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I am dave and anthony, and you are listening to the dollop on american history podcast. Each week I took a subject for american history and I read it to my friend gareth reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is about. He doesn't
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He, the one thousand people say this is clearly not gary. Gary Dave, okay, someone or something is tickling. The firefighters- and this is not going to become a particularly quiet, uptown way of life. A bunch of religious virgins go to mingle and do what re done for the date october, nineteenth eighteen, ten little boy, Cassius clay was born to general green clay and his wife sally clay and claremont. There hooray for his age, yeah their home in the richmond area of madison county kentucky, okay, general
Green clay was a decorated soldier who served in both the revolutionary war and the war of eighteen, twelve, two great wars.
Two of my fan- favorite wars. I love those green clay was a very successful.
land surveyor who, in addition to amassing more than forty thousand acres in various territories, also had several lucrative businesses, including distilleries taverns and ferries, and it was all over that shit. Linking things are good.
Get you to the tavern and back from the top of the river I mean it might take a minute cornered. The market should have made. He made the booze. He brought it to the tavern. He got you to the tavern over the river up later in life, you'd be elected to the kentucky legislature. Green was a contemporary of Daniel boone, okay friends with the boon yeah. Alright, his boonen, like boone green clay, had
from virginia to explore the country as a seventeen year old and end up working as a land surveyor in kentucky back, then land surveyors were entitled to take half
of the land they surveyed payment for their services boom, because there are so many indians trying to kill them and bears and shit that they've you've got half the fuckin land to get so
Anybody who a land surveyor should have been rich, but a bunch of them didn't cause. They just would like fuck off and go kill a bear it'd be like. Where would I do? Whoops
career decisions
as my salary was a calvinist baptists who raised a children to be honest and to fight for what they believed in what they thought was right
Can a cashier later said that he owed his character development to her stern upbringing. He was the youngest of six children k when he was a teenager. A slave girl named Mary who was his childhood playmate, stabbed to death a cruel, overseer named pain in a panic after he threatened her. I'm sorry the name was payne is the guy. The foreman's name was payne, that's a little aggressive as far as
It's a little over the top to hire guiding pain to watch over the sun. Would you can have a regular name and inflict pain? What what about Larry Larry Larry's good?
Larry. He really inflict pain, that's better than a spirit of pain and expand. Your saying he actually gives
he's such a sweetie redundant, such softy mary, was acquitted by a jury of twelve whiteman, as it was clearly self defence, but caches his brother, who was in charge of the farm at the time, was,
I should to sell her down the river. Do you not selling down the river means she's going to it. It was the worst thing that can happen to slave
He would basically at auction, see grown men cry.
And because sailing down the river meant they were going deeper into the south, where there were its worst dolores right, like I think kentucky they were treated much better than they were down in mississippi.
it's it's amazing when you gotta miss kentucky
I just thought I'd get Jackie marries fate would affect cash. The rest of his life caches, attended the madison seminary saint Joseph column, college and barge town
called to similar the school hartford you'll get through well there. He got word that his father was dying.
Rushton, while, while fatherland deathbed, he pointed toward the family cemetery and said I have just seem to have come through the door. Then he died wow. What the fuck that
I fucked up there. I read that as a group, I really want my last words to be something just super super yeah. Look at all the dogs and just die. You know just leave him with something like what does he mean the peppercorns here
No, they are throwing treasure era. General clay was generally
children as well, given them slaves and land. He even freed some slave.
giving them twenty dollars and fifty acres of land? That's I made
pretty nice yeah it back in the day on the speck,
we're dealing with that's pretty nice? That's pretty nice cars, but, of course the weird for the other ones are like wait. Yeah,
Is there be a slave yeah yeah visit
business you know of fifteen?
He had to be free there, s ear.
a little lottery you're on the fuck off part of the way
get outta here, Payne's dead yeah, I know he's dead, but maybe you could have a new paint like a windowpane sure, is next attended, transylvania, university in lexington and then yale. That's the second time
I have heard of transylvania. You know it's the second time. I don't remember what we previously something talked about, but there yeah there are. I wonder if it's still there, it's a terrible name for it. If you like, if you are
your doctors office, and that was a degree on the wall you billing regular all knows day. Videos to draw some blood go to suck
you're right. I mean it was at yale and eighty.
Thirty one. He heard an anti slavery speech by abolitionist william, lloyd garrison. It changed the trajectory of his life from then on. Cassius clay spent a great deal of his life opposing slavery and working for it's end. Alright good climate, his first anti slavery speech on February. Twenty second
Thirty two during a celebration of george Washington's birthday, clay was an emancipation ist, not an abolitionist. They did not get along. Ok, where at emancipation is
sought to eliminate slavery by gradual legal means, while Abul abolitionists wanted slavery to end by any means possible cut, so they could there'll be more violent or you know, so it's didn't care how it happened. It just happened had to happen now difference between martin luther king and Malcolm x. That's what we're talking about a girl who met their methods, sometimes included violence and a disregard for the law of the united states, claiming the emancipation is including his cousin sen.
