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Benzene Missouri. I actually didn't know about this case, so it's lesser known one, which is pretty cool. It's about a murder, that happens in a household And the husband said two intruders came in, but the police I think something different so with Aaron. What are we talking about tonight? We're talking about incident that happened on September 28th. One thousand nine hundred and ninety four in Fremont Hills, Missouri, which apparently is very close to Springfield. So in the southern part of the state Justin one things you're fond of saying is small town, this very small town. Apparently back in the nineties, only about a thousand residents lived in this town. When we if a small town we're not trying to be disparaging a lot of all town folks are proud of their small towns, I would be too so yeah, and this is Fremont Hills, and this involves

the mayor of that small town. He was the mayor and he's a banker. His wife was LISA, she was in Ozark Elementary teacher and they had two children in one ninety two. They had purchased a home that cost three in forty two thousand dollars now with inflation, and all that you can essentially double that amount. So this is over a six hundred thousand dollar home and they renovated it. additional hundred thousand dollars. So lots of money going on here. It's a wealthy area and on this particular date something bad happens. This was September. Twenty eighth nineteen. Ninety four at five, a M police officers are dispatched to the home the security system, that's alerted them when they arrive Georgia's at

front door talking on the phone and he says they shot. My wife, they shot my wife, so I hope he'll end up leading the investigators to the bedroom where his wife, If LISA has been in their head, she was taken to the hospital but is declared dead a few hours later. She, Thirty seven years old, their children, were upstairs at the time of the murder and stayed upstairs and their bedrooms even after the officers arrived they weren't initially questioned now it was early morning and if anyone has, in the midwest you have morning, dew, everything's, wet and officers as they approach the home. They didn't see anyone fleeing the home,

they didn't see anyone running from the home any cars at this hour and day I looked around the house and there wasn't any tracks leading away from the house. So if wet grass and you run through it it mashes it down, and yours trail just right off the bat officers don't see any evidence of anyone that has left, though they spoke some of the neighbors- and one of the neighbors actually got a call from the alarm company you would think How did that happen? But in all towns, this alarm, company, they know everybody and they probably installed alarm systems in every home in this neighborhood. So when the alarm was tripped and they couldn't get. Old of George, they called a neighbour and the neighbors said I don't hear see anything going on. I don't know what's happening, also they had newspaper delivery people out that morning

they didn't see anything or hear anything now Garage door was open just a couple feet George's family had a cat and they left the garage just slightly ajar, so the cat I can come and go at night. They were checking to see. If maybe the intruders had gone into the garage and being they couldn't find any signs of forced entry they're, assuming that these intruders entered and left via the garage, but they would have had to have gotten down on like their bellies and local wild, underneath the garage door and entered the house also the family, had a dog and the dogs were not barking. In police arrived after they arrived. The family dogs it. Barking at the police so

again no evidence of any break in no evidence of any shoe prints or boot prints. Anything like that in the grass or on the property. At this point they believe they're, intruders, they're, just take Georgia's word for it because I can't find any evidence so there looking around the home they're trying to see these intruders left any any signs and end up finding a piece of paper in bathroom, but the cat, to the alarm system and they went down into the basement and finding a note from LISA, George's, wife and cursory glance? At that note? It was a written to George talking about her dissatisfaction with the marriage and how she couldn't live like this anymore, doesn't bode well for this situation.

I ended the note by saying that she did love him, but she just couldn't live like that anymore. It definitely something that would cause the person or even the average detective. I would imagine to think this might be a motive, Maybe she wanted to leave him now. George says that he was woken up by the alarm system and he went to investigate. He went into the bathroom to grab his shotgun. But before we could get it. These intruders entered the bedroom and one held a gun to LISA's head and told him to turn off the alarm. When George went to deactivate the alarm, he heard a gunshot and then the alarm went off again. He saw the intruders shoot his wife and then exit through the garage door and that what happened at four fifty seven a m

