I want to let you know. In November six we're gonna be in Baltimore November, eleventh word Tempi, Arizona November Twelve through do in LOS Angeles and studio city November, nineteen LOS Angeles and studio city and then Thanksgiving weekend in Portland Oregon GO to Jimmy Jimmied or Canada confirming for all those tickets. Sliding down the street and jobs and to show so happened in Virginia right. This is the key election day Virginia what happened so Terry Mccall I've lost he's a corporate right wing Democrat. What happened. Why did they lose well, we offered voters nothing

and again it didn't work. What our We doing wrong weak offering them nothing. Hey somebody s care I think she's got this. She could tell you what happened. I act it would be scarier at this point, if the Democrats were actually trying to win because they're, not you I'm not the other guy failed again. Yes, I'm not the. The guy is not a strategy and you want to hear what Anderson Cooper said. This is what this is, what get passes for news analysis see CNN and now you know why they're trying to squash channels like this, because they can't compete, listen what he says how much of this is a message just the Democratic Party that it's too far left. How much is this? The Democrats are too far left, that's literally what he said: okay got stop running radical progressives like Terry Mccall of

who was, let me check notes. He was the culture of Build Clinton's. Ninety six campaign. He was the german the Dnc from all one two o five. He was the German of Hillary Clinton, always eight presidential campaign he's a millionaire former banker and real stayed guy. While they can't let themselves to drift that far left. That really what the problem it. Here's mats dollar friends of the show I love that Mccall of couldn't attack young kids, Carlyle Group so so Young skids who's, the republic in was at this moment hedge fund, and he says he couldn't attack- is hedge fund. because the call it was an investor Carlyle Jack The President Bush, the first President Bush was a board member of that after he left off

Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats wait wait ago. Mats dollar nicely said nicely done at closure form show that Terry Mccall of personally invest in Carlisle groups, investment vehicles plus an energy fund Mccall US wife also invested alongside Carlyle Partners for Mccall of all who invested in private equity funds managed by firms like Alliance, in polite in capital group, so our baker- unite us theirs, That's the one party that there's one party, it's the money party and that's the party. friend of the show Ben Spielberg said Corporate Democrat Terry Mccall of just lost a very winnable election. If pundits working system in their elect ability, analysis. The news to me would be dominated by commentary about how corporate policies are a political liability for Democrats, but no

You're gonna get his Anderson Cooper GO. I think there went too far left what was what was that about Terry Mccall of I think he eats with his left eye. Leaky bats right throws left. I think that's what it is you want to see how lefty bill dietary Mccall? If is in Virginia, he was a door. By Bill Crystal that I have the leading conservative in America. Your bill crystallized endorse my campaign. Forego he's bragging about that bill crystal. Did you know that Nick bill Crystal the doors very MC. All of this was the entire democratic establishment been rejected because you have come here is down there. I didn't how did the american people react Brok Obama's before April, much to avoid additional spending? Don't write anything

he gave rise because that way tell People- and this is their response. So this is always the lie in day they want take down, can have been a media for misinformation. This is misinformation, omby apathy and in the right way, scumbag their pain, ass, a sort of letters. He was a guest, qualified immunity, Jimmy cases, Christ Republicans support giving qualified immunity that, if you look at the balls Quantum leap he's too the right every poverty of our law enforcement and at the guiding say some kind of Letty. either the vain thought just show you, people qualified immunity is one cops, commit violence against the citizen, it super hard to sue them and in court or prosecute them. Because of what this that there's a special cut out for them in the law, com, qualified immunity, and so they and get rid of that turn. Mccall of does it he as Nix S, reply Look, it's gonna, get rid of that and even Terry Mcculloch to the right so this but Anderson

Cooper Italian Lefty but lit here. It is he's bragging Ladys, getting endorsed by one of the biggest Neil Cons in the world. Warmongering, bloodthirsty maniac, build bill crystal and and guess what the shit lives tell him bill Crystal adores. What will be big trust me? That's Jennifer! Four Reuben she's from the watched imposed right. Isn't that who? That is? Yes, so that's house, that's the shit lives I think she but dm that to him. I don't think she would you really should it tweeted that out bill. So I think that kind of Norsemen could tell torpedo his camp. I think you did, but in furnace he'll Crystal never saw torpedo. He didn't like on my right Gabon. By the way, should he got all the lefties out here Randy Widened garden spoke. It too, could you As someone with She has negative charisma. She is

posted to the voting voters of America. She is the corrupt hundred percent corrupt pray. Of the teachers Union that, so you got. You got another person whose cat captured by corporations a corrupt union leader who has negative charisma. hey, let's bring her out. Somebody reinforces every bad stereotyped that you ever had a teacher, who she is. If you ever hear A teacher she's gonna remind you of that teacher related work, for you, that's so that so he teamed up with. So he teamed up with Bill crystal eating up with the Lincoln Project worked we're coming for you. I I think they meant that the term Mccall of made them come Then that's the link and meet all the Lincoln Project is right. There, a bunch of fuckin crazy.

