and cameramen and reporters and people and one of the reporters asked Raphael. If he's sorry for what he did and Raphael smiles and says quote, why should I be talking about another catch phrase?.
Offers role it. I guess an offer to be a nude model, doesn't doesn't take off, he gets a contract,
to be in a spaghetti. Western of course
I'm afraid either Avalon the fortunately I probably eat it that doesn't pay off. The guy who made Dr Shoe Bago offers
you make a movie about his life called a pet, gave me a recipe, but that doesn't happen either,
when the movie is that nothing comes of any this. Then you just starts live in his life. When the movie Rambo comes out,
Rumors are Oliver ITALY. That Rambo is based on Raphael, and the original name was Rafael BO, but the guy who wrote Rambo is like no. No, it's not Rafael ended up,
working as a bartender, and he married the bar owner's daughter who he had known since they were kids. He kind of grew up with her sins.
so he incense, add one son and then ran fail, opened up his own pizza place, which he named hijacking. Oh my god. What,
While I read they really, they really have Italian to the attitude of the hijacking,
but hardly my neighbor gave me a rusty like yeah, right, yeah right right after eighteen eighteen years after the earthquake destroyed his village, another one
the exact same area. It was a six point. Nine really bad tons of buildings destroyed. Raphael was one of a lot of times who went up there to distribute aid on their own, and then
Recognized him. He ended up being interviewed by people magazine quote, I mistrust in
you shouldn't. So I give help personally, I know all about people who don't keep their promises.
he also said he had changed, I'm very different now to who I was I'm sorry for what I did to those people on the plant in February nineteen. Eighty five, since I got pregnant again, but she went into labor and her and the child died on the internet. Do it happened due to medical malpractice? The doctors fucked up so Rafale is furious and he came up with a plan. I dunno he decided to attack a metro medical conference that was being held just outside of Rome
and he was going to do that to draw attention to the negligence that killed his wife and son, quote. I decided to carry on my own battle to change the course of medicine. I called this the project I was
Vince that the only way to change things was to use force well to be fair
so he bought guns, oh dear, any, carefully, planned attack
so he's just going to go in and fact massacre this conference don't killed the lily. Dude you got away,
so at the same time as he was planning on
He made a new friend a young guy named Tony Tony, was a christianity
giving Raphael bibles and having read passages out loud.
and then one day, Raphael read a passage from the gospel of Luke Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do and he said once he read that it changed
wow and he decided to follow God and to not attack the medical conference. Well, okay, I mean this is like I mean yeah, you know what I'm not going to kill about twenty five of people, I'm just going to sit here and read them have by wow. This is a good book.
in nineteen. Ninety nine Raphael found out there were no outstanding criminal charges against him in the. U S
so he decided to
I return to the US amazing, hey, I'm a backer. It's called I'm a high backing. His ex soldier buddies had been fighting for years to get his other than this other than honorable discharge changed to honorable or
General discharge, they argue deserved it, forty done in Vietnam, so he asked them to do something else:
became he won his old buddies to find the people had held as hostages. So he could apologize to get outta here.
Oh boy, shower invitation you're, like I'm good
socially, it was still a flight attendant. She. She was a fine ten for thirty five years before she retired, so she she kept going is flattened and one of his platoon members reached out and she was like. Yeah
at first, she was like no she's like. Why not I mean, what's the harm yeah, so in Oregon
two thousand and nine she drove to Branson Missouri, where the platoon was having a reading, I like, as she has the drive I know,
so also Wenzel Williams went to
pride and only to everybody yeah. I wouldn't so
those only two who went to meet him
around this time in two thousand and he was also diagnosed with PTSD in nineteen. Ninety nine, two thousand two thousand and five
that took so long. Obviously, the captain Cook refused and that really hurt Raphael. He really thought they had
yeah man. You think you know a hostage
so the two hostages listen to Raphael, Charlene it first
tents in and not gray, but then they talked and it was better and Shirley
after listening to him, she actually felt sorry for him, and then
at the end of their meeting. He gave them both a copy of the first amendment.
Inside he had written a node quote: Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do and they were like sorry. This is about you,
when asked in two thousand and thirteen if Rambo, is based on on him Raphael said quote: yes, it's true. Yes, of course, that's obvious. Look at it name, one difference one.
Between me and John Rambo, who I like to call Rafael some feats that both and I and other
Instead, during the Vietnam WAR were taken as inspiration
Raphael still alive. He has a Youtube channel which is dedicated to accordion what? What Dave? What what? What has he done?
holy shit. That is an amazing story. That is amazing story, and the truth is that, if only we could way
motivations in India crimes and let that somehow factor into our judicial,
us, because, although we should always and
And you cannot truly you just I mean this. Is what chickens come home to roost? This is
what happens, and so you cannot fuck people all I mean we're like
Indeed, this is just the solo fucking right now, the country,
In the gang bang that won't end, you know, but why you just it's just like
it's not that you're, just not saying what he did was justifiable, but people have breaking points and-
is that I mean this is what happens when you push them? It's, like. You know,
that's some lunatic in a hotel room is like the lamps talking to me this,
The guy who I was just like my fuckin dad is dying
and a little out of the two hundred dollars. That would have gotten me to see my dying father. So if the system fucks me I'll fuck the system- and he just fine,
in a war for that, yes country, so you know you know
those sources, the baby,
see cheated the eighty five, there was longest most spectacular.
I checked by rolling Hughes, Raphia
Many a cello interview with the author of the longest internet, Inter Continental air jacking history by Enrico.
Well, they an air jacking that sounds like when you mass
in the bathroom when you're on a plane. That's right! This heartthrob marine became an italian folk euro because of an airplane hijacking.
And an and then some newspaper
That is my lady suppose, last m,
I n, I c h. I e l, L, o and then a book. The skies belong to us love and terror. In the golden age of hijacking by Brendan Corn, oh dude, he looks like he could be on tv in that era. Oh yeah, I mean there's some pictures, you like Jesus wept, yeah of course. Well, let's see
But now I love this. This is my favorite. I can't. Oh, I skipped over twenty years. He's got a mariners shirt on now,
the other one on the other end, I think, is one of the other. Now
is it go with the mariners shirt.
Now is not the right here. Getting those had a hare hair wow man. That is quite a story.
that really is quite a story is also so strange to just think of the era like when you think about what it takes to get on a plane. Now
yeah, it's just crazy. I mean I remember as a kid like how it you could go, or our name
I mean, but you know for awhile like you could get. Anybody could walk you to the gate,
You say goodbye, and you know it was just a much more fluid simple process,
I also remember when they came up with this
Dan Trans, where you have to go in that machine and they were
Valium and JANET Nepal, a tunnel,
who was the like: the Homeland Security
something like that. She would not step inside of one of those.
When they were like. Do you want to show people that she was like I'm good yeah? It really something like that. Yeah, but again, do most of my facts come from my gut. So it's just a catastrophe that is quite a story dude.
there you go, he did it. We side planes, we did it. We do okay, yeah.
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