said the intruders were wearing dark clothes, one was wearing a baseball cap backwards, intruders were wearing masks and they determined that the gun used was a forty five caliber pistol, but again not in really added up with his story, and they couldn't verify his story with any evidence within the home and a big part of that was because there was no. and found that would have come, was LISA's death. In other words, no handgun was found, no murder. What so? Where is it if there were one thing you could point to early on that says: maybe George had nothing to do with this. It's the that the murder weapon is missing. If there were intruders, they must have taken it with them, this looks pretty suspicious, but Juan meant, doesn't have enough to eat. Whose against George at this point, all they have is their guns, Stink of doesn't look

like any one broke into the home. but we don't have a murder weapon, so we're just go: collect evidence, talk to people and then see what pans out and I have to wait long. Do they earn now lay down and that's because they investigate George it turns out. He was embezzling money. He worked. at the Ozark Bank, and he was stealing money from the bank. What better I steal money from right. He was also because he was mayor able, embezzle money from the town wow that x house they bought the renovation they had done were way over budget. So it's shown by his bank accounts that he was pretty much broke. because of this house in his we're spending. What else did they

find about George leading to this murder. They also discovered that he had taken, out. A life insurance policy on his wife to the tune of five hundred thousand dollars, and it was a double indemnity policy. which just means depending what happened to his wife. He could that paying double so If she were murdered or had an accident, then it could pay double for a man with that it could solve his problems. they end up talking to people around town and finding out that George was somewhat paranoid. That's why he had this elaborate security system? stalled on his home and He was in the market, to buy a gun for home defense. He had been. asking people he knew about guns about

what type of weapon would be good for home defense and it seems through conversations with various people that he had to say a upon a forty five caliber handgun, which, as we know, happened to be the same caliber gun used to murder his wife. The things that he had asked about was stopping power which interesting because he had a shotgun that has pretty good. stopping power yeah, and A shotgun is far more intimidating than a handgun, but a shotgun was kept in the other room or according to him, it was so he couldn't get to it in time to save his wife and defend his home and currently these intruders were just there too. hold them hostage and kills wife and then take off. I guess I don't know It almost sounds, like George, is trying to say that the shooting been an accident in other they didn't intend to shoot LISA this

came down to gun. Accidentally went off that they had, actually intended to get money from him. So The Iraq WAR extension attempt. there were events before this. The police were dispatched to the home for a pie. simple prowler. This was actually, the day before and the same officer, officer, Hicks was dispatched and George told him that the motion detector lights had gone off, and he wanted Hicks to chuck around the house, but the sir found nothing and didn't see, any footprints in the grass, nothing to in that any one was around. The home it doesn't mean nobody was there. It just means that officer didn't find anything there, the night before and then a little over twenty four hours later? Something happens so does this I George's story did he have a

to be paranoid. There were some friends of this couple that had hung out with them and talked with them. And one of the conversations they had and and LISA was also saying this, as they are about how there may have been p stalking them or prowling around their home and they were nervous, is the mayor of the town. Maybe he did something that other. The residents didn't like he's, also a bank manager sober app someone might see him as a target if they would like some easy money now officers there. Thinking Bow Europe, investigation. Embezzling money, and you took a life insurance policy for at least the amount that you are in debt for, but possibly double and now your wife has been murdered kind of out of the blue sky.

Oh they're, allowing this embezzlement investigation to proceed while they kind of just collect more evidence and it's March of nineteen. Ninety five George, is charged with eighteen counts of embezzlement, this application of bank funds and money laundering, he pleads guilty to seventeen of those eighteen counts and a we used to serve twenty seven months in prison, but twenty seven months, that's a little over two years law enforcement thinking. We need to go after him for the murder of his wife. Now he wasn't I The following month, in April of ninety five But the trial wouldn't begin until ninety six, because It was a murder and because it look like it was planned. The state wanted to pursue death penalty now can I stop you there,

