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Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the political years of Aaron Burr. 

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I'm a slash dollop the team Monday nine year of our lord Jesus Christ. Were they doing a lot of the like man? Can you believe it's all most eighteen hundred. What is it good? For you? parking lodge, is going to stop working. At that point, I am actually going to the mountains to live in a cave which a bunch of well water that, through rice. So aaron Ehrenberg and fellow democratic republicans lose. All the new york state assembly elections am aaron is loses his election to so is no longer in Nurses assembly, so here goes back to Working as a lawyer in new york city, okay, in December twenty two. Seventy nine
A young woman, twenty two years old is murdered and thrown into well. Her lover who was boarding The house she lived in was arrested for murder. He was the last person seen with her and they were having a relationship of some kind now and they were having a sexual when he was a lover bs that yeah. I guess I gave that away. Sorry jack you don't know you doc do be quick to yes, I'm an investigator and ivory. They were mugging admit it. the quaker family, the young ladys families quicker they kept her boy Are you on display in the house everyone who want to see it to come by look at it because it's
bruised and looks like she's, been beaten, and so many people want to see it that they moved it outside into the street for viewing and for it three days. This goes on for three days, but it gets people very upset like or Very angry and they they want the border hung. His name is led by weeks, so his brother had a construction, and he's very, very well off at the time he is building Alexander Hamilton's house, and he ends up hiring a dream team to defend his brother Ehrenberg.
alexander hamilton and future supreme court justice, brocklehurst livingston cars. I know him. So hamilton style as a lawyer is very brash emotional, bordering on nasty to even his own defendant. One of One of hamilton's friend said he displayed quote utmost. animosity and cruelty in the courtroom, error and, on the other hand, does it gives the fighting the court is not antagonistic keaton. Emotional outbursts share hamilton would lit we spend hours giving a speech, or you know summation an errand would do the same thing, but in twenty minutes errand was very concise and got to the points a literal hours,
on the first day of the trial spectators screening worldwide. I know he's wrapping a lot of that, and some of that is song. So it just takes long right, that's right, but I know that you make a good point. On the first day of the trial spectators screamed leave. I should be crucified as he entered the court. The defence Witnesses claim the victim was sleeping with different man at the boarding house, including her married cousin, and pointed out Another border was very possibly the killer. Now, that is probably true. This other guy probably did kill her because he eventually was convicted of sexual assault and then deported back to england and then committed a crime. There was hung, so he was very the problem, but the jury, ends up by this dream. To being convinced that leave is a decent man and that the woman,
committed suicide. She bade herself. Now member, they as he was being led into the court, their skin increased volume and hang him and and he was acquitted the courtroom. Ghana gives high game they, so they were many quite a turnaround yeah, so there, Very their view, good lawyers, bird had good team right. Ok, but he said, the guy selectively job because every new york or thought he was guilty and want to kill. Ok, presidential elections come eighteen hundred. Now, back and the state assembly picked electors, free state, so Oh presidential elections start in April when people are voting for the members of the assembly possess a picnic president, basically, ok
So an starts creating alliances. He had people the staff collecting statistics on counties wow. This could not have been. gonna die by anyone else are now under way. Gonna do any of that we ve actually just with what trying to read these tea leaves. he likes you, Who was which party who would work pauling places who donate by keep? knew all the information about all these people right today. This Thou campaigns are done, but totally when he started doing this. Federalist were fuckin baffled and, like Steve carnegie of the eighteen hundreds hits gather
they're just like what the fuck is he doing in its wrong like that's it they're, oh god, so. They're like this is disgusting. He's coming up with specific, I dont like this numbers thick. That's the devil's handiwork, Sir Thomas Jefferson. Running knows they need to win new york that he needs aaron, cause errands the big player in new york so further, so he he has errand sorted, take charge for the assembly elections erin goes out and picks war heroes and ex governor very highly respected businessmen to run for the assembly and the federalist and they're coming just look lame and comparison. He basically gazelle picks like guys. People like fetters they just like these are guys. Aaron's house, he turns into a campaign headquarters. There around
clock snacks. There are mattresses around for reputed asleep on because working so hard like it's. I don't know. Sometimes I just feel like it's so nice to get away and just lay on a mattress. That's comfortable so like at that time that they have home delivery. Mattresses, available, dave, No, I don't think so. Why were you thinking of? I don't know it just like. There's certain companies where I can't remember my friend was telling me about one that he loved helix. But it's like a universe of magistrates, so you'll sleep that was it yeah we cannot discuss great by the way they are somewhat gotta. Snacks. Do you know fresh. I'm serious, I dont know what our aim. These hundred smacks. do you have an early in what were they dried maids and
roots like it's. Just like cranberries twinkies got rotting. Ok, now he they he did. He had them. Do No personal attacks on federalists, there is no fraud and they were all thirteen seats, total funding sweep He's a bit of its everyone's, like this guy's, a fuckin genes and by the way have you had his snacks. This guy he's invented something called pigs in a blanket. What I don't believe? No, no! It's not what you think. It's time you that actual sausages in some dough, I would prefer a pig in a blanket. Yes, I think the bar we hear about it. We would all love a full size, pig in actual do bay now: the federal so very upset by this and they hold a meeting to stir.