It clay who is known as the great compromiser, oh and the great compromiser and lincoln hope to maintain the law and the constitution. While reading the country of slavery by peaceful means. That, of course, did not work. Talking yeah right can't believe that
people own slaves are usually totally reasonable up. If I got her share for sure. After yale clay returned to the home, his father built, which had been left to him aquileia, he also had slaves because the will stipulate he could not
rid of them for several years. So this is weird. I super against owning you, but
Are you really something you have to honour year? You have to honour will, but, like I mean that's what I'm learning zone
far as that. My last words are going to be nuts I'm going to put crazy shit in the world you can put whatever you want. My son needs to be in a pool for eight months after I die. You can wear one shoe for the rest of your life, a jingle keys for the next three weeks after my death plays it wasn't until eighteen, forty that he was legally able to free the slaves, as well as the other ones that were left him by his aunt patsy, like they were just at this point. It was like a practical joke yeah
another prank for more slaves, her gosh! Here we go. That's just starting to feel like. I was getting rid of some of them by eighteen, forty four. He had freed all of his slaves about fifty thousand dollars worth, which is a super, weird and awkward thing to say for you to just to just put a price on people,
it's very upsetting. Oh we've read about fifty grand worth of humans, it's just or yeah man. I wonder why that was such a horrible time. Oh there goes fifty grand
woo we're not going to see that money again. No fifty grand is literally walking down the hill you're going to get some new shoes to this one, seven
years before the civil war, but he was not able to free all the slaves, because his father had left some two caches: eventual children. What that's that's fucked,
Now, that's so so he skimming a generation. Yet he couldn't get rid of his slaves because he had given to his kids when they turn eighteen or whenever sorry. Those are.
Those are a trust fund and the rest you you're, going to have to wait. Sixteen years, listen
the bill, everyone's free, except you're, sort of a trust fund slave. You see this baby, that's your master,
you know what I haven't come in a lady yet, but when I do that's gonna be your box. Please hurry up again
yeah well, gonna come sooner or later happen, then it'll be from the coming
I'll be eighteen new, then, after that you get
the rest of your life to do what you like IRAN, which known as a lungs,
all right all right. A cash is even bought slaves from neighbours and free them. Ok to address that's good most of the now former slaves he gave jobs do on his property. This did not sit well with his slaveholding neighbours.
as you can imagine, cause they like really you're, going to let that you're gonna give them money for down what we just gave you them. I let them live yeah, but it's what I'm calling a job. It's just how backwards was that we're
upside down. How dare you not own people, you, son of a bitch, my god did you hear he's paying them for labour
because she is not only people my wife's painted clayton
re, enter transylvania university to get a lot agree, while he was there, he met mary, jane warfield, daughter of a doctor in one of kentucky. First horse breeders, the family, especially the mother, did not like it
Yet there are little. They relied pathetic. For my tat, their pro slavery will also, of course, just before
I should marry were married a former soon
of marries named
dell array declarations are sent her letter in it. He said
caches had to flower to young woman who had to move to texas in disgrace, and then he slept with his slaves. Clay went to louisville to confront decked confront declaration. He showed declared the letter and asked for an apology.
made this. Our facebook would have just made the summit so my message or how about a tweet a prick? What up girl none was coming, so clay beat the shit out of the man with a hickory sticky brought just for just such an occasion.
We're almost forgot my baby boy. Look about this work anywhere, where a friend of clays held of others with a gun, while clay proceeded with the beating Jesus after catches.
Done, he told the declaration where he was staying. If he'd like to continue quickly. Word came the declaration requested a door boy,
twice. They tried to share their knowledge slice they try to do, but crowds showed up and were too large for them to go on howsoever.
People can they all came down the watch, I'm glad we got away from the time the too many people came.
Was a sport yeah. Well, let's just it was probably jockey to get in the front. So if there's a crowd- and you shoot- you might hit someone in the crowd right- let's shut up to the fuck, you don't want to fucking, see that the idea yeah. You want the bench seats, not behind the goal. No, it's great to see back here because the bullet comes at you. Oh my god. I just see the downside to my plan. Finally declaration suggested they dual on the day. Clay was supposed to be married, of course,
perfect total fuckin bullshit move clay went off to get married and assumed a declaration was serious and want to dual he'd request. Again. He married Mary on February twenty six, a couple days later, word came from Louisville. That decorate was
Alan clay, a coward for running away and said he would give cash is a cow hiding if he ever saw him again, that's bullshit what a little bitch move, total total bitch but yeah! Oh you can,
I do this on the day of your wedding se, I don't want to kill a guy on my wedding day for those caches decided to pay decorated visit on a trip back from ST louis is visits by the way are not good that once in Louisville he packed his pistol and waited it in declaration hotel lobby.
when decorate walked into the hotel. He turned tail and ran off clay waited an entire day, but the dual was not forthcoming, so he left the next day. Word came. That declaration had slashed his wrists in the tub. What yeah well he's just a full on pussy he just didn't, but why not? At least at that point go for the dual option? Maybe he may I dunno? Maybe he knew he couldn't win it or puts the. I mean
So I mean that's really: who is the cowards air? Well, he! Maybe, when I won I'm dead yeah you lose. You couldn't shoot me wow! That's a bold out here. I can't
be dad I'll, be in the top of the pavilion Adele up of my blood clay entered politics was elected to state representative for medicine county in eighteen. Thirty, five,
He lost the next year and then was elected again in eighteen, thirty, seven, which was amazing because it was anti slavery, views his speeches, one and praise for speaking skills.
but made many enemies for their contents. Speaking against slavery in central kentucky, he was threatened. Often he duly often she's. His wife was the only other anti slavery person in his family. We didn't have kids are right, he was started, cracking up and are still so. It's just kind of them against the rest of the gene YAP all around her family and right most of his family are those causing a bunch of lunatics, not wanting to own human
that humans. Can you believe this in eighteen, forty, during his campaign for a seat in the assembly general assembly and his opponent was robert wycliffe wycliff was from a wealthy family and was pro slavery during a speech, wickliffe insults
mary clay and cash is of course, changed into to do. Of course, the door was held on may the thirteenth eighteen, forty one, both clane wickliffe, missed each other three times at ten paces.
and what kind of gun I mean where they shoot and then the handed to a guy who reloads it and packs it with a powder just so big round ball at it and then packs it and then hand it to them and they shoot again.