Neil Con Right wingers, who just didn't like Trump but third some of the earth there? The Lincoln brow? Jack. Do you want to know what the Lincoln Project did this? They did a stunt where they try to make. This is what they did, after rumours, circulating that the stunt was la, so what they did was they think hired these guys to dress up like the tv towards races, guys and go pretend that they were supporting the Republican for governor was quickly found out. There was We see that's a stunt. Obviously there was a sigh are paid for by Terry Mccall of oh well. It was the Lincoln Project. Actually, after rumours circulating that the study was launched by young students, political, for centuries. The Lincoln project claimed responsibility. It was later revealed that the demonstrators were paid by the non profit to position themselves, as white supremacist affiliated with young skin as part of eight

information campaign against him for there's the Democrats. Do Exactly what they blamed the Russians for doing to doing a complete fake news, this information programme- that's a sire programme being funded by the Lincoln Project. The Democrats buddies it. Oh I'd I don't know if I can come- I mean that's a good plan. I mean it started. We better than me keep the promises that you made to the voters it separately. But how will you just try that. And by the way, here's what Glenn Greenwood said about a democratic party, operatives, MSNBC analyse and their lives. in project allies, got caught perpetrating a deliberate fraud. Today, all with racism and racist discourse as their plaything. other yanking you around trying to pressure morality, button by using racism, their yanking, you know

None of those people will suffer any career consequences because their circles are happy that they did this. It's ok to lie. They they became what they claim to hate liars fraudsters, manipulators fake purveyors of fake news, who's in conspiracy theories. That's what the Democrats are why, because they owe their owned by the same fuckin, people think the Lincoln Project, Terry Mccall, if Yoke and they all- are owned by the same fuckin people, so that's all they can run on is critical. This theory or bathrooms, or tiki torches that all they can run on. Cnn. James clapper gets caught lying to the Senate scene and hunters Andrew Mackay. gets caught lying to the FBI, CNN hunters Lincoln Project gets caught Perpetrating a racist fraud and seen invites them on CNN

why does nobody trust us and watch us huge mystery, huge mystery? Jill Rogan, Dwarf CNN numbers Wild this show, does better than CNN Obama sharply criticised this junk in Virginia race. So Got Obama to go down there and give up that bullshit speech that we already talked about that speech reads: Everybody don't expect anything. Biden, lays into Trump while campaigning for Terry Mccall. So there is still running it gets trump they get because they got nothing to offer. You. by, but you bite, it doesn't even know trumpets and present anymore. I mean this is the guy who thought he's got it off, member, but that he was the guy who thought he was run for Senate. He probably thinks trumps running for governor yeah man, what your brother whoever's at all. It is don't don't tell

this Virginia Comma Harris rallies from the call of in dumb freeze, don't Texas Virginia, she says patchy. way better plan that keeping promises the voters. You know what a Terry MECCA lost with the entire political establishment behind him. NEO liberalism is debt, exhausted it just it. They just gonna pass it back and forth between Republicans Democrats, Democrats lean hard and de culture wars because they are either one lefties. You can't read room our establishment monkeys you'll want to deliver on anything else. The ladder get campaign on January. Six than Trump is bad because they don't want to actually fight for policies for the people. Terry Mccall. If it's just another shitty cotton Democrat in a long line of shady Clayton Democrats,

They are no longer capable of beating Trump ISM unless the country is in the throes of a massive crisis. Like a paddle, MC or an economic depression, that's right if it wasn't in a pandemic, Joe Biden would not be Trump Trump lost causes the pandemic congrats. Terry Mccall, if on the upcoming MSNBC contract or a corporate lobbyists position as from our guest today all too wide team or even richer dollar, says I have views on what Democrats are doing wrong politically, but the basic issue is that we are out of touch. I've never seen such wildly pro labour sentiment in America in my lifetime, but the democratic governing class has no connection to the working class. None zero, Is there in bed with white collar? Superb night voters and Wall Street, that's withered, chucks humor said

for every blue collar worker. We lose we're. Gonna pick up a white collar voter in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania Illinois New can repay member that Erika I seen a better example of this problem. Talking about the Democrats being out of touch with workers, he hasn't seen a better example of this. Then. Terror Mcgowan, who literally ruined the Iowa caucuses with an app that couldn't count votes and yet silicon Valley, billionaires just bestowed her with tens of billions of dollars Mcgann. Once husband, Michael Hale, ran than the call of camp aid. If I was a democratic party, I would simply pay The bills are wildly popular, it will improve. looks lives, and then I run on them when the next election. That sounds like violence. So here is one result in their nick. Have you heard this there's this?

critique going around now, and I want to talk I did. So Biden is Ben, Mr Prodi, Jab. vaccines for everybody and to the where the head of the vaccine department at the F a resigned over Joe Biden Unscientific push for these boosters and now the Bush made no news. We do we Should it here on the show every every day, but no one else mentions that and now the person who is standing in the way of Joe Biden. Bullshit is now out of the way so now what five eleven well, you're gonna start getting vaccinated. So here's what mats dollar says that dollar. You know he's an insider guy. He knows what's happening inside Washington says. Biden has not handled the pandemic well because he has empowered media rebuke rats like forty to make political choices when the country is decided it prefers normalcy, to endless panic and control our system.