Up the assembly from choosing new york selector. Did they wanted to have their governor John Jay pick the elector. So essentially, what we are talking about is a coup right sure feels like it. Then It could lead to something serious as serious as a civil war, but they'd rather do that then have jefferson win alexander hamilton, magloire this Alexander Hamilton is for this completely undemocratic coup. He goes to J and asked. As I told the secret meeting of the legend? major immediately, so they could change laws before republicans. Take over hamilton quote. It will not do to me over scrupulous by a strict adherents.
To ordinary laws, scruples of delicacy and propriety ought not to hinder the taking of a legal and constitutional action to prevent an atheist in religion and a fanatic in politics from getting possessed. In of the state democracy. That would be I'm just assuming. It would be a lot easier for me if you could kind of wrap that a little bit it doesn't scrupulous is a tough one to rhyme, but I mean I'm just like when you do it, I feel like your delivery is off. You know it's like he would do it a lot more like this and talk about this. group. You list, but you know a little more like that: yeah yeah. So for future, if going to quote the guy. it sure is for me too, it's hard for me to I'm. Actually what what you're doing is I'm picking up on the actual information I'd rather just kind of be bobbing my head,
fischer. Basically him those try trying to stop the peaceful general power in an election that was not being contested out. If you ve heard many doing that, but now point we could consider how to ganem trump Now. A very had a way of creating a sizeable weaken our youth is it possible. We can get the trump musical, that's what I'm saying sure, but there's not alive. We could do that's why we're going in the other direction it's time for a coup was not wrapping so much, but I dont wrap. As much as I just talk, that's my whole thing. That's exists. What I thought. Look, Clearly, when hamilton went to John Jay and asked if he would take part in our throwing an elected government, John Jay said now. So, after a success, errant success
because he was a new yorker republicans picked ehrenberg for vp to run with jefferson. Now at this fine work back then. I know you adverts vote for different guys and you could ve hop. He began it. Ok right can over the the way to be president like you could devote anyway. You wanted riot, ok, So the elections very partisan, lotta hyperbolic language to scare people from voting for the other side, they said vote four jefferson, would cause carnage that americans had never seen before rape incense, An atheist would be everywhere. Where's that a civil war was starting came there were, tons of ugly attacks, fred most Adams was called not masculine and even a hermaphrodite.
Jefferson was attacked for father in children with one of his slaves, which is true right so The elections insanely close this second ballot. Now this is the width of the electors it is of impacts and other electors are picking by you not by the states right, ok, so the second ballot jefferson, an errand are tied with seventy three votes. So the winner would be picked now because it was tied by the house of representatives and each state has one vote. Jefferson needs eight federalist to switch over, so he can win. Basically an federalists hate jefferson. They fuckin hate him. So the tactic, a bunch of them beside they're, gonna, support, aaron bird to be president.
So errand goes to jefferson answers legato want. I don't want them, nancy and walk away from vp. If it'll help the situation, I'll, pull myself out, wow. Aaron publicly comes ounces, I did not want to be president. Then the federalists are like. Will you have no fucking choice that such a turn on you have to accept? The will people, but it's not the will of the people it just a bunch of fucking deeds been picked. I could not but yeah right right So Hamilton now realises his party might put ehrenberg in office and freaks the fuck out, ok colleagues quote? For Heaven's sake, let not the federalists party be responsible for the elevation of this man.
So we started attacking, it, won't be so bad with the rape, incessant let's get going I'd atheists when you really think about it, that's maybe the america we deserve So he he starts attacking amber He says: ehrenberg will immediately go to war with britain. That is overly ambitious, that he's a narcissist is immoral? is he like in the mirror saying all this he's also what else real piece of shit He insinuates errand abandoned his military post during the war by faking, an illness. He try To paint Aaron as caring for nothing and not as family, not his country, not society, saying he loves nothing, but himself, aside from the pigs in the blanket this mine is worthless.