Should have had more on deck. They should have had more pestilent ready to that mean only they did, but but from what I've read somewhere in between you're just gonna like so I just
looks like you are you wait? I am a little bit heavy. Did you see the game
I did, and I wonder if I go back to shit
the catches wanted to keep going for a fourth round, but his friends talked him out of it after the duel he pretty much gave up dueling because he received a letter from his mother telling him life is too valuable to door. She used a lot of religious like yeah. What are you doing, god
John this earth, I already blast with shining, although we have yet another dual, I'm getting
the door that officer in the army on his way to mexico. Ok came later, Robert Wickliffe was still out for blood. However,
in eighteen, forty three, he hired a man from new orleans like this is the guy who insulted him. I was just going to still want why. Why is he said because he's the anti slavery so they're, just in a fucking
It's all right. It's just does remind you so much of liked. If someone says,
you think today you can't like they say they, freedom of speech, but you say something:
the journey of I don't know yet so you still have her blood and eighteen. Forty three wycliffe hired a man from new orleans named samuel brown to attack caches branch. Champ chance came at a political rally in fayette county on august. First, as clay was speaking to the crowd, brown called him a liar liar and clubbed him with
bralette doing. Okay, so worst hitman ever have a whack. Can I talk to you for a second? What does your goddamn plan? He was well, I called him a liar and then I hit him with my umbrella. It's like a batman episode, but he must look. He had to walk up to the stage and hit him like, or maybe he was standing on, the
Somebody had to like walk up close square well, that might have been his plan. Maybe is that like, if he had a gun, people would maybe be like get get down, but an umbrella people like, I think, he's expecting rain. What is he doing? I don't know while he didn't have a gun, because he then drew his pistol and fired at clay's chest. Alright, that's bad right! Back off yeah! Luckily, click kept his favorite weapon, his bowie knife inside of his coat get the fuck out the bullets struck, the knife and bounced off harmlessly clay was naturally enraged holy shit. He pulled his knife out and went to work or, as he later state stated quote, cut away in good earnest ooh.
that's deep quote: brown has his skull cut to the brain in several pieces, one
was nearly cut off. His nose was slit, one I was cut out and many other wounds the entire time the attack was taking place. Spectators were hitting clay with hickory sticks in chairs, but the fight
continued. What what browser you use? Browns own friends, we're so concern for his life that they grabbed him and threw him over offence into a creek.
Eight feet down my friends. I always said that he would be radically is reached at me. In fact, is there may be a better plan budget
about stopping him. The craig somehow brown survives injuries
Is he then sued clay for mayhem? Oh my god, because people are awful. That's crazy
I made me, look crazy, which produce, kill him.
Not a lot. I want a public debt which journeymen the battery
the travellers, Helen, fiat county and clay hired his incredibly popular cousin henry clay. As a lawyer,
henry was a senator and as love dick in Kentucky as cautious was hated. Naturally, cassock caches was acquitted.
sam brown, who had a vastly different appearance. Now what is the difference?
No, I or brain or ear
It was always girl. He had week later out of his mind, the flaps of skin hanging off his head and ears, slit nose and a one eyed yeah well other than that, though, SAM brown was killed in a steam
but explosion in louisville in eighteen. Forty four, which point you heard him say
god, it's over you in this autobiography cashes caches, would call brown the bravest man. He ever fought,
but that well the casual seemed like a nice. A very respectable party respects is apparently debts, but its proponents must
thus have been a long line of huge pussy speech. This next gray became a newspaper publishers. Launching a paper called the true american. He was. One of them
a few anti slavery newspaper men in the south, the wealthy slaveowners saw his paper as a great threat, mostly because it made very good points about
slavery, don't be logical right now I get was morally wrong. It was cruel, resulted in lower wages for the working class in undercut everyone in the economy, except for the wealthy, its culture
down Economic struggled up it's in the first month of the papers existence he received a death threat written in blood. Woe. You are manner than the autocratic hell. You may think you can all and cursed the people of kentucky to your in famous course. You will find when it is too late for life. The people are no cowards. Eternal hatred is locked up in the bosom of braver men, your yours better! For you, the hemp is ready for your neck. Your life cannot be spared plenty thirst for your blood are determined to have it. It is unknown,
who, your friends, if you have any and in a way you little dream of signed the revenges. If you're gonna write a letter and what I'm going to assume as your own blood yeah, that's cliff. Now that we don't I mean that's all you pray pass out during that right, there's a lot of work, but it was really.
Written it's well written, but you can also be like a fact face. Stop revenges! Do I wrote one that says: hey fuck face.
it, and then I have the longer one which will do you think this is DR five. My doctors concerned up so weary with clay open
better open the paper. He had already taken precautions against those who might attack him. Okay, he had the doors of his newspaper office. Fortify was sheet iron and the windows barred. He kept the building stocked with loaded weapons and iron pikes iron pikes, just in case elephants came in all right. You don't know
Oh, I love iron pikes. I mean that's quite a if some guys have guns. Okay, look if some guys break in yeah and you kill him. What are you going to leave the bodies know you cut the head off and you put it out in front of the office first as a message: does it really message bike yeah yeah? He also. He had also purchased two mortar cannons in cincinnati, which he intended to use against unruly
abs. He was really waiting for the fucking hammer to companions in the newspaper, cannons lew, granted that you ever see the show Lou grant in the seventies no yeah, it's a ed Asner is a star but yeah. He had he's a newspaper man. He had cannons well, you've. Always got to have
I think most papers have cabins magazines to most, yet he also filled the walls with gunpowder.