right, real, quick errand, because I It's thought that the death penalty was used for the most heinous crimes. and I'm not trying to dismiss somebody planned the murder of their wife, but if just first degree. Murder is all you need for the death penalty. Then at least in Missouri. We need not put the definition on the most heinous crimes is what we reserve capital punishment for, because we don't we just throw it out there. Willy nilly a case like this life in prison, should be sufficient that typically how we interpret the death penalty. Unless there was torture, Unless there were multiple felonies committed in the commission of a homicide, we don't use the death penalty, but they're thrown at

they're- and the only reason why bring this up is because It is a capital murder trial when it when the death, multi is on the table. It's hot. For a jury to convict the jury, once all the evidence, the jury, He wants to be. absolutely sure before they end of life. So it's It's a lot easier to put somebody away for life, as opposed to knowing that you're going to have the state kill them. September. Seven. Ninety, ninety five, if was sentenced based on his embezzlement charges, but that's not the most interesting thing that happened. Was it Oh, no. This is where the the plot thickens this, anonymous letter shows up at the Christian County Sheriff's office. This letter is basically a can fashion of sorts. It said

that George rival was innocent of the crime that the crime, so committed by two men who work this is of a man by the name of Ronnie Kessler, who just happened, be George? Reveals half brother and who also died in car accident two weeks before LISA's murder? How convenient the letter explained that RON I had planned to hold George revealed at gunpoint so that he could get to withdraw money from his bank kisses compasses without Ronnie I to go ahead with the plan anyway? But because the shooting of LISA was accidental, they panicked and fled. So what about the codes, the alarm codes that were found on a sheet of paper in the bathroom. Well, it says before the murder. Do you two men broke into the Ravel home to get the alarm codes Also in this letter is

where law enforcement can find the murder weapon, which has been ditched in a pond somewhere in town now they take? this note very seriously and They go to the property where this pond is this property. Was and by Kessler in his wife, so maybe there's some true to this letter. While there is truth to the letter because its in his brother, in law, has half brother and the property is owned by him. They find a gun afforded five caliber pistol at the bottom of this pond, wrapped in duct tape, so at least the gun. The murder weapon is truthful, is anything else. In this letter, the truth, it's up to our listeners to decide take moment

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against George, they have the fan. That nobody saw anyone coming or going from the home that morning, which pay it's five a m in the morning. People are asleep, but they bring in the security company and do a forensic analysis of the law worms and they show that, only one alarm was triggered and it in the bedroom that morning there were multiple alarms, so as you Amber George, said he was awoken to the alarm. To turn it off and then it was triggered again from the intruders in the bedroom. Well, There was only one trigger, and that was in the bedroom and if should have gone off in a house. That's probably gonna trigger the alarm, but areas of the house like the garage or the outside. Nothing was triggered so

this is really going against George and his story about intruders breaking in the defense. Ownership. The alarm system not going off because they claim Lee Sir, had gone to the garage, the night price, where to retrieve some papers and turned off the zone you know the alarm zone of the garage. So therefore, if Somebody entered that way. It wouldn't alert anyone. and then there's the question of the let that LISA wrote and becomes a huge debate during trial because the letter essentially is LISA writing a letter to George saying you have. anger problems, I don't want a big house. I don't want all this stuff just want somebody who loves me and cares about me and I can't live, like this anymore, meaning

the marriage is on the rocks, but this letter is highly disputed in the courtroom, because the defense is saying it's hearsay and deeming it municipal or trying to get it deemed inadmissible where prosecution is saying no. This is relevant and why, and the police questioned George during the interrogation, they asked him how's your marriage going George says it's perfect up until today- meaning it was perfect up and tell murder happen, and then the investigators pulled. The note from LISA and George look completely defeated and they said do you know what this is, and he said yes, Oh George knows that this law exists, and

knows that he's been caught in a lie during the interrogation, but at trial. The defense is trying to say that this note this letter was written years prior to the murder. Where is the state where prosecution can really only prove that it was maybe written six months before the incident. The murder. so the question is is this letter. Is this note here, because what her state of mind, still valid at the time of the murder. Well, you can't say, but I don't think that's exam Ackley how they handle this, because the judge has to make determination here and certainly feels like the judge decided that it may be relevant because much prosecution's case