So Washington is debating it's like a big thing, an errand stays out eta, washington, Now many here he attends is Theo's. being she's eighteen she's, marrying wealthy south carolinians Joseph Austin Now some people think that she, is marrying Austin, because aaron isn't so much debt that he can help him get out of it loud and people don't like astern he's arrogant and one woman called him quote: most the most intolerable mortal ever instead, not as bad as somebody but also easy on the eyes. Yeah. Ok But he actually love theo and he loved her smart. She was so. Errands, angry now that he keeps having to tell people it won't, be president, he evelyn
your problems than the little like and everyone who said that the attitude we needed a president now I dont please do not tell me that I do not want to be accredited someone's got their stump speech. I don't I'm serious if you do that, I will walk away right. Mr president, it's our guy! That's our valor right. So this is a time when that was the problem. Southern republicans, you know, but who support Jefferson, don't believe him all of it of a smoke screen, he can he's telling federalist that he wants nothing to do with their plan right. Mr president,. And then hamilton and federalist, somewhere start spreading rumours that Aaron had double agents working in washington
seeing of siding with republicans or federalists, would help and become presidents he's too slight, just like no, I certainly I don't want it. I got here. We are right to play a game. Let's say you do get it what's your first. And I wanted doll ride so you're. Also, the the thai break in the house starts on february, eleventh eighteen, o one and at what It goes on for dates like there, holding their literally like would vote in the middle the night and the running around with their night caps on their little member happy beside. We then have to stop it. This is like area seriously, yet yea are running around brownings avows immerse, yapping caps, and there too, When you're or hats to sleep cause, because you need a hat for every occasion, why? Why did we sleeping adds. Was it just cause? I don't know it's that I'd. Never
I can imagine trying to sleep and we gotta get that back without time to bring back. All right! Well, I'm off to bed a night had on so tied after days. One guy doesn't want it. They're just re voting. Yes, and it is our dangling counting. It tie riva, ok, fine a federalist breaks it after the jail An assures him that he will let one of his friends keep a political appointment it comes at some simple little favor little bribe right, ok and that guy with was his vote. Any get some other federalist, sam and after thirty six ballots, Javert is present in the narrowness vp k and he's like thank god and they're like out dealt prick,
and we know what you were too well yeah? You haven't heard the last of us you'll be, You, son of a bitch? No, I do not like you, We want to be more at this. I love this stop say you love and I am not getting. I have no interest in this job, so you got your guy, stop stop nodding me like your verse, is now those presidential decree gibe. Everything is not a speech that speech. I have surplus enemy, listen, listen! get out now, I'm not gonna sit, listen to me this stuff. Like you, don't listen to listen to me, my not only do not want it. I will not allow me I will not, I stopped enjoying a sound level new licit. Yes, let me president visited. I do not call me that I have no interest in the job.
I aaron burr, do not will not want to be president ever okay, don't don't do it, I'm going to move I'm going to leave america. How about this? I hate america, I hate america, hate, americans, So voting for you know, do such great. It's such a good stump speech. Some speech: I have no sayin that that's so hum, subject I haven't told used the term. Actually, french, ok, I could not. I mean exude firms in. when I'm with again, so this is great, I. so people because the country, especially newark, celebrate the new administration and not rural party, one guess noted coat. A number of the guests drank so many toast that in the night they return to their houses without their hats and another toast.
just take a money. They weren't, you guys were just getting drunk from toasting. As a drug. I lost my hat. That's how I touch to losing tat was just another toes. actually want to toast the tops toast time we have such a great toast. It gets time we did a chose two times toast a chest at times just to jam and his toast advertise earlier today sine die gadgets. to commemorate do whether just as jazz ooh, where's that I tomorrow night and I'm comin back hairless. That's our party said you were out, I'm not kidding, like only two of us had our hats on by the end of a hotly shit,
lake under the open. I wouldn't even know where our hats were well Britain's like. That is a great way to put it. How was it dude hatless house? We we were hatless. So now in new york, republicans fighting amongst themselves, because between clinton bird, and livingston supporters. Those are the big groups now but the boys had problems with each other. So do it. Clinton who is George Quinn's nephew, share hates aaron. His errand backs livingston for new york mare, ok,. So do it Clinton starts working with politics. we're enemies to ruin erin, but people keep trying to ruin him. Ok,
So jefferson notice aaron is starting to lose clout in new york and starts to push him aside a little bit. The southern republicans are also worried that Yorker could win. The next Presidential election, which would hurt virginia's power. They are also worried about bur. Ok, then Erin, as they deal with the new onslaught of christian From anonymous federalists, which when the form of dirty stories printed about his sexual behaviour, okay, so they're just talking about how we bangs alot one of the stories, was titled simply ehrenberg, question exclamation point.
Indeed, Seti seduced women, oliver new york city and had ill a joint, illegitimate children all over the place that he was now going to ruin women in d c who had the same business. So he is just he just fucks his way through a town like a bedbug, Ok, so now aaron thinks that answering these attacks are just beneath him. Want to go down to that level and any also thought he had nothing to worry about quote. I always My friends will treat as false everything set of me, which ought not to be true and kay So, even though slander heap? He thinks that this land could actually be helpful. because it would make the federals look stupid by by coming up with these ridiculous stories, yeah right.
And that it would bring republicans closer together because they would all get his back right. But, This is just the beginning of his enemies, panting and was a sexual deviant. It doesn't help that. washington DC, a new city and all Politicians are living together in just a few boarding houses that so we're eating together, they're working together and then they're sleeping in rooms next to each other. So it's an atmosphere that just leads to a lot of rumor and gossip, and you know right there in a little bullshit does ever imagined a match in DC big above ok, but he definitely sleeps around I will say that personally the research said he didn't, but he definitely has it not a hundred percent proven or I think it might have been one hundred of dna-
but he definitely sleeps with his wife's, like I dunno how you said: valet slave and has kids, okay, so he's definitely cheating on on that level. But wait at this point. He is unwed, correct it's cheating. When his wife was alive, you mean oh, his wife's dead. Now, that's right! So yeah she died yeah. He was cheating when his wife was alive for on that. So when array, but he's having affairs eliminate nieces. Mr Barroso is yes, totally at a bachelor pad in philadelphia. The prior an affair with Madame the nurse and say heroic, erotic novels and was constantly cheating on our older husband, like the other cheese writing all these erotic novels. It he's a darling. Where do you come up with this stuff.