And have a mozilla pet way that escapes chap had built on the top of the building. He told the printers that, if the mark of a mob ever broke in, they were to go through the hatch and simple,
the late, but to yeah
ok first of all goes bright. Ok, so you get in their stairs so that you go up and you climb down I've learned of the new blood. I guess light the views on the back of the little right, of course, because the buildings
our work, but do you not? Is there not a concern that having
gunpowder in your walls could potentially blow up you inside of it. Just by feel I happenstance, I feel like it's against fire regulation, yeah it's gettin, but could someone like each year, your office, very explosive
If anybody comes, if not, as does spoke again here that madrid is enforced,
in august he came down with typhoid the citizens of
I knew he was too ill for a fight and crowds of sixty storm. The office showing his employees fake court order. They dismay of his press and shipped to Cincinnati when play was well. He just resume printing is paper and then sued the leader of the mob. He won two thousand five hundred
wow clay decided to fight in the mexican american war in eighteen? Forty six wait! Yet he had typhoid no after he was better okay. His wife was not pleased, but he believed that if he fought the war it would help his political chances back home and you'd have a better ability to fight slavery.
Claims fell officers. But now remember on the way to mexico. He got a dual another round of gatt met mid yet also at the office shotgun, but that was just the pledge that was a good two thirds just the clay
Clay and his fellow soldiers were almost immediately captured by the mexicans. The two majors leading his group had neglected
for centuries on the road. While everyone slept
Should we here,
leave a guy to watch now nodded zero get some rest a server, but a crash out long data. Morrow. Gentlemen: at one point: the mexicans where to kill we're gonna, kill all of the men, because one or two scaped, but clay stood up and told the mexicans to only kill the officers like himself. He ripped open his shirt and showed them where to shoot pointing it is checked
Very bald fucking manly man very ball, just up just up the manning, the manliness one hundred percent I mean I just couldn't ever imagine being a situation where you're going to die being fairly comfortable, let alone being limited,
I know from my own heart beat him write about here. Is a good site, try to pretend I'm dead yeah! That's what I always thought that that move. If there's blood around you you just sort of,
some of the data hundred on general over you do not.
Let me go ruddier use. May I didn't
fucking heart. How about those were an idea, just kill guys like me, let the little
go, the mexicans were impressed.
with his bravery and they didn't kill anyone caches clay. Was
a war here, yeah right get, let's get him every legitimate war here.
Speeches were given honoring him. A resolution was passed for his valor by the kentucky legislature. This was all amazing for a man who is deeply despised in his home state because we fucking hate you, but it's really nice. But honestly, you have huge cone over huge balls for being a fucking asshole. He was cos still constantly threatened for his anti slavery. Views would be threatening this motherfucker. At this point,
everybody, you know he's fucking up, there still hesitating stabbed her fucking. Now I want you know this. Lead played
involved in many more fights endorsed in the summer of life, isn't coming.
In the summer of eighteen, forty nine clay travelled to fox down kentucky to speak out against slavery at a local political meeting. He was then a member
Liberal party, which hope to elect anti slavery. Delegates to the upcoming state constitutional convention, a locust slave owner squire turner serve normal name from normal time. Squire
it was running for hours and giving a speech after the speech, clay was going to give a counter speech against slavery was gunnar
This had been going on throughout the campaign and turn his family and friends we're coming increasingly angry since the speeches so close to home clay did not bring his gun or bowie knife. Instead, he just have had a seven its neck.
Fanboy! You know what I'm not going to bring my big killing knife, I'm just going to bring the seven incher. Well, I'm close to home. I just make points as squire continued his speech he started talking shit about emancipation is, and he got very personal turner. Also, in an hour past his allotted time,
Oh my god, could you imagine sitting in their so it's fucking two hours
I blather about slaves. They given like three minutes now and that's already tomb. Oh my god, I'm not press labour anymore, I'm pro suicide when it was found
Time proclaim to speak: cyrus turner, the son of a process of the pro slavery
they called him a liar and struck him with his cane there's a lot of that? Apparently, the emu
the little fences up on people, are having these speeches and debates also, everybody carries something to hit someone yeah. Well, everybody hates someone with every sticker, hickory sticks or canes are like everyone's got, something to hit a guy with, which is really a short term plan. I mean not to say that you should go up there with a piece, but no pop
problems. You didn't hit a guy to do it, you do it do it. Clay was then surrounded by a crowd who began clubbing him. Another of turner, sons, tom,
Try to shoot claim the head with a revolver, but missed clay.
Fourteen year old, son, Alicia, ok, so has the
worst name ever given I mean Alicia's, the worst name you could, then I assume you could call him eli, but Alicia yeah, I mean that's yeah completely.
entails odds on her son. We want a girl, give we made that clear where
it LISA already took your penis between your legs years addressed darlin, so alicia tried to hand his
other, a revolver, but ended up. Give
I'm a daisy, but clay turned it down. What's while he's gettin beaten up by now, not now not out, instead great tried to pull his knife, but it was
so the way from him some online stabbed him in the side with another knife, and then he was stabbed again. Blood was now gushing from aside clay. Would later say quote, I felt the utmost indignation:
of course, and that who wouldn't be feeling that first and foremost leaders
so. He,
I am so indignant right now, oh my god eg, oh god. No. He grabbed his knife away from the attacker who had taken it
Three of the man's fingers to the bone, not spicy. He thence
cyrus turner in the gut yeah, see, did clay.
If you as mortally wounded and yelled out death words
I sail in the defence of the liberties of the people come on. I mean, if I, if I
dying I fall down and go kill me not that my belly hurts so bad. They got me right in my band, like slaves of my last words would be.
That is, I believe, a pro slavery. Just not appearing made your point.
Ok I'll, do anything, also suck a
men were carried away to their expected deaf beds in the same building.
Awkward yeah, cyrus turner died. Thirty, two hours after the fight, it was an agonising death click here it from his room. Clay himself was so close to death.
The election observer and reporter went ahead and printed his death notice on june. Sixteenth.
the surprise of everyone. Clay did not die the election observer,
ran reporter than printed a retraction lacks agenda.
