Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine activist Abbie Hoffman
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So atta was born in no Worcester Massachusetts, his parents, John Hoffman, and a Florence were middle class and jewish
on the back of a baby photo John wrote quote Hell.
unleashed wait. What on the back of the lab,
these baby photo. He wrote hell unleashed
that is insane what what
He knew I don't remember going to Hell. When did we go to hell
he knew. He knew that he knew
The kid was going to be looking at a demon. This isn't. It is bad news
the kid was gonna be a
We, however, is ok. Okay,.
Abby had asthma, but he was very outgoing and very lovable
a lot of extended family members died when he was young, so it was
sad House sorta.
The younger brother Jack and then his sister Phyllis, so three kids
and I mean Jack share the bed.
and every night
Is it kick Jack so fell out of the bed, so they could claim a larger part of the best. I guess
define sharing, because
to me when you physically kick someone out of something the sharing is done.
It's less sharing, then the word would imply absolutely yeah. Yes,
they had a war over the bed. That's one sided,
Jack said. Abbeys asthma attacks were frightening. He ended up hospitalized two or three times a year. Ok! Well,.
Now they lived in a jewish neighborhood, it's you know obvious
It was tour. So it's a lot of Irish, a lot of Italians, so they're accepted, but there's still a lot of antisemitism. It's one of those. You know fine, balancing acts of a of a jewish middle class right
area, but they're, very
How to be Americans at this time, the post World WAR two years there very happy years, abbeys preteen, he loves he loved pranks, he loved you got,
fight? I don't have asthma having your whole life
I got yeah frank
All those trips to the hospital were part of Abby's pranks.
so at the time Abby thinks America is a great country he's like I love America feels like that is going to change it, W
get gets in trouble lot, but the more he's punished the more he acts up
It's one of those
What are you going to do? Yeah love it
High school. He hung out with tough kids.
start, shooting craps,
pool smoke cigarettes.
and he started hustling pool and bowling
for cash share shop.
Did. Then he started carrying a knife.
This is literally all things that I did as a child.
other quote the craft he studied to perfection. Was the street hustle okay,
have. You started hanging out with a couple of other kids when he was sixteen, so a little crew as they called Abby to the abs wow.
He better in bed means six pack. Otherwise, that's like yeah show me. I'm fat, yeah, there's just
jello stuff there.
They call themselves that the trio they call themselves of the Ruth Street, stopping society so ok sure so there.
the Pillsbury of the time. That's right
erode streets, stop and society. You don't like that. Do punk yeah go along.
We've got a fought a lot, but the fights usually came to him. So he this point. He has a reputation. So kids are always testing him and wanting to see what he's made up so he's fighting a lot. Ok
see stole cars for joy rides sure
and he was so very good. With the ladies
we a car, that's right! Jack
Nobody was getting laid more than Abby nice, that's cool
It's cool, yeah, yeah, it's cool, that's hot, that's sweet!
in eighteen. Fifty three abbe was expelled from his high school. Now
there's different versions.
Abby written Abbey wrote a biographies. This different versions that even his own telling of the story, one is that he got into a fight with a teacher and others that a teacher ripped up
paper and yelled at him, and then he got into a fight with them. Another
was that he, just in the paper
God and then
that let you an argument and he got kicked out so there's a bunch of different
some doubling up with a teacher, the sure
so he to a private prep school and in nineteen, fifty five he's pretty much a greaser, but still
for college and wants to be a doctor. Okay,.
it's like that! I'm a bad boy, but I'm still a privileged kid right. That boy
yeah? That's right, you're right that those are the best bad boys
throughout the enraged and I will cut you and then I'm gonna be a doctor wages.
hey. I know why are we going cited stealing or let's put it on my dad's credit card?
I fancy he
into Brandeis the college,
there. He was heavily influenced by marxist teacher named Herbert a mark who saw
So soon every left us in the country is Gary College, get
isn't the country's going to be reading a Marcus right. He wrote like the the seminal book for the time for leftists.
That's why you got to abolish Brandeis. That's right! That's right! Yes,
as yeah, I thought so so bad
This guy's teaching I'm right so which is raising the race ethnic guilt, Lake
So many of these professors at the school or anti establishment. He also learned a lot from Abraham.
Maslow which humanist psychologist
Muslim, FED abbeys, like desires, to help oppressed people and Mikey sort of FED into that to get a god here we go is getting radicalized.
learning about the oppressed
and when he's in college, he learns all about the actual history of America. That kids don't learn that he wasn't taught in Worcester. Why didn't he
Podcast cast history
so he started get upset that never learned the truth.
And in the summer of nineteen thirty, fifty eight Abby took a trip to Europe
and he was in Paris and he stumbled across his first protest-
what the hell is this?
who the fucking, what that's right
What you've never seen one of these before
were fired up with biodiversity. What does it were fed up with the government? Shit tat? Are they give us all? The time is a plate of shit and they tell us is Peggotty, but there's no spaghetti sheet now. It's ok notes that ok
poster Board,
beat the shit.
This shit is not, but you know, do you know it shit or do you think it's spaghetti not so
miracle. So I too share and then I get mad at people appointment than a meeting shit. I'm on my way as in the way, the exactly you're being forced sped shit. They tell you what spaghetti
Spaghetti at all. Look
Don't you join us, maybe after this
get a real plate of spaghetti instead of continuing to eat shit and
It's spaghetti
was it I mean?
the greatest food in the world, even though shit, but that's what I'm eating, because I'm from the greatest country in the world, so
this shit, because
I like Reggaeton
Andrea, degrade, this country, huh, you say yeah and I like freedom and that's why I eat shit, and let me ask you this: who told you that your country was the greatest ooh? Let me guess: you're around country huh. What are they supposed to do?
since you live in the sheets. All that is just getting high
it's on supplies the whole time or is it
to tell you a
you live in sheet there. Maybe you should fight back retaliate burn your choice.
Is yours my friend
you want to be full of shit or do you want
returning spaghetti into your sheets like a natural digestive tract.
We save you from Germany, mother, Fucker, zapped, ease propaganda, you can t
each man, s for more heat, so
of Sunday, you get so full of shit, you explode and when you are
Splurge you want something to eat and you're, happy factors, trash begin,
If for once find that dog
Was looking for help next time? Next time you get invaded by England or whatever happens in twenty thirty people, people
unbelievable you, people,
six like this? If so, blowing your eyes are open, but yet you cannot see
When you are ready, my boy and have a participant
he waiting for you.
And so now machine she's in some pepper, and I will tell you to say when and when you say when I will stop
putting pepper upon it. So.
Gabby joins in this protest. He does know what it is where water were shouting about.
the whole area came alive with swarming shoving students. I got clubbed to the ground staggered up and ran.