Laura nobody's, weren't unmask, nobody scared, a covert everybody's live in their life, and they the lowest covert rates in the country, they decided to treat it why could you can treat covered with monoclonal turns out? You could Katrina and their eighty five percent effective. So if you have a cold morbidity and you're, not elderly, you you get, you can cover, you get your monoclonal you'll, be fine. The Democrats are facing a real dilemma when it comes to covet post vaccines, most people water resume a more or less normal life, but are not insecure. If a kid minority remains fairly scared and locked in there Goddamn apartments, like Chomsky, that latter group is dead, superb, proportionately democratic. This won't be easy to navigate. So all the Democrats, savage vaccine vaccine vaccine. That's all there doing there not getting you

healthcare, the not giving you a minimum wage they're, not giving student debt relief there now giving you better working in their not given you anything except men. AIDS and vaccines. and people are ready to give an basques mandates. Beth block downs, mandates and Basques, that's all there giving you and people are done with it. That's what these people on the left or say Mats dollar goes, ices liberals, just don't get it the pandemic, can covert our different things, covert, the disease, the pandemic is a politically concern determination guilty saying we are. Not in a flu pandemic, because we have decided politically that the flu is something we have to deal with in a north society. It makes you sick depends. because a rationale for making lots of public policy decisions about who can travel, who can work, get educate

sell medicine and so forth, covered decline as the pandemic continues, and vice versa, so a pandemic is something you decide. Your in at an end It is also something you decide your in. When do you side you're at an endemic when this country decides we're gonna fuckin live with it. So you see those are countries opening up dead. Sweden, Norway, Iceland, their opening back up, not because they beat covered, but because I've decided we're going to live with that people who get covered have a point. eight nine percent hospitalization rate underwear, percent of the people get covered and a possible allies. the majority of them are people who are obese, Co, morbidity or elderly. the rest of the world should go on with their life. That's what they're saying that's what matters say. That's the that

big deal. People are ready to go out with their life, yet there's a big minority of Democrats who are scared to death and still shooting their pants over big farm of fear propaganda that has been played at them, targeted at them through Pfizer, Pfizer, owned media. That's what's going on, So what are you? What are you make that nickel me bring? A knickers from friendship for him to left is what would you make that critique about that? What we The Democrats are offering them anything, but this pandemic then with their handling. It is horrible. This exactly where we Messina random letters on letter which a wolf was also making this point. this was a giant funny for the latter to connect with people down there with the mandate and

policy that a democratic party implemented during the cold they crisis, because we ve been highlighted by the day Mr Jain Opportunity, because we ve seen them gave washed in his last election. You mention before our twelve laws, because the Kohen ideas, as also because he is a giant opportunity. They all do of Egypt where Healthcare they dont bite into democratic party. They legalised marijuana nationally. Furthermore, they will win. I did this not complicated issue knotted, because the grid You don't want to Lincoln Project that. That's why we're gonna call independent media Gretel, but as the biggest grit in part today, the Lincoln prodded they millions of dollars day bigger, donated from fit live in a mood elections, the deed, it was the biggest gripped tender asian politics. They in easy when these is buying having good policy by Mayfair. He.

ok, forgive us everywhere. He care for, but I dont and aching don't care if they lose as a result of their and our people and warn people about is no matter how they feel in their low neo. Liberal group think where they approve a mandate, but we know management, not problem on the working class in Lahti below uprising because of their environment. Allude these elections in s, gonna play a giant thought of that, because I don't like that on the working class of people that they need. Their vote. Not gonna come out, because now that I've been disappointing because once again it may police either making over about to go to war, does the right did because said a draft law because of all the money I think from either gotta one election educated would occur. Yeah he's gonna easily so that to his base, because Turkey, Does anyone here the tarmac formula? Yo weaken our paper gear? call a patriot girls. Unlike that enabled before you go. This is a national currency. We need pay. America's went down out of my compatriots, you be

I then they will work for it. If you do that, never went dropbox happen. We gave you would I went on payments gave a wheelchair baby you can set up. You can usually one so we, both parties. They are I'd lose in order to make our data character. Donors, is a game to them because they lose that I mentioned before they could make. The Corbett, Lobbies, Dana Dago contract as a media institution ache and become rich. It just a game, but let's keep going so here. I think that I think that democratic coming costs in ways that we don't I recognise that are annoying and offensive and seemed out of touch in ways that I don't know to open our feeds, we're looking at it is our kind of echo chamber, and I think that is a message here. Yeah The message is stopped so annoying stop being so authoritarian start doing something for people that makes their lives better. Look so right now they just go

the reconciliation, but there's nothing in it. They got rid of. we think that would help people- and this is great little love thread Bay, then, what you know? To what extent do you support or oppose the following components of the build back better plan paid family? Medical leave for new parents. Seventy percent people support it Medicare to negotiate prescription drug prices. Seventy two percent of the people support it, adding until envision benefits the Medicare eighty two percent of people and endorse that. Well, guess what a strong pretty divisive as an app is a net divisive, The damaged by the weight Democrats already cut all that shit out of the bill. Thirty out there's, no actual political representation in America. Complete regulatory cap sure by private interests. So all we have is culture warship? That's all we have. We can argue on critical race theory in what bathroom

you can use it. can somebody say: let's go brand in on a plane. That's what they're talking about what when eighty percent of workers on page after page it with its nuts two hundred thousand people are dead. Who should be alive right now that died in the last year because they don't have healthcare two hundred thousand people would still be alive today from covered, but thou there but do is give you a job. They want to give you healthcare and that's why the Democrats are gonna lose, but it doesn't matter they'll? Just then the Republicans will get in power they'll suck, and then the Democrats will win its just. They just passed a torch back and forth. They just work for the same people, sorry Democrats, but this is what happens when you break all your promises to voters these votes, didn't abandoned the Democrats. The Democrats abandoned the voters. Perhaps emailing student debtors were turning