Stories are just absolutely bewildered this one poor boy. What is poor boy, As I know yeah. I was just watching the pool boy clean one day and I thought oh wouldn't that be crazy, but none of that is true. Obviously I don't know much about him other than he just cleans. The pool mature you'll find a lot of these are just fantastic adventures that play in my mind, young yeah, like the term doggy style. I just I dunno. I just sort of thought of it. One day, it's not something I would ever imagine anyone would actually do. Actually, I don't even know if the human body could contort in that way, although I suppose one could have potentially the Souter was either on their knees or standing on, say something that was lower ground. Like say, if I guess, if I were to be laying on the bed,
on all fours, and that's just it turn of phrase that just popped into my ad. I should judge that doubt, but on all fours and then the potential pseudo, whoever it might be, I mean in reality it would be only you darling, but in this one I don't know. Let's just say it's: one of those police officers were to be standing on the bed while on the floor behind the bed, and that would probably give the crotch level to be able Go into me, but who now this again I mean that each ill, yes- and I would imagine that you had come so hard from that, just because a table to veto the sensation can be quite strong at that point anyway, I should get cooking. Ok, I'm pretty hard great go, take care of that, I'm sore from writing,
The boys so aaron and hurried met before she married and it seems gone. Awhile sex is really important to Erin what evidence is a monster like everything, but and are only women, but he likes smart, accomplish independent woman not at all, like the typees accused of like he's accused of taking advantage in like that kind of stuff, but that's all the type woman whose into many men for dynamic. What are you You mean, like a woman. Look younger or someone who is right. You know easy you're such a little. You label arraigned manipulation, ok right there
new york city newspaper editors, James cheatham, probably was the worst in going after errand, he published pamphlet pamphlets on how evil and crafty earned was made fun of errand supporters and friends and insinuated those who supported him were unmanly and possibly gay. I mean there's just it's, never been but it s it's just so it it's just so. Similar and yet it's just amazing that that still is like it's just so juvenile both like didn't get he's gay, probably The legs era borys gotta, be gay. Don't you understand if you like your king. Cheatham also met with jefferson to spread winning rate name for a fucking cheater.
cheatham also met with jefferson his bread, rumours that error and actually tried to steal the election election and that he had no interest in winning did you last? Please don't go out for me the like! That's how he, assuming that you can listen to me, my name's, MR cheatham, suggested is now. Germany has now done with aaron and he doesn't talk shit publicly. but he also doesnt defend him with all these attacks, even when air and ask them to because Jefferson wants James madison to be his successor. Any wants aaron gone as vp, so he's fine with the attacks and his meeting with cheatham, so at the age. You know four republican caucus errand doesn't get one single vote for vp, while instead they went to George Clinton. Why
man spoke, is orange, glancing or the other clint. George George. Ok, One man spoke against it saying they were throwing a man who has done a lot for the party out quote without specifying any charge against him or offering any proofs to support it. So he's out, he woke him, the next vp candidate. Just so I'm totally clear why? Why do they want him out so badly? At this point? Because of all this sort of, Progressive views he holds, I mean, if you're, no, it's it's simply politics. The republicans don't want a powerful new yorker. Ok, so that so the southern republic not only harmful new ground? Ok, so that jobs wants a different guy he's god he's got the bad rumours of actual like it's it's it's a bunch of it's a bunch of ridiculous,
thing swirl around a guy who's just, but I think it's business is dry up its debt by a thousand fake cuts. Yeah like new? Really nobody has used for many more politically, whereas before he was import another like they're right, he helped to new york and then his popularity there is and what it used to be so is theirs less up. Ziad, ok,. so he decides to now run for governor of new york. Ok his friends, sell em to voters, saying is open a base It is open and manly conduct, so they're trying to counter the the channel. Right to the saying, he's very honest about what he does and also he's a man so they're saying like no. He likes to fuck. Well, he's honest he's a man and he'll bang anything
They also tell his military service gave anonymous. He can't bang your wife, like a drum. You understand. amazon, spreads ally that, as governor aaron, would try to get new york in new england to cease. weed from the union? A laser erotic, gossip ha hamilton. Erotic palms about aaron are published. One said he to groups of men to his home and perform sexual favours on them for votes, lousy. really works a lot like blow jobs yeah, but by the way any jobs are good for the economy. So you know what I mean. Have we seen this week's blow job numbers, The palms called his friends and supporters male prostitutes and puts on a brave face
He tells Theo that he would send her. Some quote new and amusing stories about himself from the paper so he's when I about I've sucking on my friends dicks. How are you it's It's an area is here is an article dad. I love that sakharov, gents votes. He refuses to condemn, condemned the slanders, as he says it's beneath them. So all this time help lead to him losing is vp slot. He, he is sailing anarchic com not going to take the bait right. He campaigns on reforming city government ravaged citizens lighting. Property requirements for voting making mayor unelected position, abolishing giving greater weight to the boat of wealthy people legalizing blowing a friend's vote.