Following a racing bodies. It was my first political demonstration, my first beating by police. To this day I have no idea what the marching and clubbing was about theirs,
That is the main thing,
back in college, he's all about politics and psychology and sports he's a big sports guy, a captain of the tennis team, chairman of the film society, president in psychology club, a regret.
it's with a degree in psychology and then goes to Berkeley to get his master's K.
that's San francisco- and you know
sixty so there's a lot of shit going on. What's going on there, something angry
poetry, readings, Allen, Ginsberg types in the cities stuff like that,
still mostly a straight and narrow dude a classmate
one point tries to tell about the CIA and what it's up to, and this Abi responded the CIA. What the hell is that,
If she just said no, I
I thought he was going to take like a stance of like they're there to defend us, but instead he's like I've never heard about before those letters are out of order, you're trying to do the alphabet. Yes, so
Caryl Chessman, Ed,
it was a prisoner who had been convicted of rape and given a death sentence on completely circumstantial evidence, so a lot of people who,
we're against the death penalty were really rallying around him, and Abbe became one of those people who thought he was innocent and like
the all these celebrities, even people in government, the Governor California, was like, I think, he's innocent.
But we still have to kill him because those are the rules we I mean we need to. We need to find who's in charge and we'll stop the I swear
if I ever see myself I'm going to give myself a piece of my own mind. I can't believe
I'm over seeing this shit so he's asked
and have you is outside the prison than a candle the jewel and then the drive and harmonies like mad, and he says quote: how does this work in a democracy? I mean? No,
wants to see him die and the state still kills him like yeah,
I mean it's an understandable
issue with to be around today cool
and think about what they were.
I can be an Abbie Hoffman.
Two weeks later. He went to a protest of the on American Activities Committee that was being held in San Francisco, and it ended
all the protesters being attacked by cops.
First like beating by our socialist eyes, so I think you miss both because you centres up there was a riot.
Now I was approached protest. The crisis you'd be here, we can edit this out, but but you
You slipping again because the police beat them at the end yeah, so they were rioting. It's a riot.
no they're protests. The police would not intervene unless there was it's a riot is so it's a riot. It's a police riot did no. No there
the protesters are not peaceful, they're rioting so go ahead. People
when you still now, there are just trying to get in and been there being held out and they want to get in and the police stack them. So it's different just
sounds real
if they had a right to go in and watch, but they weren't allowed to so they I'll tell you what they had was a riot to stay outside. It can be bigots. That said it just it wouldn't make sense of what you're saying is I'm I cannot connect the dots there. My mind was very little
around this time, Abby's girlfriend Sheila, who was still in Worcester, got pregnant.
and Abbe jobs out of college out of its gradual programme
it goes back to Worcester any Mary's marries Sheila,
We might still be worcestershire. It's just yeah yeah,
doesn't think,
at the wedding his dad got drunk and kept talking shit about Brandeis
what Brandeis is
Can I get another cup of ice cubes in here? Have one on the Brandeis Brown Brand. As a you know, they're just there to
Karl Marx is our very own marks. Further investment drought about Brandeis is about
bullshit in
says: narrowing gathered around.
To turn their or those Brandeis goods? Is a total should show a garbage? Those get
smoke: a J bone
his uncle walked around with one sleeve rolled up, saying quote
kids, gotta slung the size of an elephant. What the
what I should. I wasn't sunk my teeth into the dad bit, but the Euro debated uncle cock
he's was covered around the corner:
hey is
elephants, and I talk about the death of dark about the trunk. Both with kid I'll tell you. One
well I'll. Tell you what, when the mob gave birth she said. Is that a boy or a girl? He said it's a dick, oh wait! There's a baby attached to it. Hey I'm tucked up in that good guys, I'm not kidding. I made these kids,
Dick is so big what time? In fact, the queen of England everything to leave these kids back. This huge he's got the biggest Dick
I need a little balls thou, but they private just regular size because comparatively do is tax law. Wow I'll, tell you what a lot of.
I think he the railroads, because boy can this kid lay would so.
Hey good luck to the married couple by the way, hi and good luck to you,
especially my dear because all Allah, this kid's cat gets huge. I do not envy you that I don't want to get too deep into what's going on with you guys, but if a rumor has it right tonight, you're going to be having fun tomorrow, you're going to look like you, I teach horse riding classes on the weekend. Oh la la auchi Mama. Why are we
so the marriage turned out not to be great they. I know why they had passed.
six in common they like to fuck, but then that was about it.
Their son Andrew was born on December thirty. First, nineteen sixty and
got a job as a psychologist at the western State hospital. Okay, he started
a softball game for patients.
And because they didn't understand the rules, sure so
Sometimes, though, it hit the ball and run straight to third or straight to the pitcher's mound and then Abbey would just give a big hug and then walk them over to first, when it's pretty adorable
sliding into the pitcher's mound, hey, safe right here,
Some of our european societies
but the better his work life God. It seemed like the worst. His home life was getting now
One point Abbe commenced his brother Jack to see a psychologist and it too
the psychologist was just dosing people with LSD. Well that I've
some of that territory. My last yeah that was such an easy prognosis. Just an diagnosis back then was like mountain seemed like you need a trip. Your balls off help
put on some rolling stones and take this so Jack tripped a couple of times.
with his. I guess with his psychologist, Jack
Abby marriage ended in nineteen sixty two and then, after that he started working on a Democrats campaign for a Senate in Massachusetts. So this
Democrats or an opposition party I'll stop
and adapt
and leading the effort in central and western mass and
You borrowed ideas from the civil rights movement on how to organize.
and the cuban missile crisis came and
the candidate attacked JFK F, having a standoff a stand off with Russia are now
I like attacking Hillary Clinton and Deborah messing house. It's not you don't attack it back. Then you didn't attack JFK in Massachusetts or so he he
He was making progress, but after he did that he was just fucking annihilated, but during
Her campaign Abby had learned and he made a lot of connections.
New York City and he worked in a theater
he went shows
what are you wash Lenny Bruce Alla time he walked too. You know all that grants village sort of stuff power our full influence there
totally.
dresses like his idol.
And then. Finally, in Sheila industry,
at some point decide to give another shot.
They do and she gets pregnant again really quick. So I'm not surprised.
so Abby needs a better job, so he gets a job as a pharmaceutical salesman. Okay and
Sheila decides Abby needs a car
to fight for and that'll help their their home life.
if he's putting all his energy into something. That means something right
she wants. She thinks for the project he will be.
Less overbearing, it though yeah, I think, that's it.
Now, Abbe realises, with its farmers, cynical salesman job. He can get away with working about ten hours a week and
doing using the rest of the time for activism, okay. Well, it's a
you think of a time where someone working
I received a calls, an ability and I'm an activist, so she was always encouraging them. This is,
life a little while he buys a house
kid Amy is born.
eleven days after Amy is born. J F K, assassinated Abbe
Kennedy often lied to our generation, but nevertheless he made us believe we could change the course of history inspiration
can come from strange and unusual places
Ok, on civil rights. Now he organ
as the take over of the local and eight cp chapter
recruiting new members and another guy. I think it was a irish priest
and then like a sort of radicalized black dude
The three of them said about taking over this chapter. That sounds like a really one of those bad. Like rabbi, priests, jokes got an Irish Catholic Catholic priest, black radical list and Abbe blocking due at the end of that city was eight
They they get new members to join more younger, radical members, and then they set up a direct action committee within the N, a SEP that that bypasses the old leaders
making decisions on stuff and meetings
from twenty people to hundreds of people.