student loan payments back on, didn't bring Virginia Democrats to the poles because that's what's happening, they're, going to reinstate stood alone. Payments are starting next year right in February, I think corporate Democrat Terry, but call of just lost a very winnable election. If pundits uglier. Do you read that one Democrats, hate working P both so much. They brother lose political power than an act as single popular policy that helps us. added rob, I don't know if they hate workers. They certainly have disdain for them, but they love their donor catch and solid, is, and it's not just donor catch it they know they can get a job in that private, Sector, whatever they came on, if they do the bidding of a corporate donor, here's another thing hate Terry Mccall, if don't ever dance What is it with politicians? Elizabeth Warren did? This too, is the worst thing you could do. Joe Biden

actually handled this. The right way watch this. but what does it mean Hey. Hey we, I owe you a bit MR sister sister, MR it's worth it. What is it doing? That's the one I've, Joe Biden gotta right just stand there, don't move, ok point at somebody, got it Neo liberal does nothing to your soul. Men are promising. So that's it. that's my breakdown of what happened in Virginia? What's going to keep happening and for me the only silver lining here is that the people, probably our waking up and they realise that we need a another made. your political party in America. Now the Green Party is

drawing since the nineties, and I don't think they're gonna make it because they haven't and biggest opportunity was last year and they completely shit the bet they elected a mumble mouth guy, who repeated CIA talking boys and they're supposed to be a third party. So so they got wiped out. So the people's party that so we gotta look forward to. We look forward to a third party, get debates, putting pressure on them and changing political discourse. That's all we have. I mean elect Really? That's all we have to do what what else should we be doing neck that's, why we hold in Germany by some speakers I'm a big fan of horizontal movements and open direct pressure on establishment Adina should be our primary focus. Will you can do that through our parties when they did not like? Is you can easily have by grief?

either you why people, organizing coordinated, strive together in organ or, and I then fight against us. I was bent together, and this is the kind of let me move them that we need The child is down in primitive of all out attack against us out. What for you see, how willingly the desert them grass or wanted to sell you out in order to protect our party. That's what That's exactly what they're doing when If I were to neoliberal clocks Now that we are doing so, you can't trust Dorothy. We can trust a top down approach and therefore we haven't drove her son. So we can talk about strategy where we can take the power back ourselves. What we can come together, has left a community and broker powerful pressure on establishment do hurting the economy we have to work. Can people view that is that as an find summit

yeah yeah we're going to be streaming all. Next weekend it was Jennifer ten, a dot m to ten p dot m. I know you going to be joining us Saturday, but we got a great lineup of guests that we ask and labour leaders within between what the history of drugs, I didn't famous agreed a probable labour event. and I think we need to start Friday and where that's because while people were at knowledge that having a general strike and striking against the capitalist class is hard, especially, interstate that to state the left is in there right now, so opposition it ok if it's let's get started so, whether These were very desirable, fry four: do not worry Don T cry not as far as a we need further communication process, so we can achieve our organised a set of just do understand. Will we trust partitions right? I got you

as everybody check that out next weekend, Fred have left is hosting the general strike summit. I want to let you know: in November six we're gonna be in Baltimore November. Eleventh word, Tempi Arizona November twelve or doing in LOS Angeles and studio city November, nineteen LOS Angeles and studio city, and then Thanksgiving weekend in Portland Oregon GO to Jimmy gotta, Jimmied or Canada confirming for all those tickets. No, we are not anti backs at this show. We are anti mandate right and that is supposed to be the lefty position and doktor Should we have treated this out yesterday to made some news. It says it's not pro verses, anti vaccine. The issue is class struggle employers dictates mandates become intolerable? for employees, record job quitting, plus brought strikes plus refusals of mass backseat mandates, say yes, So I just want to remind everybody that doctor ritual sustained

and very solid ground when he says this, because this is done. Doktor Fouche E, when he first asked about mandates it last year, bugged, ten months of twelve months ago, and you force that the vaccine might be mandated for any populations, perhaps for school age, children? No, I don't think you'll ever see a mandating of vaccine, particularly for the general public, sometimes in the health sector like my hospital here at an age, I'm going to be allowed to go on the ward, unless you get a flu vaccine but you would never mandate. At least I do not think you would. I be pretty a surprise. as if you mandated it for any element of the general public. Now as a primary care, physician myself, whose had many conversations around vaccine safety with patients, I'm curious. What what's our contingency plan for people who might

fuse the vaccine? Well, I mean they have every right to refuse vaccine out of that Unita. Contingency plan of someone refuses to them. seen in the general public, then this nothing, you can do about that. You cannot for someone to take a vaccine. Ok, I was doktor voucher a year ago. Harris also Nancy Policy here, go so here's the thing we are. We cannot require someone to be vaccinate TAT S, not what we can do, it is a matter of privacy to know who is your? Who isn't so? It seems like profound. She energy policy are talking about a principle and those are the principles that left are supposed to be adhering to, and so that that's about. Well, if the designed changes that we can bed, that's not what they're saying at all there saying no you can't do this as a matter of principle, Joe Biden, was also asked last year, he was present Elect. Are you gonna do

force mandates and here's what he says: a uniform mandates. No, I don't think we manage I wouldn't demand be mandatory, but I will do everything in my power. A second don't think mask has to be made mandatory nationwide, but now people are thinking different be this is from the sale you it's as far from compromising them vaccine mandates actually further civil liberties. They protect the most prominent all people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated and community. of color hit hard by the disease now. What is the argument against that? Well, first of all, it's funny. that they put liberty and mandate of one sentence? That's very funny era. But Maloney, who invented the MRI, Nay vaccine technology, retreated then said wars, peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance of strength, but here's the ark. Here's the argument against what the ACL you just said the the crowd of virus immunity. Passports are not. The answer. Assist