pens on George and LISA not getting along why else is he asking about a gun? Why is he taking out this life insurance policy? Why there a call the day before why, on the day that he's sentenced, on the embezzlement charges does a share department suddenly get a letter where some explaining, who actually did the crime seems like there are so many convenient thing going on that India hey that George is responsible here. That decides to let it in says where it's. This is our legal system, the act or content of the letter is relevant to the case but the argument is, is sure say, and they really based that off of the time it was written and they

cannot prove that it was written the day before or even any time within the last six months of the murder. So it's a sir. Yes. Point of contention My understanding is that the prosecutor Kenny he hauls off is really the reason why this court found in the prosecution's favor because he's very good making making little things into big things, and what I mean by that is, he finds the snow, and since we really know when it was written for sure don't really know how relevant it is to the case, we just know at one time their marriage was not perfect. It was far from perfect because it sounded like LISA wanted out, but that's what he's telling the judges is this, state of mind. This explains, why she died and I think he was able to convince them

it's just that simple and defence is saying: commands hearsay. We don't have her to tell us how relevant this note. Is we all I don't know when it was written. So how do we know it has anything to do with this? Why couldn't it? Just b to intruders, who shot LISA and fled and their police just but not to find any evidence of an intruder, a very valid assessment because you can go into a house Somebody and leave and not leave any evidence, touch anything you're, not leaving any fingerprints if you're not running through the grass you're, not leaving footprints, you can. Enter a home and leave a home, especially if the garage door is ajar. And not leave any evidence and they find the duct tape on the gun they claim that matches duct tape in the house, but the duct tape, duct tape.

How do you match it mean if I go to hardware, store and buy a roll of duct tape and you go to a hardware store and buy that same role. Well. This is The town is probably only one or two brands of duct tape that you can buy at that time. The defense, is really hammering. All the circumstantial evidence home, but how you explain the alarm system, not triggering how'd. You explain that this guy wasn't dead. He was embezzling money and taken an insurance policy out on his wife was going to pay him out and save the day, a financially also life insurance policies. They don't just tenue on for eternity you have to continue to pay on them to keep them up to date and this life insurance policy only survival it was about to expire. The sky was in debt. So who knows if he could have kept that policy going? This is what, prosecution tells the jury. They say, George!

killed his wife, so he get the insurance money to take care of his debt as just like she mentioned in her letter to him, Joe Chad, a thing for material possessions and with the house in anything else. He was a part of he wanted so big they just sustained that now, at the rate he was going so had to do is point to that. They pointed to George lying because he lied. the police, that's what Note shows that's another way. This note is important. At least to the process in case it showed things weren't perfect, that's he reacted. The way he did. They said his face fell he realized what they were holding them prosecution really hammers home that this proves that the which was on the rocks and Is it as motive the security

the company they determined that there couldn't have been an intruder in the home. So this is looking four George but their defense there, and argue that there was no evidence tying him to this crime, but while they're saying that I think they're having problems, because the prosecution has been putting up fact after fact, as they call it showing that George had every reason and every motive and every opportunity to commit this crime and they didn't have any evidence anyone else's involvement, even more damning, they allow that, while George was walking around the house on the phone he was also hiding the gun and they claim that after the police left. He then able to move the gun to this pond, though, that was insinuating that he was not guilty, while they're saying keep that letter he said, to the sheriff's office. Both I'd have their points, but both sides

we are looking at the others. Evidence and saying. Well, that's alleged or that's just circumstantial how'd. You know he get the gun before the cops came and then dumped it in the pond and then wrote a letter but looking at the Sahara and, I think know that's the per long game of trying Get yourself off for a murder is You say somebody broke into the house, murdered your wife, you the murder weapon you dump it somewhere and and you write a letter giving law enforcement just enough information to make it credible, hints saying where the murder weapon can be found is that makes these intruders that were hired by his half brother a real too. This whole letter is credible. Believe me, but it's

convenient distance, it's a tourney Bell went he tried his best. I mean he's so there's nothing tying him. The letter tested, there's nothing to show but he was connected to it. At any point, he's all talking about the embezzling. That happened he's trying to say that while George did it, where's family I believe that he was doing it because you love material things. He's actually doing this to give his family a wonderful home which, while they're, trying to build his character up before the jury. After the prosecution is tearing it down, it's very difficult job so again. This letter that piece of wrote the prosecution maintains his maybe six months old, the defenses in its two to three years old, the judge make a call on it and the judge that you know this is heresy, but it's so relevant to the case. So, of course it stays in