Pretty soon the Worcester chapter of them. Cp is the most militant in the country. Well, okay, wow, interesting, so
they would fire lawsuits. They would pick it they would be caught the civil disobedience one matter,
the company who is doing business with abbeys dad's medical supplies store called up one day.
say: Abby was lying in the front of their trucks, refusing to let them go by.
Where's their rude as so the
a company so Abby's dad owns a medical supply store.
and there's a man and a medical supply company calls up. Its is hey, your kid is laying in front of our trucks, but not my abbe, Lord
dad is furious. His dad thinks it's
in that he's doing this absolutely hates it, but
not going to stop. He published
activists pamphlet on how to get stuff done. He raised money to send to people protesting for civil rights in the south.
A Abby went to Mississippi himself in July nineteen sixty five
The FBI
keeping and filing started making reports and filing them on the day he left
already been tapping his phones because of all the stuff he was doing in Worcester,
Mississippi, he taught at a freedom school and then he marched at least once a day. He would often get arrested.
and then, when marching to work. Sorry is over that's what man thing is. You should have walked and not march
we, but I wasn't. It was more of a trot, I'm just in a rush. Your knees were up a little bit and that's an early. Its might look like in May. I show you my march stance. My march stance is this. That is marching
It says Trotting
the trials. This is the south. We don't have trotting here, that's an arrest,
we're rescuers each
I for black people.
I was trotting your movie ned this time, but I marked for black people by a black people in a movie yeah yeah you're under arrest
it face face sheets of Christ.
So smart now are you that's right,
dear, so what
organizing.
In New York City in the eighties, in Worcester Worcester. So when he returned to Western, he knew tons about organizing and protesting, and he if he was all doing this in the S n c c, which is the student nonviolent coordinating committee, and so that's a
more young raw
I call group who thought
Nl came his moving was going to slow so right so more on the Malcolm X and.
things need a more Malcolm X, actually a little more like yeah. Let's just get shit done. We don't have time for your slow, bullshit struggling
Carmichael was one of those leaders. Abbe became friends with them, Carmichael Open.
I realize the term black power which included black self reliance and using violence as a means of self defense. So
they were actually together at the Newport Folk Festival and Abbe Instinctly were beat up together by cops.
One of a best friends song over that Catholics
I ask that no, each other cause we're back as friends.
You know you don't really have a good friend and unless you're beaten, bloody, bloody by cops together I mean that's sorta how so
it now is really starting to get going Abbey and she went to their first people, peace, protest together and western protest. That's our! I take a very high.
all steps of Congress.
Puddles of urine everywhere. The people
It was at home those different things. Just like carrots,
so this is a time and when you didn't protest wars in America, it just wasn't done. You were just immediately a traitor and a communist like that. That was it the cops
did nothing when local white guys beat up the protesters crazy. How could that just hard to put that
And then added starts experimental more with drugs. An old friend Manny is now an army psychologist, and the government, of course, is doing Ellis de expert
So they have access,
so Manny and Abby start doing acid
Nineteen sixty six.
and the drug company that is working for suddenly realized how little he was actually working and he was fired.
So all this time. All the studies doing he's been working on
what happened when he went to the south.
However, you still work in my adds quite a meeting savvy so but then go
over your work?
here and well. It doesn't appear that
Did you move to Mississippi? No, that's just a filing,
Error,
then here working pretty hard put it about fifty hours a week, love this company love. It still model
Evidence to suggest that you are a full time radical at this point.
Oh, my god, your head just got five feet.
Just a just. What? What does that? Well,
nothing I'm good man. I'm writing it out. Look okay,
what we are in drug sales? That's
we do here.
Yeah. I know I know I know. Let me let me finish. Please stop.
opening your eyes so wide for a minute? Just your
and there's no need to wave in front of that. But when you wave what we're looking at C r after Abby Abby look, listen
Looking for someone who had actually work for the company were all how can for someone we all my tent get off the desk, get offer the goddamn desk.
I was we are there. We are
looking for someone who is going to work for this company
make coming a pic. No, it's you ve already been hired by the company we hired. This is not have hired meeting. We hired you,
Let me just say one thing: I don't think anyone's one
did anyone else. I think they were all were all eat
there's, no one higher or lower. There were no. You are absolutely higher than I am
in the echelon on of the company,
as far as what is going on with you.
clearly on drugs. You've not been working.
Since we had you hired, you move the Mississippi, even
waiting for the NAACP.
your salesman God.
I'm looking at you a lot of your receipt say I owe me, but the fact is that even me
It means I owe me like this is just a unicorn drawn in crayon,
wanna things I owed me. I said: look, you are terminated guy, that's it you're done
good I can I can I just as your question now. I really would. Rather, if you didn't,
Can anybody really be terminated? Absolutely you right now.
I do a lot of money and yet
I'm still here right so have I been terminated? Yes, we're at the end of this
You will now leave okay get out
Do you want me to like just
break off into molecules. I don't have
tools to answer the question you just asked.
have a tool that have you answer the question
That is what they were out now now put this on your term. Put it.
Your tongue.
Bearing down arrow now on the map with the power now now now mile, through about hey. So I was talking to Abby and like while I was firing his ass. He made a great point
I actually all just galactic rainbows pulsating through these forms bitter that real at all in the soul is actually what lies baby even solve the fucking guy man. That's what we're after so
if I were a guy I'll, be I made it the fucking CEO dude, wow whoo. So
let's get you off, it does get fired,
and he didn't David.
Just hear the ready I know, but in any Ganz is sealed. Now it happened so
he gets fired and when he gets
He turns in his company car and that's when they realized he had s and see see
personalized license plates.
That he that he
if he hadn't a non violent them
What's the militant version of application Jesus Christ? How did we let this happen?
and then they realise that he had paid for the plates with his expense, account God, dammit, I put aside
I just love, I answer
Whether he's living in a time when it's it's
comprehensible to a company that someone would do there.
And he's just like what
they'll notice I can like that is where you going
now that it is it that is always enviable of like to go back to tat these pilot being a murderer before DNA. It's just like too
able to like have the ability to choose
wow. This system is actually so easy to cheat
so Letty Bruce dies and if you don't know about that, he was basically slowly killed. His spirit by police and
Abby really identified with Lenny Bruce?
Brother believes Bruce's death urged Abbey to get more involved and then
Eddie and Sheila split up again,
He moves to Serious York City and, as he's driving in New York City, he tells the guys riding with that. He
I quote a kid shortstop
being called up to the majors, so
he's thirty. Three years old he's been an activist for ten years and now he's like I'm going to fucking die time ship.
so an ivy. Sixty six is going off. It's the sixties, the sexual evolution, drugs, music, crazy clothes, long hair, it's all counterculture like were blown up out, he's not a hippie
looks like a straight laced: Essen
sissy staffer, like a political guy, you know undercover it's important habit, but
he's openness, stuff,
and he began saying he's a marxist
that, when are all white members were kicked out of the air and sea, see when Stukely Carmagnole became the leader and Abbe was live it
and he wrote an essay and there was published in the village voice and it said most
four people are still white and the struggle should be about class struggle, not racial quote,
trust is a sharing thing and as long as Stokely says he doesn't trust any white people. I personally can
trust him. It doesn't matter how beautiful he thinks I am
We had said publicly that he thought he was beautiful. So
Everyone reads this and tons.