Should a paper right here june twentieth, we now have to make some
reactions, and, although we are gratified to state MR claeys still lives, it is believed to be out of danger. Yet owners are sad duty to announce his adversary. Mr Turner is dead. No really
sure this time. That is a paper that, if your clay, you fran mother, fucker
That on the wall member, I died
didn't I have. Is that a lot about what I died? I guess I believe your pay,
where, if you knew whether or not I was alive. Well, that's a good point.
I will say that I'm he mortals are not going to stick with what I think they took clay a full year to recover. He explained I allowed no probing of the wound and order.
nothing to be given to me relying on my vigour of constitution and my destiny, which was smart. If there's one thing we ve learned from that time: doctors, doctors, the fuck out of everything you are dying because their put in their dirty mitya cole- I don't know, try coughing in it
hmm what, if I put my hand in pig shit and cram it in the hole? Oh that's a great idea: let's do it. Looking like the holes bigger and he's getting sicker, I dunno. Why lesson learned about the pig shit would work well cross that off the list of things that not put in a wound
a nine hundred and fifty two thousand more things to try. The research into the fight was the opposite of what clay wanted. Voters,
though, disturbed by the violence that the emancipation party gradually lost party in kentucky,
no there, but they blame him for just being out, then awesome for being a superman. Later, clay got word than a mob was headed for his home with the intention of driving him across the state line. Clay fortify this house with two cannon, some rifles and a few loyal friends. His wife and children refused to go his daughter offered his daughters offered to load the rifles, his daughters, tommy and Jeff, and the cannons ok yeah the mob heard about the sort of
nation and abandon their plans. She's us leave him alone. People just leave him the fucking along at it. Do you get it leave now? Although quiet eclat inherited his father's wealth, he did not inherit his business sense. His farming businesses were neglected when he went to war in mexico and he made a horrible investment in a bank in Cincinnati. He declared bankruptcy in eighteen. Fifty six, all his land and furniture were sold at auction, as were the slaves that had been left first
hairs, though they were bought by his mother's new husband, and some of them will return to clay's home other than that clay's own family did nothing to help them out of the financial mess, but they came to the auction. His brother Brutus purchased many items at the auction in his mother, but two thousand two hundred acres of land and drew up a document allowing him to stay in the house. Okay, so they could have. I guess they thought it was cheaper to
buy it at auction, as opposed to like just giving him hell, yeah hell, danilo yeah anyway, they're just really love auctions. What have you like lost your house and then your mom shows up and buys it.
yeah, you can live in it. I mean I want it now. We I told you, you could help me, keep it in mind and you can see the basement. You're good boy, you're, a girl, but you posters up the fight over slavery, continue to heat up. Clay became friendly with abolitionists in the state, even though he disagree with their desire for violence. Its go time eventually. The abolitionists, because there were so aggressive, were driven out of kentucky by mobs. During this time, clay wrote a public letter to the local pay paper sang.
Defend his home and family to the death. If pro slavery groups came for him, they did not yet nothing happening. Clay remained the leading voice of the anti slavery moving in Kentucky. He also
now will not across the united states. The new york times have begun. Printing is letters and speeches in the eighteen forties. Clay was now in great demand. Is a public speaker throughout the eighteen, fifty sea travel the country giving speak simply
cities it was while he was in illinois, giving speeches that he met. Abraham, lincoln, ready,
Married Mary todd, a friend of place, wife as the presidential election of eighteen, sixty grew near rumblings began for cash is clear to run for president, but he soon began to see. Lincoln is the answer for the republican party at the get out of here at the convention in Chicago. The party was split. Some wanted williams, seward, someone and edward bates of
and then clay stood up and spoke to his fellow republicans. We are now on the eve of a civil war. We, the border, stay residents
well upon you to nominate abraham, lincoln, who knows and understands our aspirations, give us lincoln, and we will push you your battle line from the Ohio river to the tennessee, where
bugs give us they get it. We will unite the strength of our
union sentiment and with the union army and bring success to your legions. Do this for us and we will go home and prepare for the conflict, so can he's
and one about for a long time with this, the architect,
lincoln was elected president in eighteen. Sixty caches clay was very close to being vice president, whose name was called the
republican vice president naming committee meeting in chicago, but he was not present at the time she was. The nomination went to someone else was just funds.
save your they re having a baby from rivers, libitum had taken a league do really happened. I was gone. My god seriously, I said to hold that I couldn't exorbitant. I just took
the world's biggest pair anyway rules does
This is what I miss. What I missed. Something is not agreeing with me because he campaigned so hard for lincoln republicans felt he should be awarded with a high level position. New york papers called for him to be made secretary.
War, but william seward believed naming intimate and emancipation leader in the position would immediately start a war. He was all
not given a position in the cabinet. For the same reason, what clay blame seward lingered offered him, minister of Spain perfect exactly what has been training
or clay said he didn't want to have anything to do with an quote old. A fat government like spending
spain taking rap place, said he'd? Like
russia and lincoln agreed he was named minister to russia. Ok before
for russia. Marian caches decided their home was too small and they would expand it into what would become known as whitehall as clay prepared to leave. The south fired upon fort sumter and the civil war had begun.
Washington, dc being so close to the south was considered
in immediate danger of being raided by rebels?
clay and senator lane of kansas quickly foreigner militia to guard the white house until military reinforcements arrived so
whenever he did everything I mean everything, yeah he's yet every everything some of the militia,
camped out in the east room of the white house, the battalion became known as the clay brigade and increased clays celebrity, so he just like a fuckin rockstar at this point, he's like he's like bruce willis in die hard, but he's real yeah yeah.