Justin there's nothing more crucial to the process This case in this note right. Well, if your phone, guilty? And the defense is going to appeal to your case than absolutely they're, going to put all the on this. This note, but I think there is a lot of other it's here, there's a lot of other things that point to guilt. besides the letter- but a court of law yeah. This letter was the pivotal. Piece of evidence for the state I I say it's the crucial because it's one thing to say: why all this circumstantial evidence that suggests that George was behind the murder, but this letter from his own wife to him it's Basically saying he has anger issues that you can't live like that anymore, and this Water was found in his stuff was found

his things he kept the letter. This is something that will get into later, but they d, will later try to use that their vantage. So a jury spent about nine hours, deliberating February, 11th, one. Ninety six, Georgia, convicted of capital murder and received life in prison without any pain. ability, parole and that's as the jury said no to the death penalty, which I say is appropriate based on the facts and evidence included in this case. So I think it's just, but you know the defense, is going to appeal and absolutely going to look at this letter. Has hearsay should have not been deemed admissible for the trial. The defense dept only tries to bring up many points. Twelve point it's of error, but the court after reviewing them only consider two and so

This is the quote: this court, only Looks to whether there is sufficient evidence from which we while could have found that guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and of course is inadmissible. Hearsay letter, as they knew it was definitely being reviewed. Before we go on Jess. We should talk about this. when you have something that's inadmissible, hearsay talking about a crucial, piece of evidence that might be withheld from a court room. What are they trying to do at that? Are they trying to make the case harder on the prosecution that they're trying to make the prosecution's job more difficult, they're just trying to defend their client. They want prejudicial evidence. That is not based on facts not based on anything relevant, and they see this letter as being prejudicial and when it was written, can

be verified so they're not going to they don't going in this, was beyond what a defense might want. This is part of the justice system's attempt to be fair to defendants, because, difficult enough. If you have a charge against you of murder, your you're already working from the round up here at a disadvantage from the start. We ve talked about this many times. It doesn't matter that you're innocent till proven guilty many times It feels like you're guilty. a proven innocent to me, this is protection for people in other words, let's put the bulk of the Wrist ability on the prosecution to get this right. They'll have to work for it prejudicial evidence like this can make their job so much easier because they can point to and say you don't Ub sap here on the stand, LISA Revell was murdered, but we do something she wrote to her husband and will read

at to you in court today when they do that there, basically bringing in a purse, who's has been murdered and allowing them to speak, but really getting their words you're, getting a note that they wrote months or years ago and so They can manipulate this to their own end, and that's where the court, I think, has a duty to look out for defendants, even if we believe them to be guilty. There has to be said protections. Otherwise, prosecutions would have a much ease. time well and I I I agree with the sentiment there. I agree with we need to. we need to do everything in our power to defend the accused, its interesting to me that in so many other cases stuff like this. Is absolutely admissible, not even challenge,

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and were used to get a conviction of a defendant then I would still argue that this war case they got it right they needed to do this because the playing field has to be equal, and this would make it very unequal. I would argue. And that's what happened. We saw that George Rebel was convicted. He was given life sentence so when the court, is reviewing this. They're, seeing what we saw, which was this is a very prejudicial letter and you argue that it's relevant but you're not arguing I'm a factual stand. Standpoint You mean you're saying this is what she was thinking and that she continued to feel that same way up until her murder. But there is an evidence of that. In fact some are argue.