I've just are passed in liberal,
I fucking love, it liberals are like yes, all these New York City, liberals love him. Abby gets a little bit of notoriety he's like the talk of cocktail parties
and then media starts reaching out to him for clothes to get him to tire shit about the essence. Easy he's like you get
you're. The problem
that's right Abe. We heard about your revolutionary tactics and we just had to have you over to the house.
you really are quite of warrior. Aren't you so then.
Abby writes a longer peace and said when any of these people are reached out. He told them quote. President Johnson is a bastard. This is a fact.
Coral and you are not members of my family
call Abby. I speak for the press when I say that only makes us want you more
a little while later, Carmichael and Abby found themselves together in someone's house in DC and Carmack.
ribbed him about writing the articles and then a gave him shipped back and so they're, just like old friends, again
disagreement, stillness
team, still fighting establishment, nothing has changed for them.
So avid, read a lot and as soon believe I wouldn't like it. I would like to think that that moment was set to music, where they both saying yeah,
something no absolute! We got the powers that are trying to fight you are
black, I am white, it's like the Sinatra, Stevie Wonder's gifts
so I've been reading a lot right for awhile and he now believes that communication is important today, as labour was too.
Marx's industrialized world, okay,
a modern revolution group headed for the Aviv,
station, not the factory
If you are serious about politics, you could not ignore entertainment, because then
Not taking it seriously that sprint right so quote:
if we were the tv generation? Wasn't there a way of speaking that evoked visual images rather than spewing forth dead words in rhythmic relief
His procession that bounced off
the eardrums and dissipated into empty space
so he's understanding he's like
IRS system sucks, but we need to use it while think it's. I think it's a
a sort of valid thing, which is
If, if you have a few go in eighteen, hundreds and you watch, you guys speak, why would
you do the same thing now when you have television, take it to the next place,
and when the country is completely captivated by it too, and it's being used, get is being used to manipulate. I mean that's. One percent
So he understands is a powerful new media. So at the time there was a group called the diggers.
and the diggers start using performances that saw revolution as a celebration. So they
courage, people through their performances. They point out
the terribleness of our system, the turbulence of capitalism, but they do in a fun way, hoping that will make.
aware of the problem and draw them in the same way right right.
Seriousness of protest, was out and replaced with fun one
I would say: Francisco was too slow to respond to a rat crisis. The diggers came to City Hall, blowing whistles dressed as pied pipers, okay
It can see. It's just it when you look at it through the prism of today like well. That seems crazy.
Today they built beat them
Idris, Elba and a soup kitchen and had made music
he's a condensing dancing at the soup. Kitchen table
He did a cash, a society, free, closed, free housing and our points.
They came to New York Abbey and heard about them and like their work, and he met them and then kind of cooperatives or thing. Ok,
with other activists, Abbie Open, a free store, the Liberty House, mostly clothes, but just free stuff- for people in the lower east side. Right now,
local media as is catching on Abbey and they love Abbe, he's very infectious per se.
New York posed called him their favorite happy with
Is it take on hippy like he was a good hippie as
These rights are right, same of the European right, never get,
we have a care there is.
avi came up with ideas to help people on the lower east side, like blocking traffic on South St Marks, place and replacing it with a walking ma and bands, but cops came in and beat everybody up and broke it up
so
sixty six Abby it pretty much become a hippie okay.
But he was organised in wanted a socio political movement as opposed to just dropping out he at once,
Let led a group to Macy's and they all had free clothes to give out to shoppers. But
can they try to give a sharper free peace,
They miss sharp rejected it.
Daddy. They showed that day we're living in a in class
who's the miserable existence compared.
the generous and accepting diggers who were
it's like yeah I'll, take it
meanwhile, Macy's was like we're, not sure how to handle this. We have wealth and other, not stealing our clothes there, giving it's not ok, but it's fine, but it's illegal but hard to prosecute. But it's
great like way to point because
You can argue with someone forever, but if you go in and say, oh, you need clothes, here's clothes and if go, no, then you're pointing out the they want
something more right: they don't just need clothes right.
one day, a kids in his neighborhood arrested for smoking pot, so Abby led a group to the precinct, demand their release and
I down a block the precinct door, he's just laying there and saying a recipe for Lang here, okay and then
captain says, look those kids, you guys are hippies. You have nothing to do with each other and then
It was detained, but not
did when he said I smoke part with the kids.
So he's trying to make it so he's with the kids right then like is a really legal grey area
still not arrested, then Abby says, look, I'm going to burn down the precinct and the cops like now, I'm not going to rescue you know, that's what a great game that must be to play would have burned down. The precinct
now I'm gonna kill. You know we're tell your family stop it, but now
burn your family burn knock it off, knock I'm going to blow hours
know how.
So in the lobby he yelled at the captain
rest home and the captain ignored him, and then he saw a trophy case and he kicked it to pieces.
the captain yelled now you're under arrest and Abbey old quote about fucking time. Jesus Christ
there it is. Surely there was like a black person going out cool, that's out, so that's how it works for their lets. Us that's cool. That's got what
What Abby was trying to show is that the police were trying is to divide the hippies in the kids and he was trying to say no we're all we're all done together.
He spends a night in jail.
Points out keeps pointing out. This is divide and conquer. This is what they do.
after this Abbe fall in love with me, the commissioner in nineteen sixty seven, she was airlines, muttering, that's right shoes.
And volunteering at the Liberty House the place where they gave away free stuff and pretty soon they live their living together. It's fast it's hot and heavy. She didn't she
never done drugs or bed demonstration, and he got her in all that really fast.
The diggers in SF held what was called a bee in in
January. Nineteen sixty seven in the park. It was a one day event. It was basically
the summer love would become, but it was one day right.
I am Abby and some others put one together for central Park and thirty thousand people shut up and they just hung out and they got high and they made out- and they just did shit right, yeah they're, just they're, they're being yet a b
Abby quote everybody high on somethin balloons, acid, bananas, kid sky, flowers, dancing kissing. I had a ball totally sought due to God.
This banana dude. This shit will fucking. You will trip your balls off. Did this banana is like.
next level. Nana dear Emma, was so much be right. Now, I'm like
not sure which one to peel anymore
he said you get high on anything. You wanted a radio
show for little while a guy called up and said I to get hired a grapefruit man,
cut in half and eat it
we're going to go back to the phone line scholar to to hey man. It's me again it
pretty complicated process man, you gotta, cut it open, and then you got a eat it and then say: goodnight to earth dude. It's blast off on equal terms,
Nineteen sixty seven a support. The Vietnam WAR March was being whatever was called support, a non angels. Lastly, a war.
the war, support for this,
the other is not,
but it's not a war. So they,
they call export Vietnam. I suppose so it's been
by the veterans of veterans of foreign foreign,
Yes,
who, I think who I think, if I'm not, who I think didn't
while Vietnam fats in afterwards, because it was never officially a war anyway, so dates
Chrome Pro probably March in Abby and another activist put together
hello group which they called the flower brigade.