When it came time to depart for russia, it was decided. The entire clay family would go. Okay off, they went where they stayed for a few months until they realized they couldn't handle the cold. Then everyone but cashless returned against his wishes, so they are all like. It is cold the air staff. By now we love your goodbyes left him. Yet so it's just him yet he's alone in russia
It's really go in for a weird life, yet examine greater russia turn out to be a brilliant tactical move. Czar,
The second was huge vana caches. He kept a russia from recognising the confederacy and, more importantly, from providing them with aid
Then Russia also pushed Britain and france not to recognise a confederacy clay also helps way the russians to sell alaska to united states, even though he got no credit. All the credit went to. Second,
secretary of state with sword who clay hated. It bothered clay for the rest of his life. That seward got all the credit he called seward quote the meanest ablest and most cowardly enemy.
If you are. The guy who tried to assassinate m is the bravest yeah you best guy. I look
brown guy, you shot me in the gut and then I eyes, like echoes god, places a motor for credit for
I got traded may that hickory. Stick clay returned to the? U s briefly, and eighteen sixty two
depressed lincoln stewing over whether or not to release and emancipation proclamation get tough. I mean this is almost like.
god. I stood in the background of everything keepers- labour, the pretty much ligaments word that can take
You would not join the union. Clay thought otherwise lincoln set clear to kentucky to find out clay did and when he returned, he informed licking. The kentucky would join the union leg and then release the problem.
you're not supposed to twenty? Second, we ve never heard of this one either such diverted the amounts for the cultivation of clay with back to russia and stay there until eighteen, sixty nine. He was without his family and wife for six years, so he got
Two fuckin yeah right: he was not good at court etiquette, but the tsars families.
Charming and overlooked is constant blunders. Rumors
and circulating back home about his love of russian women. Other rumors said he was constantly getting into fistfights with russian men. Even nobles over over women can both patriot place. I mean as far as I'm concerned,
the butcher in eighteen sixty seven. He found himself in the middle of a scandal when he tried to help a woman. The woman found herself in debtors prison after her restaurant went belly up. She was irish irish lady living in russia. Okay, open arrested,
First of all, who wants irish food, whose language Stu? How about potatoes, potatoes? How about potato water sure, like some cabbage with your potatoes, like yeah, the
any irish listeners apply like out we're gonna get away with your mother backers. Now dragon you back it never in its bulk data base doom
I don't make a stereotype rooms how about some whiskey clay, helped baylor out, bought back her furniture that was being sold at auction and gave her money
at another house, but he soon found out that she sold all the furniture and did not pay him back any money he had or tossed out of the house and sold her remaining furniture. She then made false claims that he attacked her and tried to fuck her fourteen year old daughter. Ah, word got back to the: u S and the press went wild clay was investigated by congress and the russians both concluded. The woman was lying,
and that clay's reputation had taken a hit there. They made a lot of cartoonists at the attack. Alright yeah the big cartoon, like a boner and a fourteen year, old's mouth or something yeah, that's like a very subtle garfield did that.
Two years later he returned to the: u s his relationship with his wife had not been
Good one, why for awhile I can't buy all the fucking I dunno and clay decided to take up that up a notch by visiting friends in new york for a year before
returning home ticket Jesus, I'm back in the states. I'm gonna hang with you boys for a while, hey once you married, I kinda anyway. Let's go beat the fuck out of some guys meet chicks when he did
turn home shit was not good boy, kitty format that walk up there
I'll be back in paris
when a baby, but that's one of the things like after you like you, stay there for a little while after conviction like fuck. I think I blew up when I got home
and they used a long. I could fuck. I really don't want to go home because mine was getting worse and worse and worse and it just keeps getting worse, but you also don't want to go because it's already bad yeah and it just snowballs me like it's been a year and eventually, like I fucking, I'm going to go, get the shit kicked out of me and it's amazing to probably that the one person he was afraid of
His wife is wasted big, given eight thousand dollars to expand the house. Ok, she spent thirty thousand interesting. Also, as also is younger, children acted like they didn't know him, mostly because he'd been gone for seven,
the other didn't know I mean what's going on around here. They don't even know me right. There's performer babies acting like it doesn't recognized me, mary and cash is managed to keep up appearances until eating
seventy one. When a boy arrived from russia, he was for a boy.
Name was denied pateroff clay.
name, the boy lonnie clay and adopted him. Ok, he's terrible boy named by the way, not not get her a boy.
Lobby that one is lonnie in that one's eliza and that one's brigitte me jewels
boy is Samantha my son
when Mary asked. If the boy was cash's son, he just wouldn't answer neither confirming or denying so how you been good good who's who's, who's son. Is that, so what are you? And now? Let me tell you they taught me through with the architecture cause. I noticed you've really added on here,
whose boys the sun I gotta do you ever get like their pain in your lower back. Just keep you up at night,
I'm gonna go out for a little while around the same time, the tsars into painting of a famous ballerina named and petrol globally,
that clay hung in whitehall bills,
you can read, and this is the hollow fuck you honey.
come into the white bone room and look at the pictures plays personal.
It's never good when you post another girl on your facebook know or anyone or any or the wall above the fireplace craze personal vote.
I am also contain a couple of pictures over years later. If they would say he didn't abandoned his own flesh and blood like so many others have. So he basically said the boy was his right turns out. Mary was now
at all happy with the boys arrival or the painting of the ballerina. After two weeks of the child begin the home. She took all the kids and moved lexington there eventually divorced in
eighteen. Seventy eight after forty five years of marriage, not back in the states created, have much to do his whole life have been devoted to getting rid of slavery, and that was now done. He didn't have much left,
offering the political world. Now he was living in a huge house house with his son lonnie, the russian boy who he was now his son. Yet his neighbors continued to hate him partially blaming him for the war. Okay, Jesus, then a succession which is true well yeah but like yeah, but it was to see that they haven't changed their opinions on river. Whether or not it is good that a section of black foreman who worked on his farm were killed by the klu klux klan. Then things got really weird what? Then things got really weird? It started after the boy came to whitehall and Mary left with the children clay servants, all of whom he had set free years before began to revolt against him
It started subtly with the servant, stealing property from his home. Then they began to threaten him outright. When Lonnie came down an illness clay discover the servants had been beating and starving the boy he lost it and forced all the servants to leave one day in eighteen. Seventy seven
Now he was really alone so September, thirtieth eighteen,
Seven clan lonnie were riding a mule across the property. When caches spotted a man in the woods it was perry, white, the son of the cook, cleared, fired.