of immunity passports in the United States threatens to exacerbate racial disparities. harm. The civil liberties of all any immunity passport system endangers privacy rights by creating a new surveillance infrastructure to collect health data and immunity. Passports is would divide workers into two classes, the immune and the non immune, and the latter might never be eligible for a given job short of contracting and surviving covert nineteen. If an immune worker is available to take the slot, given the law, lack of scientific support for reliable immunity, determinations no significant policy Vision should currently be made on the basis of presumed immunity. There better ways to both advance public health and protect individual rights that we should fall. Hassan, in order to emerge from this crisis without creating a new privacy, invasive data infrastructure that threatens everyone's rights and who The police said this: who wants to give

the counter narrative the argument against the ACL you well, it turns out. It was the assail you that's what the ACL you used to always think, like all lefties think, but now ever what has changed your mind from FAO cheat to policies to Biden the goddamn acl you which we know turned into a bunch of shit lives and because of Trump, so guess what why do you have a vaccine mandate if the vaccines no longer prevent transmission so you're going to get Andy slab, the covert director said violence, your gun one's going to get covert? You can't get away from it. It's like the flu. You can't get rid of the flu. You can't get rid of of it and the vaccine no longer prevents transmission. That's according to the CDC! Now you tell me what the rationale for mandates are: it's not about health, because vaccines protect the person who got the vaccine. It no

longer protects the person who didn't so you need to vaccine. You should get the vaccine because it will protect you from, serious illness and hospitalization but it will no longer prevent you from transmitting it. So a mandate to get a vaccine to protect other people is, de science and they're doing it nine thousand New York workers leave as axing mandate takes effect, so those are cops those are medics. Those are e m t. Those are a fireman nurses are in short supply. Employers worry vaccine mandate could make it worse. Chicago school bus driver, quit in droves over the ten percent of their bus drivers quit those are blue collar workers of color workers Allie against New York, Presbyterians, told the vaccine mandate for staff and by way. Only twenty percent. Eighty percent of the young black new yorkers- are vaccinated This issue- this is a war on young black young people of color. Everybody thinks it

dumping on Trumpery, but it's also dumping on the most vulnerable workers in our society. Here's the new Governor orders, National guard to build New York hospital shortages caused by staffers, not vaccinate against covert your firing, healthcare workers, the middle of a pandemic. Think this is about health in Europe placing them with National Guard who, also are not mandated to be vaccinated until June twenty twenty two Did you know that that have the National guard our backs, some aided and they don't have to be mandated until June. Twenty twenty two. So this isn't about health. black lives matter of greater New York blast the vaccine mandates as racist and disrespectful is he a trumpet. Richard Wolf says: it's not pro verse anti vaccine. The issue was class struggle, have employers

take mandates become intolerable for employees. Record job quitting, strikes, refusals MAX vaccine mandate say? Yes, t mandate. Movement is not all right wing or anti backs. Its labour militancy component deserves interest and support its an important opportunity to fight the right and build the laughed. So let me What and by the way. Let me just just drive this point home you're, going to mandate. Somebody who already had covered get a vaccine, even though they have greater immunity than the vaccine provides. This was asked to doktor vouchers, by Doktor sided NGO that came out of Israel about natural immunity and base. that way. The headline was that natural immunity provides a lot of protection even better. Than the vaccines alone had it wouldn't work. People make of that. So so, as we talk about vaccine mandates there calls all the time people say. I've already had covered I'm protected, and now

study, says maybe even more protected than the vaccine alone, should they also get the vaccine. How do you make the case to them. You know that's a really good points on J. I dont have a really firm answer, feel that ok, all right So now you know this mandate is complete bull shit and has nothing to do with healthy. Does it even have an answer for a question he knew was coming because there isn't an answer for it, but he is captured. You know what a regulatory capture and that's what this guy is he's the poster boy of it. Now. Let me bring in doktor. Richard was always happy to talk, for me. The host of Youtube show the economic update democracy at work, author of many books. Looting is most recent. The system is the sickness. What Capitalism fails to save us from pandemics or itself, please to have with this professor Richard Wolf, thanks for coming on Thank you Jimmy glad to be here so now. Would you respond to the to the what you

You saw here and in the push back, you got from just saying that explain to people. But this is a class. This is about class struggle I'd be glad to, I think, the way this time is to recognise and to applaud, at least if you come from the political directions that you and I share a journey- that there is a kind of rising of working people that we haven't seen in a long time. The governor these statistics about people who quit we are having record numbers of american workers. Many of them returning to jobs after the pandemic taking a long, hard look at that job and linked to that conclusion. If I can call from our country and western song from a few years ago, you can take. job and shove it and that's what They are figuring out now. It's not that moment. It's a risk. They take. Jobs are scarce

but you know when people have had it when he has built up for too long and its two strong. They may not choose the best moment, but they said only about here, I'm not gonna be treated like this anymore. We ought number one number two we'll see you strike wave the likes of we haven't seen for a long time. You know Kellogg let this go John Dear, there's a whole bunch of them and many that we don't even know about that, are smaller and don't get coverage but I want to make a point about that. It is getting more coverage. The labour struggles used to get its almost as though people in the media all over the place, smell or sense that something is going on for me when I watch the working legal that I now, saying I don't wanna be mandated ion they're dead. It's mostly now about the details,

of the science. Them are familiar with the love that I thought about it you don't believe in vaccines. They ve been there, sedating themselves and their children for a long time and it's a normal procedure of life, but they you don't want to be told again what they must do by farmers political companies and governments bureaucrats, for whom they have lost one little respect they had, and so on pushing back and it I don't get a vaccine. I think that's a shame and laxity I'm glad I'm vaccinated, I understand your position about it as well, but see this as an issue so much of science or of what they CDC says a movement that the left should be