Flowers, thereabout, let less than twenty of them and then, when the March started, they just kind of slipped into the middle of March.
Day before Abbott called the media.
he had told them where to be, and when to be there,
and sure enough at exactly that place the
Veterans of foreign wars started. Beating the shit out of the twenty
Flower brigade people and its
recorded by the media. So the pro go war guys look like fuckin monsters because he's the guy to the other people are carrying flowers and sang getting beaten range yeah
Abby, Anne and other activists manage somehow to become
the mayor's paid liaisons
between City Hall and the EAST village, okay, wow, so
as part of his job. He wrote a poem,
Called fuck this system, which was a guide, how to get free stuff and how to steal stuff,
which is what he learned from the diggers,
immediately fired after they do that by the man. That was not only so that
CO founder Peter Coyote was furious, quote Abbe, who is a friend of mine and always a media junkie
everything to those guys and they violate it. Everything we taught them. Abu back and the first thing he did was published a book
Blue, the hustle of every poor person on the lower east side? By describing
free, free scam. Then current a New York which were then
sucked dry by disaffected kids from Scarsdale
oh yeah, right so,
I mean
is his gold. Discover
To do that, obviously, his goal was to promote it to sort of show the
Also within the system, yeah
There's two different things happening. One thing is like just
base level how to get what you need
that to survive and get by Abbe saying it's a lever like like an undermine society and how it thinks. By doing this
So it's like I'm right. Yes,
and yes and involved in the short term completely undercutting it in writing.
What is more, I do yeah yeah. What is it
long term braided. You re right, of course, here Abbe.
this creating a revolution. By doing these things, he thinks that these things are going to have a profound effect and make people think about how the new things
people, never think about how they're doing things
Abby in Anita got married on June. Eighth and Abby came up with more and more ideas to get media attention and reach people
He hated it when people said he was
in attention for himself instead of what he was doing, which was being political and making points. He said
performances and events as organizing and revolutionary acts right. There are fine, but there are very serious at the same time in
I guess added called the New York Stock Exchange and said he was George maternity.
and he was asking about tours of the stock exchange,
George Judgment was
the mad bomber and he had bond
places in New York
being one in the forties and fifties.
Says. Like AIDS me, the bombing guy walk me through how the floors laid out there.
so hilariously, probably just a little inside joke from self
and they didn't notice. So
They gave the tour info and then just thirty George we'd love to have you
like a real, diligent fella, a bunch questions
August thirtieth at Tall France, twelve friends together and they dressed in the most exaggerated, crazy hippy clothes that they can find, which is
exactly
yeah.
three hundred one dollar bills:
and on the tour when they get to the gallery, which overlooks the stock exchange floor, sure take all the money out and they just throw it over.
guidelines averred, that's like bird feed, the pigeons and
Oh some of the stock. Buggers are like boo, but a bunch of them still scrambled and five year national monument. I don't even acknowledge that fucking dollar vodka suck your dick or I'll kick your ass. Just give me the dollar
That's a pretty fucking hilarious sight. These guys scrambling for us. Meanwhile, one guys dressed like a flower they're like what the hell is
Press has been alerted that the can have Timmy Carrot, tv cameras inside so it's all written but
spouses wall street-
Capitalist America, and- and
the truth is exaggerated when people,
right thing, some people says one hundred dollars bills. Some people say was monopoly money, but that all works until Abby million dollar bill ever thrown.
but you know his whole thing- is to like, if you can
through the system and make it seem fantastical and ridiculous than you're winning so that all
the versions of seven f after the
stock is shaping up. That happened at the New York Stock Exchange. They installed bulletproof glass around the gallery, because you know that George
just came in here and threw a bunch of money on the ground, a
It also makes this point right like then they perform prove glass, which is just like a stupid prank eating and that it was not a gun. That's it.
So it all plays into what he's talking about. Antiwar organizations are demonstrating
D C in October
daddy, comes up with the idea to
and the Pentagon with people and perform an exorcism to get rid of evil. Okay, okay,
think is favorite ideas ever get so
activists, J, Reuben, loves area, so much that he invites Abbe to be part of the press conference announcing the protests. Ok and
during the press conference, Abby just starts talking and adding to the idea
and he says that
exorcism is going to raise the Pentagon one hundred feet in the air. It's going to he's going to levitate the Pentagon and then
like invited this guy to your press. Are you like, but hope then hold on a second amulets slits answer questions right on the money we
make it levitate dude going to have it floating
over the whole building to rotate at once and put it backwards.
It's going to give it a six side, it's funny.
at this point how people can't understand they see
bullshit, but they don't see that the Pentagon is book
the having to invade
terrorists or whatever is equal
is bullshit. It's all what
doing is absurd. Thing is all bullshit so
you have the protests. He tries to forgot how many people would be needed to surround the Pentagon XIX than the China figured out, math wise.
at one point, he gets the press to report that he
trying to get a permit for levitation.
from
from the MAGIC Council he said
We are negotiating with generals and will probably only raise at ten feet if you got the permit
it's so where the one hundred feet is absurd. Abby you're not going to raise at one hundred feet. There's people doing business we can meet. You at five
It's got to twenty year. Twenty twenty is far too high,
If someone were to walk out there and thinking they were going to go for a little stroll through the park in the center well just would not work. We could do seven feet, but
again that says that some Lulli arm action or they look I'll meet you at ten I'll, do ten.
and
Inside yeah, we talked to the joint chiefs of staff for a second get it just to be clear for the last time they do not have actual joints on them. Yup he's saying it's dangerous yeah that was probably all right. Abby, yes, okay, yeah, ten feet cool, so I just get the permit. Then.
Right never drawn one of these up before will just get the stationary out here legally allowed to levitate
meant buildings. Whilst
inside
notary right, yeah
all my front real pleasure, you are out of your tits, yet take it easy take care now. So
the de please the so that
you see, police announced that they were going to use May on the protesters. If he starts to levitate it, we will make him immediately the second that it begins to break from its foundation. We will not hesitate to beat him. It's good report
Freedom of its aid worries about borders will beat the magic right out of this guy. So
if press conference and said he had a chemical that was actually called lays any spring.
On for couples and the journalists watched as they tore off their clothes and started having sex.
It's like it just was so much better to be a journalist then,
she's like imagine. If that's what you're cover you like the way you some press corps and then you're, just like my god
railing her
I have a question for the couple that sixty nine in place. I know to be armed with a bad sir, but if one of us could spit the thing
their mouths. Maybe they could what the Hell's happening.
Try to make her man
it make him come okay, just quote
and that that's come see. You m yet great great. Ok, don't stop at all
By the way yesterday was one of those things don't expect is apparent. When my son asked me what come was.
did you where you like well son, you workin,
I mean I broke in order for did you really here man we make.