Clay, intercepted letters from perry to his mother, in which threats were made about clay clay, got off the meal and told white to raise his hands. Why did but that he reached
for his gun. Clay shot him in the neck and the heart, which are too really important places. They I'm not a doktor, very treacherous, a bad place for a whole. Ok clay then fled to get authorities when help arrive. Forty five minutes later
whites. Family was already taking away the body that meant they had all known his intentions or had at least been lurking as part of the plot crazy right yeah. So it must have been. It must have been that they were mad about the way
leaving it must be right but say he's not living their trees, not living there. For years
We would have of the servants. There are black. So how could black? How could you it's fucking insane like how you no matter what he looked? Yes, of course
You weren't, I like him. You know a blaze, a trail of shared awhile for, but he also help freeing them
not for the uk, can you take,
You realize: how could you take it personally? It's insane. So whatever happened is fuckin crazy. Now clay was making headlines as the emancipator who had
kill a black man I'll fuck. That imagined that a fox news fox news, how ape shit there ape shit. The pro slavery papers had a field day mocking the man who had killed a black man. He had fed and housed clay was tried and acquitted on all grounds of self defense, but clay began to deteriorate.
ITALY after the incident a case and now he's older and he has spent his life always being concerned about being attacked for fucking years. Yes,
it has been attacked, has been in doll, so he's probably got a little bit of ptsd sure and now he's getting crazy and like paranoid, which makes sense,
ro. Any also need cant. Do anything right right now,
what does the public is? Not a fuckin wound yeah, so he's gonna shit. It. Here's another cartoon he began to see conspiracies everywhere. He grew increasingly paranoid. He believed there was a vendetta against him and then, as ex wife was the leader. Ok, when they divorced one of the stipulations was that she couldn't mary until he died.
another matter. A cigar lawyer lawyer, right there, a man and a message of imagine being able to get budget going. Today I mean
can you imagine, though, so the last thing I want to put in here heather is that you can
granted that right, so she gets everything I'll, obviously be paying the child support. A notion can fuck no more later still
So now he thought she was trying to kill him. So she can marry someone else.
Well, listen! That's why you don't put that in your face, something that you can focus on yeah he's getting a little cuckoo banana yeah, so he's clearly got some kind of dimension clay bought for ferocious guard dogs that patrol the whitehall he stalked the house with
the guns and bowing ives, some people reported that anyone who went near the house had a warning shot fired over their heads,
in the mailman I come every fucking, his two kids were set up in the house and filled with rocks nails, bricks and other shrapnel. He started calling his home for general green clay. He was now nicknamed the lion of whitehall I'll. Take it it's not a bad nickname, wouldn't associate what is happening
a little long equal. He still. There ok he's just like dad. What's going on, why you put another nails and that can and don't worry about it,
and gotta have taken care of this. Don't worry about it, just your dumb old mom just trying to marry someone,
I'm gonna blow your mom's. However, the brick, that's that's the milkman. That's not my mom. Actually worth of point. Is I fuck my way through russia,
Where was really only close to his sons, green and lonnie, but then green died in eighteen, eighty
and then lonnie left for the university in richmond. Clay was now completely alone, aside from the occasional hired hand and rare visit from his children.
in his memoirs. Caches wrote that he was so lonesome at night that he would let bats fly through the windows. So he could hear the sounds of life in the house,
The only person you one thing that is bruce wayne greatly. That is really. That is the greatest sense. It is.
when I read, as is rightly, has really love it, so lots of a night that even the bats by through the windows. So he could hear the sound of life, and now that's right
existence not alone. It's nice, their parents have a nice day. Here. I prefer listen to the pitter patter.
lithuania's at my only brim under your journal reporter managed to get cash is to let him in for an interview. He described whitehall a boy already.
Fences are dilapidated. There is no sign of life about the place. One stature,
stand among the trees, a ghost of the grandeur of other days, great marble vases, which once grace the approach to the main
Students have fallen, the blinds are all clothes drawn, no dogs, bark even to greet or worn and intruder grass has found its way up in crannies, where it should not be the silk curtains in the great door, afraid and faded on the floor or old newspapers and bits of boxes along table was littered with books, papers, boxes of odds and ends. Scraps of string, a box of eggs did on the floor near a pair of shoes close to the fire was the tumbled bed
before the fire an arm chair over which a soiled woman blanket was tied who wouldn't want to live there yeah, should I put my shoes, nearly eggs,
What are some of the eggs webs? Is
were also noted. Noted a cot, revolver and bowie knife were always within reach. The public kennedy and I made the report to feel right at home. Yet the report are heard
about sorry. The public had heard nothing about caches clay for years, but that I'll change in eighteen. Ninety four clay become smitten with door richardson, the sister of sharecropper, who worked on this land
though she was very poor and belong to quote the criminal class. As clay said, she seemed beautiful to him. Ok, I think it's nice to point out that lady you dig is part of the criminal.