So he just sticking to the issues and the attacks are continuing and his loyal friends started the kind of back away. because, while they don't believe the rumours but they're like man, this is associated right. Yeah and they don't want to be associated with it. One friend said: Aram is gonna going to go down. His friend should not have to be quote dragged along with him now at the beginning, out at beginning of the election have been a campaign he been favoured to win. But due to the attacks he lost by the largest margin of any. humanitarian action in the art history wow, you, Sir Jeffrey. And jefferson didn't eat him. As a you know, northern new york doesn't want in public is politically irrelevant. He he's just not needed by his party. So no one really helped them out, and then they you know they just just let it gets and thereby lilacs ok.
one. Article journey election had quoted hamilton, so it's an article writing about hamilton speaking to higher up federalists. The article said quote I can t tell you, are still are despicable, opinion of which general hamilton, as expressed two of MR per. so he saying he's not going on shit, but he said something terrible about burma. Hamilton, thrive, Yes right, the writer never said a word when it was, but the word despicable has connotations apparently an ensue is insinuation that he's having sex with his daughter theo.
Cause they're very close and people I mean what's up with dad? Why does he like? Is dollar, associate your saying if you're suggesting that there's gonna be atheists em and insists that kind of place and that a little near they ve already? right. They've already been doing all that shit they've planted that seed. So I can find out about the rang out he's a daughter. Fuck are now why don't we get back sermons and find out about it? This thing. That said until after the election and he's now pest, let's go he felt hamilton. I quote long indulged himself and illiberal freedom with my character. He has a peculiar talent of saying things, improper and offensive. Now he's he's confronted hamilton twice, but or for sanction and both times him more hamilton apologize, but that it keeps doing it anyway right so over a decade ammo.
In his friends- have been dragging aaron laws on night. He is not restarted at all. He hasn't now. All I know is just like right. I mean it's amazing that he's held out this long, but the second you hear something like that. You are like right. You motherfuckers, yeah, yeah,. also. He like he like took it when I was about himself, but now right now, you're right yeah so now we're seeing insert shots of close ups of like him lacing his boots. Tightening them up putting on his jacket going up bizarre buttons on the cops, are getting buttoned tightly the ties getting tied properly and that his neck kind of cracks- and he just looks in the mirror to himself- and he just goes elmo fucking up And then he's out the floor number right here respond to handling, even though Hamilton paid a guy, so you fuck his wife. Like he let he let all that shit slide. yeah. You know, but quite patient.
hamilton sense, So errand since hamilton a letter and hamilton Regions like I'm not going to apologize and despair well can mean a lot of things. What grade of despicable was. The author talking about he couldn't issue an apology for a vague statements, plus he says it's politics quote. I trust. on more reflection, you will see the matter in the same light as me. If not, I can only regret the circumstances and abide the consequence. So I m writing angry I raised ok, please apologizing anything yet what happens happens. So they ready with letters back and forth and finally, Aaron since hamilton, a verbal challenge to dual through friend in hamilton, accepts and hamilton these letters Are these letters? Are the letters available anywhere these
I believe you man I'll, take that ratcheting up. So hamilton before before the dual, you write a letter in case he dies for publication, no rights musical ok so he's by the way. That's quite a move. Did he do whereas other doors. I wonder It'll be like he did it, so he's I believe he did so He art and heavens annoyingly he's like a space should have done the daughter, bang and stuff despicable does have connotation that so far no he hears by just in case. I pass letter. so it said morally and religiously he's supposed to doing, but he needs a dual to keep his reputation intact. the guy who here
dueling, but has had ten duels. Joe is never said he hated doing before. Until now now is I got a bunch of time, as is being forced. none of the doors were fatal and he'd never said he was against doing before. Even after his son, died in a dual right. Aaron has only been in one door with hamiltons. Brother law and no one was hurt, and that was why no one was hurt. Oh no was hurt, ok right Harold and also way and sorry and the way that works right is that basically you like you both load. You shoot you mess, you shoot you mess, then you reload and now you shoot you only get one you eu you mess and then you go are we have done, And then you end of times I go
you can miss on parents ago. Ok, we're good! We did the dual. My honour is intact. Your honours into yeah right. So hamilton also rights. He has nothing to do with errand personally, just politically, but he been attacking and personally for twelve buccaneers right, yeah heavies gas how the road he throw away the first shot, maybe his second right giving quote double up tunisia to colonel, bore to pause and reflect so he sang. I will miss on purpose and then burke and think about the think about it. I want you to think about this for a second Some historians believe hamilton added this to make sure if he died. Errands reputation would be ruined forever. Right It does not write a public statement. He just right.