We just got to get me in on those sessions. Man, I'm that you need a guy with this facial here to explain would come as I do that
we're gonna have a love, hate relationship with come a man. Do you now
got to it.
jerking off he said, Canada
and then the U S and then Mexico hears. What does Canada start with? I gotta see he goes com and it goes wait. What is
so not only, does your boy not know what come as he doesn't know. What said ways are or does it you know more than you yeah, but I read it all that black,
so
so Abbe is opposed
the materialistic world by creating an alternate fantasy for a world. That's what is right and you
So he believe TB
he got into people's fantasy world like that's what tv was was the thing that got in your fantasy world
If you want to deal with Americans, you had to address them on that level because they watch tv seven hours a day.
And so I to just two,
going directly to them. Isn't it, but you have to get into this crazy world that their existing in yeah to hypnotize
what your message, so he
leader Revolutionary had to learn how to use this medium October.
we first Abby just as a native american outfit with an uncle SAM hat. He took acid
and then levitated the Pentagon.
as he did poet, Allen, Ginsberg led tibetan chance and for
Rest of his life Abbe claimed he did raise the Pentagon at dawn after
they raised it. He held a twenty four hour, sit in on the Pentagon, steps.
Don't sit under it
hold it
What's the difference between saying
I raise the I raise the Pentagon
Is the Pentagon and saying something like we had to invade Grenada
The differences in Abby's lie. Nobody died.
Right. But what he's saying is they all lie? So what are you? Ok, so, the next month, thousands
protesters showed up outside the Hilton in Manhattan, because secretary
State Dean Rusk was giving a speech,
The demonstrators threw bags of blood some fakes,
I was blood they played so
it's battle and
It sounds of fire alarms
pretty soon so as I speak, the walking with tuxedos to see him speak and pretty soon
demonstrators on the street are fist fighting with people and tuxedos as well,
right, wingers, who came and then the cops joined in
so Abbe gets into a fist fight with a guy. He thinks he's right where turns out to be an undercover com and it gets arrest. Ok, now
democratic national convention
she Chicago and Anti war groups are preparing for it,
No one night, Jerry, Ribbon Nancy, crush on Paul Kroner,
we're in Anita and Abby's apartment, trying to come up with a new name for a new group. They wanted a new group to to sort of go
Chicago and make a big announcement. Do a thing and they're not
a hippie anymore, that being a hippie assorted changed its we're out of sixty seven like everything's, cannot become something different
like getting it's the same thing as like time is moving in crazy ways. Now it's the same thing. Then time is moving in crazy way, so there
in their artists, their society dropouts. They embrace crazy performances, so Paul
thinking in you and that there really just
if they're high and they're just trying to come up with different ideas.
it's when you make. He think he like holds up and he's exciting when you make a peace sign, it's a v, but then have you ready,
If your arm, it's a y,
and then someone else says what about the Youth International Party. Yet.
And then someone said, hippies were dead and Paul yelled yippee
when they came up with the Yippies
Do all left his papers are using it.
within a couple of weeks, it's
out them, and it's just going everywhere. The Yippies, the Yippies
Slater Newsweek Rights quote the Yippies are coming well, so yeah
I mean within a month. I mean they knew it.
I know how many even did this. He knew how to manipulate media.
And he knew how to make that a new thing
oh, my god. What's the new thing he knew they all want to write about anything. So they could. He took it.
Took what was a loose sort of correct movement, and they just said now we're a group. We're called this and everyone like. Okay, I can hate that I can love that, like they all just ran with it right.
have you said being and yet be. You were quote a flower child who's been busted in.
The word had all kinds of definitions and they can pretty much all work
in nineteen sixty eight, the Anti movement
anti war movement just explodes thousands and thousands of people are in the streets. A majority now opposed the Vietnam war. Abbe loves it. He saw
all the american crumbling, and this was a new beginning, the Yemen.
Held a Europe in so it's like to be in their calling at a european, and they think there
going to go down and this getting grand central station, though you do the same thing or soldier station. It's going to start.
on March, twenty second at midnight, so thousand
the people show up and they're coming
and when they arrive, they find cops, are blocking forty second street,
and there are hundreds of cops everywhere, but to give peace, aren't really
scared by the threat of violence like preview
people had
It changes in the
past couple years,
They get into the station its pact with the bees and then one
be climbed on top of a key, ask and rip the hands off the clock in the station and then the cops attacked they
is the shape of the building to corner the Yippies, so they could beat them cops
the kids through plate glass windows.
who has been so bad? He was beaten. Uncanny
conscience with,
and avert a brain was smashed? Allow
people are seriously injured, but the
did not run all night,
came back in waves and fought the cops and it went on for hours
So this was a new
This is a new phase. This is a new thing,
Tyler Durden in the basement.
Well as you've seen as we've seen lately. If you attack people, the crowds actually get bigger, so
leaving the hospital that night Abby went
Bob facets late night show where he spun it his way and he called it the grand central massacre and said Jimmy.
Fighting back was a turning point in showed. There are going to end the war and then the
at times printed what he said on the front page ferry.
I mean it is very I mean that's so effective. I mean
you can control media. You have power,
the linen Johnson's the Democrat in off.
and he says he's not running for reelection. So
Minnesota's, Eugene, Mccarthy and,
Kennedy both.
Came candidates. They both said they would end the war.
and then there's Hubert Humphrey. You says he will keep the work owing. So those are the Democrats
Abby doesn't believe changes coming from the establishment and he focus
on protest for the DMZ, so he's watching these.
Two candidates via for the Anti WAR vote and he's like? That's, that's not gonna do anything they give
event at the Dnc
Chicago was to be called the Festival of Life and the planet.
the festival to take attention away from attention away from the convention right,
So they want to show that there's a whole different thing happening right.
so on April. Fourth, Martin Luther king was a sad Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated. There were riots at one hundred and twenty six cities after and people who had,
not taken sides now took sides.
now everything just went down the Middle Abbey
People would see movement as an alternative which made him focus even more on organizing the festival so he's like
taken sides. I gotta get out there and do this thing
organised at the time with Columbia, university protest over military support and housing. So
kids reached out to me said: hey. We need help from some of the older guys with this thing, we're doing so. He goes up there.
The university saw that and the university decided to crack down on quote outside agitators
so Abbey and some experience protesters were isolated and then badly beaten by university, cops and arrested, and the cop
Did this in front of all the other protesters, so they get watch it happening. Okay,
so they're, sending a message in their heads, sending a message now
campaign, was pick up a moment momentum and started draining the hippie movement. People are like ok, this isn't the thing I'm going to go. Work on the campaign.
they believe in and they believe Bobby when he talks he's taken up. Their issues are believing in it. It's interesting to hear it. It is interesting when I think of him- and I think of that time
and I'm probably wrong, but I see it through that he was that he was going to I mean he he did. He have the
part of the Democratic Party and the left they,
if the Hippie movement is over. That's how many people are getting sucked into Kennedy's campaign quote by the end of May. We decided to
hispanic Hippie and cancel the Chicago Festival, but on June,
as Bobby was assassinated,
So now the real world is fucking, insane quote abbey,
U S political system was proving too.
Be more insane than yippee reality and unreality had switch sides calls.
and pouring into our office. They want to know one thing: when do we leave for Chicago right.