You say you are right to be angry at mandates that didn't have to be done. There's a hundred ways you can organise to talk about and to work out procedures. Have you a different scientific up? point of view presented in a rational way and then make a democratic decision that allows people the birth of a private decisions they want to make the rest. their campaign. Seen them before, and the The main objective, in my mind, is to read establish the ability of those who like to give other people mandate with. position to do so, and I dont think the left belongs there at last point I know the people on the right there Wings, they won't get on these two. They would like to move that and the mandate movement in there direction, yet

they want to do that. We should view we should be in there. They know you have to go in that direction. You don't have to be an anti virus. You don't have to do. This is necessary. You can take that imports that field and join with other people to change the system. the press? Is you and not to get lost in some the tale of science and medicine. That really isn't the issue for us this time so well, very well said, so you don't even need the fact that a mandate as anti you don't even need. That argument is what you're, saying and you're saying that its of Blunder of the left to see This argument this cause for two people to the right and then people will sucked people because early we once talking about it. I cannot Richard I couldn't yours was the first critique. I have found

of any of the establishment, covert narrative policy from the left be perspective, I haven't seen I've been the only one out there that I know of on the left, giving an actual critique orbit MAX Blumenthal from the left, an old man, and also we had on Michael Tracy and from the left and that no one else seems to say it's the same people who were tell you that about a brush gate say people who were telling you the truth about Syria, this Venezuela, those are the same handful of people who will tell you the truth now giving you a critique anyway, at least there's a critique from the left on the estate. spent policy surrounding Covin and mandates, and I think your credentials are impeccable and you make the gray argument that we cannot see this to the right wing, and you do not have to push people away. I make the side if your argument that it's ridiculous you're making the lefty critique that it does class. It divides

workers and we should not let this happen. Not even stronger, takes workers who are becoming mill critics of the job situation critics of the of the way they are treated on the job and by the government that they that the can corporations control anyway, these people are beginning to move, including in striking we be later, we as the applauding what they are doing sure people mistakes all the time, but we I use your language Jimmy with leaving it to the right. If we allow the liberals and the others to collapse, the people hiding against the mandate as if they were all people who were euro against vaccines for anybody out of some abstract notion. science I didn't supported does not necessary, weaken weakened

be pro backs on you, ve done that well without being proud mandate. By the way you know the whole history of the labour movement is not to allow the employer to dictate to you what you are going to do. You're on the person who believed that there, the majority of people, have an interest in not letting that happen do. I always agree with the target, nor will it doesn't matter. This is where people feel strongly right now, just like those want quitting field strongly about why they Quinn and those who are striking feel strongly that militancy and that criticism of how they are treated there is aid. Does a flower. to be nurtured on the left not to be dropped into a bucket

If it's undistinguishable from all of the rest of the right wing, and by the way when you with anyone, says that you doing the job of the right wing you're, helping cement an alliance between them and this labour militancy, and then that is politically stupid, So what do you say to people? I've seen Keith Oberman tweet out when them policemen fire an end. Paramedics were marked, hang on the Brooklyn Bridge he tweeted. Fired them all same thing with two teachers. They were like hey we teachers who are anti. They don't want to get the vaccine fire them a we ve got nurses. I don't want to get the facts fire them. What do you say to that is that that to me is just so chilling for me as kind of a tragic slippage of these people and I'm trying to be polite, tragic slippage of these people, into reinforcing the very authoritarian hierarchy that we. The critics of Yellow

This is a system that really didn't do a good job. I mean the most important historical fact here: is this one, the alone states has four and a half per cent of the world's population and twenty percent of the world's covered deaths, the ascent worse than that ran programme, is up. Failure. L failure is not the one you put in a position to be ordering everybody else around, and it is this we could The same is with allowing anyone to portray us, as the against a vaccine in all. I have two kids. They were vaccinated when they were born. The doctors told me this important smallpox. Remember them off whooping cough we do that. We ve been doing I don't wanna be put in that, but that is misrepresenting us, but does the work of the right wing, and I think we should be very very

cautious about that, to say the least. Why really. really appreciate you saying all that that says that the hundred percent right you know the mandate. A vaccine it will mandate. You get health care if you get sick from the virus or the vaccine it will mandate that you have healthcare, and we now know due to studies that of when they, the study, six hundred thousand people in the United States had but died from covert and they determine that. A third of those people two hundred thousand of them would still be alive if the establishment- the old, Gorky, the government who are would have given them, met a careful We now know that universal health care would have saved. Two hundred thousand in people's lives and they now, ever talk about that. When found she talks about how to save lives, he never brings up universal health care ever so you