Goodbye letter to feel quote. I am indebted to you, my dears theodosius, for a very great portion of the happiness which I have enjoyed in this life. You have completely satisfied all that my heart and affections had hoped or even wished, and then he asked her to put the lengths remaining that rich guy. That really help the lack of great god. Now I have a home, And then he asked her to burn a bundle of his letters, so they don't ruin and reputation so often of letters that he has he's like burn those things are no one. Now Theo did know about the duel He just said it was a kind of weird letter from dashed up here, isn't sleep well the night before they have to go to new jersey. They have to cross the river and go to new jersey, cuz. It's illegal in new york
Sure so burnt his second william finesse arrive first and one hat when hamilton and his second nathaniel pendleton arrive. They discussed the rules of the so what are we thinking just kind of standard shoot at each other? Ok, great good, a typewriter to stay at stayed home so does, or illegal, so the boatman and the attending doctor can't witnesses witness it. So they go some over there. See it. We're gonna, go to fridays. that's where. often brings the pistols as they agreed upon their. We tracked pistols and they have a hair trigger. Which is something aaron would not have known about giving can anybody air Jaeger you'd have to squeeze? It is the hard it just goes really liked tat. Ok, right now
so that gives hamilton advantage and he doesn't tell era So if you have an advantage, because it's going to be easier for burma to shoot early and now properly burke and go like be raising it up and coming right, Radice, I'm here, so they take their positions and hamilton ass for time. Time management is glad he puts on his glasses and and he places I to the side of the pistol several times, slowly aiming at different targets. Now it does so like a guy who's gonna throw away a shot like he said now now, but maybe split I again with that give the guy you're about to have a dog The impression that europe,
aiming to kill yes, yeah it edward. Alright, let's see if I hold it like that, that would work boom, okay and then over there bang get him right. There kill that sentiment. it's all right, I'm ready to take the peaceful out animal tests. often says he's ready and the deal begins. They paste and they turned errand shoots. Hamilton. Aaron then cries out face, quote surprised and regretful according to pendleton some on the ground and air not to speak to him, but his sex and then ass one allow it May houses em off to the boat and Hamilton dies the next day. Now lies but time he dies lies of already started by hamiltons friends that only aaron shocked, according to both seconds, bow
men shot and followed the rules both. said. Aaron was shocked and regretful, but the seconds had different stories of what happen and who shot first and how long between the first shot and the second shot. So one's ever going to know what happened but it, but they say about shot. They did both shoe. For sure we know that do we know where hamilton shot know now, It doesn't sound like aaron new hamilton was planning to miss with his first shot, as he said in his letter and it sounds like he shot close and then Aaron shot and killed. Him write history. Usually state what hamilton friends said happened right.
aaron shop first and Hamilton's pistol just discharge accidently as he fell. Ok. This doesn't make any sense based on what the second said, which was that they both shot right. So we re ok, it's sounds like what happened was hamilton aimed shot hit, a branch above her errand and then Aaron killed hamilton. That's what it that's what sounds like Heaven, but again. nobody knows for sure, but but them me Historians just act like what happened, his friend said is true, which is. Taking this idea that guy right. but either way overnight. Hamilton was a martyr and errand was one of the most hated elimination while. so angers home and waits for news, because animal
still alive, and they take them off. And then he sends an invite of doktor of that great when you shoot a guy and then it's like get him in the boat gets a long ride just the one or two you should a brought two hours. That's gonna be awhile. I will work our guy, I like to do it like the italians. Do I sort of sick as well I love you, ok, so. He he he gets all awaiting any sends a letter to the doktor and ass. If hamilton will would recover, errands already become it. is only being called an assassin. Cheatham lies and says errand. What a great line. cheetah lies. Who could have seen this coming to
I'm saying Aaron had war. What was that times version of a bullet professed, and we then the big thing ayers like silk, it's six, some silk thing I think: silk but yeah I dunno yeah. Maybe I dunno it's a shouldn't. Remember it's a it's a nice. She stops bullets yeah right and I advocate it's an egg and then afterwards he went celebrating the tavern. He was quote waiting for blood of his fellow citizens and laughing at the limitations of widows and orphans. I mean that even if, even even if he did kill hamilton purpose and was happy about it, you don't go drive and the trophy around the parking lot public, like you not. I mean like you're, not like that tone.
as far as how society works where you're like. Oh, yes, well, excuse me, while I japan is blood like their puddles, all the widows gathered around, so I can point and giggle yeah, it's it's pretty crazy. So The either this is obviously false, but historians most historians dogmas, many historians take these lies that cheatham created, as fact to pay Aaron as an evil martyr which includes the guy who wrote a book that musical hamilton is based on, but it's a lie, but maybe don't have a guy who writes about electronics for the wall street journal, write history book that you then base your. I think that's what I did tat writing, but I, but he does he like a wall street journal shithead, and then he writes a book about hamilton in which he gets shit loads wrong and then some ass musical on it and that musical has just because
simple people, that musical as just like. Let us not ass a war in cement and what's that serious, people. This is a liberal, a very much a liberal democrat loved thing and we I have a very serious problem in this country of that particular group of people, not knowing history well, I just mean that we, once you have a song stuck in your head, you're like that, did it today. That's what happened so well. They they loved the they loved it. They liked the music, but they love the history of who Hamilton was that a right? Okay, which is not what he was right, which is why they love it, and so aaron is shocked by just the way.