So all the anti war groups, which are there
the place right they get together and meet the leader.
it's a coordinated protest in Chicago
there's over one hundred groups summer pacifists, like mode
Some are more militant like the students for a democratic society and through
as Mayor Daley of Chicago is already scared off a lot of protesters. By just saying the cops are going to be violent, fucking kick the shit shit you
so on August aid, the european meat with death
deputy mayor and they submit an application for the fast,
of life to take place in Lincoln Park. Now they been trying to get permit.
To do the festival this whole time
getting any answers
and again now they do in person they get. No reply
get it. I made the idea shocking to be like we need a permit for our media.
I mean, I think it was just when
but it's also wages to fuck with them, because they think that
It keeps saying like Tom Tom Hayden. I can't remember if this is the movie a reality, but because I just watched
I just watched the Aaron Sorkin thing, but I can't remember, but anyway
they're. Basically saying like you,
the a permanent overcoming without a permit can we have a permit
not coming. If you don't have a permit, none that were coming without a permanent. Can we have a permit, and it just keeps going on like that, where it's literally just there's so many ways you can fuck with the ridiculous rules of the system to make the system look stupid. So do they
go ahead with it. Obviously, without the permit now
the first day, it's the name the first day
it's the leading up to the first day, there's more cops than
in the city itself. There
at twenty five or thirty thousand cops in a couple of thousand protesters and the cops are fucking hyped up. I mean you could imagine now. Our cops are mostly all on steroids. While these guys are are not but they're fucking fired up and they thought protesters
we're going to lace there
drinking water with acid, and then they believe that
it were going to pose as taxis and kidnap Dnc delegates and it turns out,
What they were doing was any yet be joke that was made there are taking is truth right
and again a lot about a lot of that. We see today with the cops the cops all that stuff to assure so
Abby realized. It would look better if there were far more cops than protesters because of how the inevitable crackdown would look on tv and as more and more protesters back.
Because a mayor Daley
became more insistent. The festival happened, so the less protesters award the more it was like. We really got to fucking. Do this, while the other guy
like our no should we are gathered here when we do it, we're amazingly outnumbered. So
on the twenty third two days before Abby holds a protest workshop in Lincoln Park. There's fifty yippies there
and there's about two hundred and fifty cops.
And so later that day the cops come out with signs and they post them around the park, and it says the
is going- have eleven Pm M curfew.
That day they also arrested Jerry Rubin sing,
Phil oaks- am they took their yuppie candidate for president, which was a large pay.
named Pegasus. The year candidate for president
was a pig named Pegasus. That's right! Okay, sure sure did he.
Nobody was running, for he did not
I have a lot of
speeches, so we don't know: okay, okay, alright, Pegasus
question village voice. Now, your four.
Policy has come under fire recently for the fact that you actually don't seem to have one
If Vietnam goes, what are three changes you would make and how soon would you be able to make them
Alrighty I get
got my quote of your unrest
My friend, you are on record,
I have a
So I am actually allowed to ask that question. So there you go good Lord
I mean I'd rather live under an authoritarian human swine. So the next day
there is even more difficult in the park, but two thousand and
The leaders decide not to break her few. They all have a meeting. Abbe is like we need
break curfew, but the moderate
in the abuse, Paul crashing,
kids were all those guys outvote him. They wanted
void, violence and abbeys like we're not going to avoid violence. So why are we not moving it and then
curfew as the
as demonstrators leave the park, they are all chased and then beaten by police, weird
So the next day was the official first day of the festival, white and now there's tons of cops in the park. There's tons of journalists Abby started
I like with the chief of police, who lets them use park, electricity for their rock, show that they want to put on a k
and so it goes on for a little while and then the chief disappears and
six thirty, which is
before eleven pm at six thirty,
Cost move in and just are beating all the EP is in the park.
I will read, there is a second there were. I was like you notice. I dont think the pool
is nowadays would even say yes to that part,
It's all just a trap. It's all yeah, now tv tv crews have come
to tape. What they thought was going to be ridiculous, a suspect-
of Europe is not respecting authorities doing that fucking in the park. Doing nasty things right, which is what Abbe wanted
he created this.
And to see of seeing how much a crazy you're bees or what they got-
was stark reality
So now the stories on the news are all about Chicago cops. Beating
so protesters brutally, I mean,
terrible, but it's even better for what you're, after yes
people all the country or horrify their base. Leasing, kids are seeing teenage kids being beaten and that night, at two, a dot m Abby called the deputy mayor at home, and
To quote: hey
as a gun, your police got to be the dumbest and most brutal in the country.
great, to call him at home, but again
he's just poking he's poking the fucking yeah yeah. Well I mean the truth is
that like, if you're, even with with
thing like this. The people in power and authority- they don't know the answer they they're, I mean they're constantly. That's that's. How they operate are constantly in fear that people going
take away the establishment, because that's what they thrive upon so
they don't know and when they see what's going on they're nervous, you know when they
people in the street. So if you have liked the balls or the dick in this case to be like hey, did you fuck up? It's like you are
that is going to be in their head. I've been they are going to be like their human. They are believe it or not
so the next night, a thousand demonstrators state Africa View and again with a process of maintenance. But when you big people, the response is they usually don't go away. They come back
This is a good sign of them being like oh you're, going to beat us for leaving the park one hour in the fucking park. Police attack, clubbing
tear gassing all over again news.
Or is it all,
again.
So it's all the same shit
the next morning he goes to
can park and Lincoln Park has part on the beach and he goes
the Age Park Zeilinger inspectors. There were two hundred protesters and there
canting in their meditating Abbe speaks club
What is going on here is very beautiful, but it was
But beyond the evening news tonight, the America,
mass media is a glutton for violence, and only shots of what is happening in the streets of Chicago will be on the news. America, camping
despite people, sitting and praying- and this is
fortunate reality that we have to face. We are community that
to learn to survive. We have seen what has happened in Lincoln Park. I will never again tell people to sit quietly and pray for change, big lesson so
He never been violent before this he'd, never added advocated violence, but the brutality in Chicago over these three or four.
is changing him completely
if he was told,
he getting arrested the next morning
when he woke up. He drew
walk across his forehead in pain to stop the
from printing is arrest pictures
fucking genius, and then he went to
with friends and, of course the cops came and he was arrested
that moment when he sits down before the cop show up, and he just got fuck on his head. You, you are right buddy now what
now. Why would they arrest adding? Well, because that's the night, the Democrats,
officially nominating Huber Humphrey, so its pre emptive and the guy they
gone is Abbe
fuck enhancement right. That's
the guy they want off the streets on this night, because that guy is fucking
waving this like a guy, a conductor in an orchestra, so he's now gone.
That night. The Democrat demo
Let's do nominate Hubert Humphrey as New news crews. At the same time get footage of protesters being brutalized by cops.
so Abby help show help, show the brutal inhumanity of the? U S, government, which he believes is going to lead to change. He got what tv was he understood. Tv
His brother quote the head of CBS News, said: Abbe, understood television better than the network's did at the time
and then he was in fact had of the networks
Abby knew that you had to make the news not just talk about it right, so
Humphreys. Now the Democrats
a war candidate
Nixon was the GEO Ps Pro war candidate.