I want to give those people the authoritarian power to dictate to workers, and they ve already failed us, those that's exactly right. Oh my god and you I did so perfectly. Let us remember one additional point: Jimmy We ve been closing hospitals in this country for decades we then been closing them because of some stupid notion that this is called unquote efficient. When you have to be a fool to have faith that money at the expense of the hundreds of thousands of lives matches. Call it, but from God knows what other diseases that work handled properly good, we didn't have the facilities in place, you're right, the mandate that might be arguably so thing for the good of the people. the government, having met messed up on this, a little cold it on a scale that, beyond words on a farm,

with suitable industry that all we want to work on the vaccines when it was made a whiskers, profitable venture by government contracts given in advance wow. Then they can mandate this one thing and not deal with all the rest of the problems. I mean really it and it put his? U to wander the folks at that fall into that trap, and my hope is that people will see through it and stand, that is it the argument about the vaccine- is a different matter from the argument about allowing corporate elite and the government of bureaucrats to mandated to all of us what we must and must not do, especially if the science, the questions are still open about whether it makes any sense on top of it especially, and we ve detailed that at this show and them

Recent year long study revealed that vaccinated people are just as likely to spread device As the on vaccinated, the difference was negligible. Thirteen percent difference, which is nothing so the conclusion of the study, was everybody's gonna, get friggin covered and not that's Andy slathered, said that that's by the way accepted by all scientists. Now they just don't broadcast that on CNN and MSNBC at a nightly basis, that, everybody's going to get cove it, but Andy Slavic did Joe Biden Director for governor response, tweeted out everybody's, going to get it because the delta variant is and the vaccines don't protect against the dealt very even the boosters. They just me it's, so that you don't get serious illness or to go to the hospital, which is what back those vaccines do so now they ve, even the CDC director admits it no longer prevents proof transmission, so you ve got it right from the lefty perspective and you ve,

you got it right from a scientific perspective. There no reason to be for this. Unless you're and authoritarian who likes to cede power to the oligarchy, that's only reason too, by the way, the oligarchy that is already failed, our covert response you know, what's going on with infrastructure bill in the reconciliation will, so it started off at six trillion dollars and it went down between one point. Nine two point: two and went down to one point: seven. Five, so remember when there is a crisis. Last march, And they had to jump into save everybody. What they did was they transferred five trillion dollars upward to the riches, one thousand people in the country. That's called the cares, act and Bernie Sanders brag about positive, allow with rested a squad and every every prove progressive voted for it. Elsie lied and said she did it, but we proved she did. So that's what you get

and, and so now they can't even they can't even get anything done what's out of the bill. So far we ve said goodbye. hey family leave tuition free community college, meaningful climate provisions expanded occur, eligibility visit, vision, hearing, dental prescription, drug price patrols, universe so non means tested, shackled care, tax, credit, plus a billion or tax. So list of priorities, important senator Bernie Sanders. The Senator and Joe Mansion has killed all Bernie said: these priorities and the does long there, it is prescription drug prices, comprehensive. We just talk about a climate provision, federal vision, twelve weeks we'll urges the wreck conciliation bill is shifting from a Sanders product that encapsulates policy. Thinking of the progressive moving to a business, friendly and targeted package of programmes reminiscent of the nineteen nine. These Clinton ISM, sir Far Bernie and his allies seem ok with all of this or there at least quiet about it and get but at the same time the Senate panel just approval

twenty nine billion dollars for the poor, the gun, which is ten billion more than they even requested. Now it's remember. Just how much money that is. It has been estimated twenty billion dollars could end homelessness. They just go I'm twenty nine billion dollars, ten of it which they didn't even ask for, and there was no town halls. There was no the andreasen, performing up his sleeves and going to talk to the people. There were no up ads. There were no debates in Congress; they just did it that's how much money that they could do so they can end homelessness. They could give you health care. They could do whatever they can give you a fifteen Lalemant or where the richest country on the face of the earth and what call system that takes the richest country. The face of the earth has ever seen and renders half of its population poor or low income. You call that a failed system before Kobe, eighty percent of workers who live in paycheck to paycheck fifty percent of wage, there's earning thirty thousand dollars or less those before covert. So

That's the kind of money they have to throw around, it's so worried that the Democratic Party always seems to fail in a way that helps Wall Street and the military industrial complex. I'm sure it's nothing and the Democrats swept for there were no more promises to break let me bring in a doctor, Professor Richard Wolf, what what do you have to say about the shenanigans that have been going on and what the final result is gonna be in this spending bills. While I share with all of them? although I know until I work with feel, which is a sense of Depression sadness, regret tragedy that the thing We know we need, as a society are basically being put aside to give more of they have always given us in the past, as exemplified by that defence, I'll get you just spoke about.

I'm only trying to put it a little bit it in historical context, the ice It has had pandemics in and problems with, viruses before that horrible nineteen, eighteen, the so called spanish flu killed almost as many people as a covert. Now is done, so we know about the risk. That kind of thing happening Likewise, we have had many economic crashes We had one another. The nineteen thirty is a duty. We had another one in two thousand and eight were going through yet another one. Now, what we have never had as its society. is a public health catastrophe. At the same time I am that we have a more amazing economic. a crash, this distance, a combination that has shaken this country to it. Core has changed, that has broken cracks open of division that you report on all the time

and then everybody fees and feels Why was surrounded with movies about catastrophe? turn armies and floods and aliens and everything under the sun, because it's a very scary time there. needs, a response. That is, adequate and comparable to the level of crisis. We now phase, as society this is not a time to be Lee down the proposal. In my judgment, the Qatar we have called it which is going to be with us. Let's remember a long time. We don't even know what long term medical effects of all of this are going to be how many people are going to be affected, what it's going to cost to kill them properly. especially when we don't have a national health service and we already pay more for medical care than any other advanced country in the world. But we have this history