Heaps of hatred that come and the lies that are being said. Can we go back to talking about? I bang my family. He owes me like a little he's. Also like I fucking took shit for fucking years. and this and suffered in other shit and and. And now we should understand it does yeah. Let's just face it, you asshole, okay, you brought yourself a silk bullet proof negligee, which is very comfortable, but also stops bullets, it's yeah, but that by the way, that's what I would wear yeah. That's what I wear to school now that my sleeping cap, the new york new york,
taking steps investigation whatever to prosecute him, even though this need one never prosecuted a man for doing it's never has just get to say what is the charge I mean they. They have doing really dual. I would it rain of NATO illegal, but it happens it all. What happened in new jersey? They have no jurists, deride rise right right, so. An errand realized he was being quote driven to some sort. exile and made terminate into an actual and permanent ostracism. So he leaves the ark. He soon heard he was wanted for murder in both the new york and new jersey,
they go say, goes to the south and he travels around for a while. He wrote Theo often and then he stops at Theo's home in south carolina and gets to meet, knows grandson for the first time now at aaron is still the vp. He hasn't. The new Try and have him he's a vp on the larger vp doing his approval ratings are pretty low right now, to be honest, you really do a tv show gdp on the land? Lamby, be ok, and then and then jefferson needs his tie, breaking vote in the senate and for airlines to such wherever he was. the preside over impeachment trial, I wear a genial jail. I would not be like look. Did I appreciate that? But obviously this sounds like a real trap.
I'm not a word about right. Bullshit, you hate me, it's the impeachment twelve such jeremy of judge samuel chase, who is also nickname bacon face because was red complexion sure sure? Ok, that's cool! That's go! I really like just Schoolyard shit right there like, we really will call you beg, could face like that hurts my fear. Legs were tough shit bacon, face. Aaron goes to d c and there Public goods are very warm but just jealous. It is especially nice now this could be because they, also for no one having his back and then he added and then, John killed Hamilton and there like and then You go on the rhine and thereby like
Helped him out a little bit early gotta go crazy, maybe I'm just assuming that, but judge chase, is accused of making seditious remarks against jefferson, while on the bench he's a courtroom bully. He does a lot of political speeches from his from the bench, so air intakes or air and takes the impeachments super seriously. He sets up a chamber for the event with stadium like seats the bleachers, should go or even created an elegant. Ladies, Are you so women, because a nice attendance is either a two hundred and fifty b to twenty five c
reed, oh nine de ok, they're doing the wave, this is a little out of control. Errand doesn't like the judge chaise, but it gives him a fair trial but Aaron's cold condescending and interrupted him a lot. Aaron annoyed a few centres with his rigid adherence to the rules. He told the defence lawyer to remove his big winter coat at one point: a big when a code office is ridiculous. What are you doing? Take off your big went to come at what point he in a centre going through the argument over eating cake during court, what they do in a big way, if I were just going to allow people to have cake like it's a birthday party at here, would anyone like that? I love the guy briggs cake. Would anyone like a little bit of cake for this gentleman? I have brought brought cake. as the I'm famished I'd love? May we have a recess
happy birthday, one, and always described him ass quote, with the dignity and impartiality, impartiality of an angel, but with the rigour of the devil. In the end, Samuel chase was acquitted. Ok so the next day or so you're going to bake and face any more charges. Oh, he was going to beg and face it all the time. The next day errand gives his farewell addressed to the senate I'll be here, and I apologise to any senator he offended and said he felt
anger ill will towards any colleagues and quote if the constitution be destined ever to perish by the sacrilegious hands of the demagogues or the usurper which got avert. His expiring agonies, we'll be witnessed on this floor and his speech is not prepared off the cuff. He roused its powerful. He amazing his friends and his enemies and quote left the whole senate in tears. Once once said that after five once said that after there was five minutes of of silent and solemn, we,
after the sixers for except for that the guy was like. Is it ok? If I keep it in this case, that is it weird to eat cake right now? Is it strange to I mean that was great speech, but I just don't want I think too much. It is a speech cake. Does anyone what cake others said centers we wept for half an hour, even federalist lot,
Papers would write about the incredible emotions he stirred wow at the end, Aaron said that he felt a genuine friendship for them and all for them all and wished for every man there to remain safe and happy, and then he left no longer a vice presidential and vice president and that's in part to man. I agree, that's so crazy to like every because he's been so vilified he's been made to be such an enemy and then just through words to be like
ever like maybe we had him, I mean it's very much like a movie where you're, just like you know at the andes, really it's so crazy. How this group of people who are liberals love this play and the guy who yeah right, the actually is being held up is literally by congress. Compared to a fascist, is anti democratic is say Fucking vile rumour starting point, shit he's a fucking piece of shit on a human level. He wants pure monopoly so that the rich can absolutely crush the poor he's ever they say there against and the guy that apparently believe
is everything they believe has been completely villain, ized in an historical bullshit musical I'll. Never get when someone? I know you to be friends with put up on instagram. How amazing hamilton was I didn't. I didn't. I didn't seen the prairie it was like when before was hugely popular. She had seen it and I was like he's everything were against. but she's like what are you talking about and like he's literally everything we don't believe in, and it's just. I wonder where I spent my right wrong. It's just so fucking crazy, like one in the fucker people doing it's a u this year. This guy writing a musical. I mean, I guess he just took it from the book, but again like maybe cannot you ab
We cannot take a history book. written by a wall street journal wider at face putting value. He probably never thought that it would become a cultural. Like touch point you know to this level, not not absolutely not a music levied at some point, but also ok. Let me put you in limbo. Well, verandas position. Ok, you ve spent eight years. Writing this thing, the the the rhyming this the all of it is. Then, let's say you take it to some guy. I gave my friends are saying as your pride take this like a real historian cause, I guess it base.