So you have a war that is
majority are opposed to, but the two candidates-
you two opposite are chosen by
parties are
For the war,
Hey protesters voted for Dick Gregory instead because they were so angry others
didn't vote at all.
Savvy finishes. Writing his book revolution for the hell of it
The house on America.
Typically committee, then calls Abbe to testify about what happened in Chicago, and
watching tv and he sees a country singer wearing a shirt that is made out of american flag.
and he decides
That's the shirt he wants to wear. So he gets the exact same shirt.
The first day the hearing, some bees are justice
witches and in there, in the aisle and they're moaning, sure sure sure
Abby,
walks into the building and is holding a yo yo he's also yoyo championing when he's a kid,
it's a tells you how packed this story
so the information that the fact that it is a young child and has a YO yo? I can get as a throw away.
And he's immediately arrested for desecrating the flag
lots of the door. You can't wear it.
A law had been passed that summer against desecrating the flag. So there's a struggle. The cops rip, the shirt from his back,
well, that's what she knows, which team
going to happen and that's why, on his back, he had the
Viet Cong flag painted? Oh, my god? What
He was also charged for resisting arrest and Anita jumped on a cops back and she was also arrested, so they
it can be to a maximum security, pet penitentiary where they D lost him and took a blood SAM
against his will and used a dirty disposable syringe. Oh my God, Jesus denounced the next
A Jerry Reuben came shirt lists with the Vienna com, flag, bandanna on and carrying a toy m16, and he sat in the gallery. What's
so they join me that would sound a lot crazier if we hadn't seen pictures of Michigan Courthouse and if we weren't having an election where armed citizens were going to be showing up soon, but that's still crazy
I think a lot of people guilt still don't get this about protests. A really great example of the modern days. Kaepernick Kaepernick,
You show the world what your enemies are by doing
action a simple action and then your enemies react and show themselves to be the monsters they are spent themselves out of control and cap.
act has who can
look at the NFL again the same way. You can
Look at the fans of the NFL the same way. He is completely
painted those human beings.
Really good protest action does so when they were the Viet Cong flag, the react
to such a stupid. Little thing will always be more insane.
yeah and and then also Kaepernick continue, I mean he by just being he continues.
ruin the NFL
there is just suggests year by year by year, that he's not in the league,
it is used very the very
distance of a skilled quarterback that took a team to the NFL not being allowed to play, because he kneeled makes a mockery of your entire system.
two months later
he was hospitalized with hepatitis. Most probably
I the syringe
crazy. When the flag
Shirt case goes to trial. His defence
attorneys! Ask if
uncle SAM was
Ass, the flag, when he marched, judge
fourth and fourth of July parades.
and the prosecutor argued Uncle SAM was a national symbol and a national symbol could not
create a national symbol by wearing a national symbol. Now so
will you buy really simple actions, make a mockery of your system when it's based on I mean what is the flag? It's a piece of fucking cloth at the end of the day when you start really holding onto it, you start to look like a fucking moron at some point. Yeah, when yes
when, when you're valuing the life of cloth versus humans,
you're being people. Can someone wore a flag like you, ve completely lost year? So
Abby explained the arrest. The judge quote, I was playing with a Yo Yo and I had on a shirt. Then it was
while the american flag,
or the shirt, because I was going before the Un American Activities Committee of the House of Representatives and I don't pay
We consider that a marriage
committee, American and I dont
Actually consider that committee american- and I don't consider that House of Representatives, particularly representative
where are the shirt, to show that we were in the tradition of the founding fathers of this country.
So true I mean that that's a it's like when, whenever that, when people tell
people to leave the country because they don't love it.
like that's literally what this country was founded upon right,
like. This is literally people who hated the country and left and then created the country.
You love and her saying, get the fuck out of
does the house representatives represent us when their merrily millionaires they now these people are all rich. It's the house of Non representatives. Yes, he said the king
ups grabbed his Yo Yo, and it was pulling his finger hurting him in that
to the struggle and he was worried about his fingers so
he was found guilty and
after he said quote, I only regret that I have but one shirt to give for my country. Well,
and my best have been nice to get into the Yeoman Newt. Now Mister hoskin them. What technical you we don't round the world will be taken for a walk were words. What was the actual technical detail?
it feels to like. I was trying because they were going break my yoyo finger well now. That is a good defense
appeals court would eventually reverse the decision, which led years and years later, to kid rock dressing in giant glittering flat, glass. Oh Jesus,
straight leg: that's what did it? He broke the whole fucking thing I know yeah, but I mean when people think it's just so dumb, because when some people think of kid rock, they think
pure adrenaline patriotism and your
yeah, but if it happened and the person wasn't saying the things you like, then it's a crime and.
and it's very funny in the Chicago seven movie this on Netflix and the Aaron Sorkin one
he has a scene where he's wearing an american flag, but doesn't do anything with this? That self
fucking annoying and well, because
The movie is a bit of a hit piece on Abbie, Hoffman right of course. So
that I mean, obviously you and Josh, fully recognise how much that guy has broken the
Kind of a liberal- but I mean it's fucking, crazy, so Jager,
Hoover who's, the FBI emperor.
Urging the Chicago protest leaders to be prosecuted quote
a successful prosecution of this type would be a unique achievement for the Bureau and
it seriously, disrupt and curtail the activities of the new left. The just
environment at this point is still
Lyndon, Johnson's Justice Department and a report comes
That basically says it wasn't
protesters riot, it was a cops riot
so the Justice Department is like we're not going near it.
The same time was how to go to Chicago to face
charges on the other things here, he was arrested for and
Sometimes you get fined. Sometimes you get a week or two in jail
and then Nixon was elected.
And that means a new justice department and
twentieth
nineteen sixty nine.
Eight leaders of the Chicago
protests were charged with conspiracy to riot.
If it down your Rennie Davis, Tom Hagen, J, Reuben Lee Weiner
John Prine's, Bobby Seale and Abbie Hoffman, they,
wanted to show the left as a dark conspiracy
trying to overthrow the government of the? U S.
The charges came from a civil rights
legislation that was passed in which southern Democrats,
added an amendment to
it a crime to cross state lines to incite or promote violence. So it's a
political prosecution
It is, it is not
civil rights bill, it's in its in addition to a civil rights bill that makes it more difficult for
protesters to go to the south to help black people get their freedom and get their rights right.
Now, that's being, and now that's being used against the left, which is generally what happened. Sandy laws in our country
arrogance, terrorists or another. They eventually used against the left. That's the history! Anyway,
Santa Part one. I want to take this up to next E
you sure cargoes seven trial and
I won't be able to understand who Abbe Hoffman is before they watch.
source is the book run, run run by Jack, half men, the child of Abbe
admin shirt by Paul Krasner history.
the trial of his shirt.
I do not think stay safe out there. Where we do, I mean we used to say we signed cars, but we don't go inside cars,
don't do that anymore. We can't we dont go. We don't sign cars because we don't fucking go anywhere, because we can't fucking go anywhere because everything so fucking fucked
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