I have, he likes a bad girl. He wrote an article
the near journal praising her long red hair, her gray eyes and her voice on november thirteen. They married. He was eighty four
and she was fifteen. Oh shit, oh my
fuck! No, no now did this now think back to when he was in. Russia
and a woman accused of trying to fuck are fourteen thought yeah. Why not? How clay's children had desperately tried to stop the wedding
Why talking to men about fishing, eighty officiating to judges before he finally married her and said
when is the wedding, became public. The community was immediately outraged. A mob of thirty men shut up at whitehall, believing clay had gone, crazy was holding the girl prisoner a totally
the real value of air traffic at it. There's nothing wrong here. The clay step outside armed with two guns in a bowie knife, these eighty four!
here we go I've, never disturbed. You bore no got one more day. Reassured me,
violence was avoided when the girl came to the window and said she wasn't being held prisoner and was his wife weak?
soon that everyone left far more bombed than when they arrive,
yeah all we know
the gig is as Angie's into it focuses grow.
What is more, I just walk back. I just keep picture in an uproar.
Stop saying that about it, op
urged darwin only last for years, a boy of most
of her life later clay would give several reasons for marrying her. One was that she was his house cleaner and people would talk if she lived there.
To add to she wasn't
he was helping her. These are not valid. Valid, marry her.
three and finally, that it was essential. Experiment quote: oh my god,
marrying door. Richardson, my peasant wife- I not only married to please myself but to vindicate the principle that the prince and
hasn't, shall intermarry if they choose sure he's a scientist of zero. That's nice! So
experimenter. He can't. I mean these lists.
for how great he was when he was just stabbing and shooting people he's taken a turn. I will say what is refreshing is to hear that people were outraged, because at this time you never fucking know well, but also look. This is a guy who clearly had
tomato issues, and this is what happens when there's no help round. Yes, you just go fucking nuts
Fifteen year olds are you get crazy dogs and you live with eggs on the floor, like you, don't I mean
you make an exit is using a merry adolescence. That's what happens like this is what happens of known
there, there's alba when clay was ninety two years old.
Three married a foyer, he married a badger
I just want to show that a prince can marry an animal there's. A lot of evil to save badgers are filthy animals, I'm just showing that you can marry a domesticated afraid about when closed ninety two years old.
Three men broken a whitehall late one evening in an attempt to either rob or attack the old man, but clay was still clay. He shot one, a visceral it, a second with boeing and seriously
the third before the intruder, escaped ninety two.
we'll three guys care taken. Ninety two year old clay, fuckin shot one and it got another word. He eviscerated a man at ninety two
to this I've been waiting for me to imagine that you really get your shit.
Is the other ninety two or your eggs clay passed away on July? Second, ninety, no three, and as a testament to his anti slavery work mourners at his death included, both white and african americans.
his paper on the day of his funeral wrote quote. Never was a more striking seen witnessed on the way to richmond where the funeral services were to be held from every humble negro cottage, alongside the road and in every crossroads. The mothers enlarged children carrying those
who were too little to walk. The negroes were lined up to pay their respects to the man whom they honored as the abraham lincoln of kentucky or as abraham lincoln. Except is this right? Abraham lincoln is trump to kentucky, but didn't he didn't lincoln.
Didn't he moved to Illinois, he was yeah illinois where you're right yeah, I think so, but anyway, so aside from the his own slaves who were free to try to kill him, he was still thought of you would yes, I will I get that it's just when you honestly the big the big red flag at all, that is the marriage to a fifteen year. It's a little weird little tough,
I found this lala you try to recapture your youth. You tell me how you're doing at ninety two yeah, no yeah, you get it yeah, get more horses on your fucking garage that on november, eleventh nineteen twelve nine years after the death of Cassius clay,
herman, h, clay, a descendant of african american slaves who had grown up at whitehall and was freed by caches clay.
name. His son caches marcellus clay in tribute to the abolitionist caches and clay junior developed as a heavyweight champion boxer, who became famous after converting to the nation of Islam. Caches clay changes named
ahmed ali Ali was quoted that he changed his name and denounced his slave name, which is amazingly ironic, yeah wow, that's crazy, so he
so his relatives were from Whitehall and they were freed by can't cash like lashes clay and then in return,
one of them name, the sun caches clay. Who then had another son caches clay junior? Who then became.
I'm an alley, mohammed ali, because he thought than the name.
scarcely slave labour, which was a slave name, but it was, but it was the name of the man who
it has layers. Wow. That's fucking, crazy, good god yeah. That's amazing that muhammad or what he didn't know he made a very quick decision. He didn't know it is technically a slave name. It is but it's all it's also not at all a slave. No, it's not like a slave name of a guy who, like kept the
slaves all their lives and work them to death? It's the name of the guy who spent his whole life, trying to free slaves. I mean pining to free slaves, yeah. That was all he did. That was his whole existence, and you know a couple of other things.
I married young girls as a bunch of russian for a little while fucking bunch of russia matters anyway. But, besides that, you know what martin Luther king
was also a philander like he messed around us. Why cannot? We don't think about it that way, we think about the great things he did. Yes, so I think the same thing she go for cash
clay. I agree. Occasionally, a man who helps free the slaves can also bone. Children born children put turned into a obama, ok
That is a weird end,
and the bad on the scales. I think you'll find that the good book back. Then it was legal. Now you could marry a fifteen year old in Kentucky. You can marry a twelve year old in a long time for georgia, so oh wow
I don't even know what that age is now, but I'm sure you're so merry fifteen year old simply take it's.
Listen, I'm on all the websites, I believe at sixteen
Sixteen you just don't just the sexes of setting yeah, that's upsetting
other than that. You know, apparently, from what I read the family wanted her to marry because they thought it would help them get financial security cause. They were super super super poor. I mean there were sharecroppers, so their life was no fucking walk in the park. Nj I got better, so they basically sold her off kinda sure and she took it for the family literally
Ok anymore dates, the boy you do well, that's pry way, widow!
That's probably why a lot of people don't know about cassius clay is because of what he did at the end. Yeah. It wasn't like you know, a real rib yeah he's real, alright well done. Well, we stop slavery.
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