Let's just say it was six slash: eight months old will go with prosecution's timeline then why hadn't she left him why hadn't she even for a divorce or anything they were still weather. So maybe Georgia's story of well, we patched things up and There's something else. He said we patch things up, and I kept that letter as a reminder of how bad things can get it not to let it get that way again. but we just don't know what LISA was thinking or feeling around the time of her murder. The defense appeals on a bunch of Points about the case, one of them was The judge should have recused himself, because obviously George was the mayor of the town and had dealings with. The judicial system, but at no point, in the first trial. Did the defense costs the judge to recuse himself. So as we

say was that strategy? Was that just something missed? I don't know, if you can retro if go back and say the judge should have use themself unless you have absolute proof that there was a conflict of interest. So rebel got a retrial November one. Ninety seven, the Missouri Court of Appeals vacated his conviction. They said that note was in it. well here say just as the defense was asking for them to say: and so it should never have been included as ever since in his trial the retrial happened December of T. Ninety eight, then this time we have different attorneys just in the prosecutor is nickname doktor death. If that's not foreboding enough Apparently he was very aggressive in getting sentences and the

the attorney now representing George, was named. Sean asking us. He too, I from my understanding is a very respected defense attorney care is very much about defendants rights so get this jury for this retrial from Henry County Missouri, which is about one hundred and ten miles away from Ozark and the defense. This time is much more well equipped to defend their client one because they don't have this letter. Hanging over them in the court, but also because they start to go over the evidence a little harder. They say that this sheriff's department really didn't investigate this letter other than they drained the PA. I didn't, found the gun, on them to look into a further. They wanted them to track down the people. In the letter this was letter that had been sent to the sheriff's department, claiming at George Orwell was innocent yeah, but his half brother died

prior, so that was sort of a dead lead, a dead end. There was no lead there, so, but what about the two men named in the letter, the sheriff apartment didn't really look in this. They did try to find out who he was connected with if he had made most anyone around the time they judge. Well, we don't believe it essentially being that Ronnie Kessler, his half brother died, before the murder. I I don't know how much the police officers could have investigated that. I know that or to intruders, but did Have any leads for those two people being that the bridge the half brother was dead like us they could have looked at phone records. They could have done something and all that defense attorney is saying, is if your to dismiss evidence without looking into it? Then why we take you seriously? There was just

no attempt, I think all they did was they attempted to find finger, prints or dna on the ladder to see if it would, George there's something, that's kind of interesting. I don't know what you make of it, but LISA's autopsy. There were photos, during that and the photos were missing and, of course it said that too the lead investigators may have taken the photos, so they weren't available anymore, so they it's kind of makes a big deal out of this because well, this is missing evidence and again theirs never a case. That's perfect and whether there are missing autopsy photos somebody is guilty or innocent. I don't know but it does show that there is missing evidence and there's some wrong with the case well, SK analyses the defense attorney was able to

figure out why these photos may have been misplaced and that because in one of them one of these detectives had placed his hand. over LISA's chest and it was said that the same detective had made crude comments because he had never seen an autopsy of a woman with breast implants. So where you in the first trial, George there was under fire wall? this retrial- the defense attorneys going after in the Gators now and saying these are the people leading the investigation- and this is What's coming out of their mouths? That's what success I think George appears very suspicious. I think there is a lot of evidence against him, but during the investigation? If you pull pranks like that, it

disrupts all your credibility in the face of a jury. It was known that investigators spent about a thousand hours and the revolt home looking for any kind of evidence they were found the murder weapon there. So, of course, defense attorney is saying they, that much time in the home and never found the gun how, was he able to hide the gun there and then move it? upon later, how did he trick the detectives detect gives had tunnel vision and we're looking at George, but then the detectives are also incompetent and unable to find the murder weapon in a home that the defence of saying wasn't there in the first place also defined. brings in an alarm expert named Jeff, these weren't puri, it's the rebel home alarm system? He can show how an intruder or intruders could break and easily, and that's because