The tech writer, what do you think of the guys like well? This is crazy. This is not a piece of shit you're like well, I'm wondering where I could start to kind of like do you feel like if I maybe pulled out the page one rewrite like buddy. This is written about eight years of my life, I'm afraid I'm afraid I'm still going to go ahead with it. I have no choice. It's some of the songs are pretty catchy. You know what I'm saying so, unfortunately tough to hear, but I probably good is still produce the play bribery like italy, layered stuff. When I do this, I mean, but it is, it is crazy to what you say it is. It is crazy, it's crazy! It's it's like it's like so much of the history that gets kind of undone on the show, a little bit where you're just like. Well. Why why why why he fly? Do it like this? Why pick you know why elements
de the bad and well, I saw you. I. also because yet because I mean you think it goes any deeper than that now I think the moraine could have easily just read the book and then I don't know read other fuckin sources erect its there's, not only one history, but hamilton he and you, and whenever you read the shit like I I I go through this, I I write it and then I go god is that true and I I look it up in other places, the problem with the problem with burr. Is that there's the history Is majority lies about what he was, but there's historical record that shows that it Truly. A great example is the dual. The duel very clearly a man
in fact your narrative by his friends when the second said what they said does not match up right. I I guess I I I feel like what you're suggesting and I'm on board with it is that we need to write, burn the response to yeah, I mean yeah, but then I'd have to write. Shitty rap and, like can't do that I'll say also that it also any delay
in of eighteen hundred, when Burma's rp and jefferson jefferson was president. That was like the the the crushing of the federalists and we were on track to just be a pure aristocracy and it started move things back towards more democracy and undoing the damage that hamilton had done sight was like a pretty big elections. Right business, business leaders, fucking, love, hamilton, guys we ve dynamic, has Henry Henry a frick, a monster, worshipped hamilton, also napoleon he worships Andrew Carnegie, andrew melon, put hamiltons faced on the top, dollar bill. These are all horrific, fuckin human beings, rich monsters, they adore hamilton,
The sea liberals now adore hamilton is mind, scrambling bull shit. I am all for also so on character. Oh here it is nine. Nineteen, forty seven postwar congressional report, titled fascism and action listed alexander hamilton as an intellectual inspiration for the nazi regime. Wow, that's the fucking guy that you did a musical about. So no wonder we are where we are in america right now, nobody knows any fucking history he's a bad bad fuckin person do that's amazing. I mean that. Certainly, although I think at one point in the musical he is like look, politics is a game. It's a lot like yacht, see no earthly.
You excuse me: I'm gonna make the blueprint to be a nazi man, that's crazy again, Answer: crazy research by brittany- brow, an and sources fallen, founded the life of aaron burr by Nancy Eisenberg, and then the private journal of edinburgh, the members of amber burr, hamilton and jefferson, a study in care your by Roger kennedy, dave. I'm sorry now sounds like more than one book, which I'm not sure I understand the founding brothers, the revolutionary revolutionary generation by Joseph Ellis american hamper bert airbrush, challenged jefferson's america by David, Stuart life. In times of ehrenberg
the James Parton, the remarkable rise of eliza Jamel by Margaret open hymer, the trees and oh no to that one. Yet the founding feuds by Paul Erin, yeah and then senate, dot, gov and some were not data. If I know we got more man, we're just we're just getting started wow, would you say it's just the beginning, or would that be too much of a reach for you? I don't think I like you.
Would you say then, a little unbelievable, don't know why we do this. Does it make you want to arun away? I'm thinking, I can't believe you wear your winter coat for this all that yeah. Alright, let's have some cake cake time by a baby girl. I love you def love you so much. You mean the world to me. Stop it nope. Let's say we love each other at the end of this, let's treat it say how much we love you. I love you buddy! You love! You! A lot see you later love you! I love so much, but.
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