the alarm system wasn't properly programmed or installed he disk. Wiped it as untrustworthy A lot of time is spent on this and really what he's doing, as which the obvious, is they're, saying, You know that alarm system that security systems are, the security company said was showing No one entered the home. Well, they don't know what you're talking about. We have an expert in the court room whose in quite a lot of time showing how this is not a trustworthy alarm system. don't believe any of that they're breaking this? a stone and the prosecution is having a hard time on this retrial and When you do look at each of the pieces they're all extremely suspicious they're, all very convenient but in a court of law to prove

any single point here, because the murder weapon wasn't found at the home did security system work properly because you don't see footprints leading away from the house. Does that mean nobody ran away from the house? Now it doesn't. So I think. common sense shows at George. Probably did this beyond reasonable doubt, that's what have to prove in a court of law and How does this second trial goer. the things that I read was that because this security expert was so good, This testimony was showing how this alarm system was untrustworthy, that the state, even bring on an expert to counter him. It's it's like they said yeah. They beat us there the jury decided on December thirteenth. Ninety ninety eight, that George, should be acquitted and

that's something I think a lot of people have a hard time with. Just because there are so many circumstance, no pieces in this case that say, George must have done it but this is why we have a trial. Is you have these experts, after each other, trying to prove their cases It just so happened that, while ask him ass, he did one hell the job proving that George was. guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And so the jury had to do what was right and acquit him. As far as this a life in this policy in an interesting move. His children receive the one million dollars I say it's interesting because George was the only recipient, but the children got the money. George,

He's more good news, because on December 17th of the same year, he was released from his federal embezzlement sentence. I'm torn on Because This is how our system should function. this is reasonable doubt, but I'm all the evidence here and I'm just thinking to myself. There is the evidence pointing to his brother hiring people to Do a home invasion and extra money from George and his wife. There is less evidence of bat than George plan The murder of his wife just because you have more check boxes in one than another, doesn't get to that threat of beyond a reasonable doubt. So I think that George probably plan this and did this, but I can't really fault the court systems. Here the check boxes

at least for me are usually what do I think, but of course, is that threshold, when it is to an actual conviction. I think, this case Askinosie says it best when he said that if George W the thank someone for his freedom. He should be thanking Jeffreys worrying because That's where he really feels this case was one once they got leases, let we're out of the way, then is all on the secure system. How did these? entered the home, if we believe security system work properly and that shows and you're the one who brought this up when we talked about it, that there were no intruders because when he fired the gun that set the alarm off. But if you I trust the alarm system if it's garbage they may vary well I've been then that doesn't matter anymore. You can't you the security system to show anything, but if covered cases like this before just and where we think one way an whose truly guilty

but we also respect how the court acted, because it needs to be fair. People have rights. We spent so much time talking about the? Britain's relevance or possible. Hearsay LISA's note to her husband, george- and this is the note. To George from LISA, maybe This is the only form you will read like an no I can't Tell you anything without feeling your anger. I'll try to write down my feelings. I am very. cared about our marriage and our family. I can't continue living this way? I'm afraid of you afraid of your anger and your silence. I find me, self telling the kids not to bother you. I find myself tiptoeing around the house, and I won't do it anymore life's too short for this garbage. If you can't talk to Then find someone you can talk to. your indecision about your job are home.

the thing right now has nothing to do with me find out why you're stalling? I don't want big new home or a Mercedes or a high land membership I only want someone who loves me and accepts me as I am. I need someone Cares what I think and wants me to be a part of his life. What do you want? I've often thought that it would be easier if you were having an affair. At least that would be something tangible I could deal with, but I don't know how to deal with this. I've tried give time, but nothing happens and you don't seem to want it to change. U P, we don't even believe anything is wrong. Just to live in a house together. Isn't enough, I try to find out about your work, but you cannot reply When did you ever ask me about summer school classes? I want to be part of your life, and maybe you don't care about mine, but it be honest enough to tell me, hurt and alone, and the kids feel it too. I see Stan shutting down his feelings too and me sad candidacies, Just plain angry and I know she can feel my pain and your anger

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