Wrigley unprecedented crisis, there needs a comparable response. What seeing the refusal to to do that cutting down. He wasn't enough in the first place, but cutting it down, and it strikes me as craziness, and I don't want to shy away from the defence We have had three major wars in the last three five years. Forty years, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq and in the eyes of the world every one of those wars, the american military were defeated. I know people don't like to deal with it. I know they don't want to face it. I know denial is the name of the game, but I got Jellia after awhile denial,

doesn't work so well. We lost position the win. We haven't even add a war with a I agree that has the capability to confirm does there to be a recognition that there is a historical pattern. The ear, when you try to control the rest of the world militarily, usually. their awhile doesn't work because they, this out and they mobilise, and they do all the things we would do in the United States if we were on the receiving end of any other country, treating us this way so working, but it you keep throwing money that you can or would spend to develop your country inside your developing a recipe for them collapse of an buyer goes does that

the british Empire, the Roman empire, the Greek Empire, that's how they came to their end they forget that the first one of business is to take of your own people. And if you don't do that, while running around the world, imagining you can control everybody else, Everything is going to be taken away from you, and I Think Americans are already feeling it sends vineyard milling it in the air that something, basically wrong and then they go and they find scapegoats, which is again another piece of evidence of a declining empire come on remember where a country of three hundred and thirty million people, and we went nuts for awhile as a country trying to be back though who raised imaginable emigrants from Central America. Maybe

ten million undocumented. a country of three hundred and thirty million. They were responsible for anything couldn't have been getting off on throwing them out. That's again, I'd, say, you're a real problem and imagining, if you do this other thing or beating up on China for ever: stop it you're, wasting our substance Looking at the core of the problem that we have, which is system the goal Gimme door? That is the working. That's the problem It isn't working flailing its arms around try. This said that, but then the behaviour of society that is in trouble, denies it get it won't admit it. And then goes off in in the scapegoats just come back to what you see is

many economists Jimmy one last thing I want to- is what I do for a living, the United It has been for a century without a serious economic com. Editor World war, while the end of the Germans and the British, as contested made the United States, the dominant country worldwide, two took out there, companies who might have if they had had more time, become a competitive sulphur, century, we haven't had one we have one now and you gotta face that you can't pretend it isn't there and you can Sabre rattle and hope that that's gonna make your problem go away. We haven't competitor, that's no, and we have to come to terms with their you're older, those twelve said programmes in this country. They all thought the same way, where'd you go to them. You have to begin by saying, ah have the problem.

That brings me here because theory of all those programmes is that you can although problem, if you can't, admit that you got. we have that as a nation, so let me just ask you: won't go So I understand when the crisis happens, that the capitalists transfer money upward, that's what they did after those, Austria grass in two thousand eight, that's what they're doing that's what did it covered, what stops them? also putting money in the pockets of workers, like, I, don't understand, starving of the work like. So when we like him in for instance, when they, the Cares act like I said, transferred five trillion dollars, upward, they didn't get anything for workers in their except some Piggly unemployed insurance, so why not also put some gas in the tank for the workers like empty are taught us that if you put money in the pockets,

workers they spend it and so also when they flattened when they closed people's businesses in other parts of the world most other parts of the western world. They paid everyone salary at that didn't do that here, in fact, by one even give them. The two thousand dollar checking promise. What is in it for the establishment not to give people a stimulus. There are several things first, the thing or by other countries Europeans. Eighty two things we didn't do here. They said every employer, you cannot fire anyone doing this public health very important. no worker lost his job. The job is yours: you You will get it when this crisis pass and We will pay most of your salary, for the employer I held the employer, but you did, create in the population. The anxiety will I

a job when this is over. kind of job. Well, I have in the EU oppian countries they said you, you'll, never get fired you. Lose your job. You don't have that anxiety to do that in this country is cruelty, utterly unnecessary, inappropriate, harsh, that's gonna, be my answer to your arrest of your question. Of course, We could give money at the bottom. You know when women give money to the top. There's a theory that says this is an appropriate response and it's called trickled down economics. give you give money to the folks at the top it'll trickle down, and it has grain of truth, give money to corporations and and see that they have to pay taxes our trump or they get a subsidy or they get a guaranteed com. Try they may be willing to hire some more workers. They may it may go down. Rarely does

trickle very much, but it may But here is the important argument. Goes to the other way. Much better. If you give money at the problem, here is what we know: people who are at the bottom, the lower half of the population- they will have We think they will spend. Money very much as quick as they get it. So you know it's gonna trickle where up, because people get money, they go to the store and they buy food clothing, shelter and who makes at the corporations who will make damn good profit or all of that spending from below. So can you have a trickle of the economic policy? Of course you can and Roosevelt, as you rightly say, did a lot of that, but he the important thing Roosevelt didn't, do it because he was far seeing for he was a good guy or he was no. No, no, no no made of that's right. He did it

because the see I know the greatest labour organizing drive in the history of the United States, we ve never had anything like it before we ve never had anything like it said they Allied with two socialist parties in a communist party and put aside whether you like it, you don't like they worked together and went to Mr Roosevelt and they made some demands and suddenly curricle up economic they came doable, but you know afterwards war too late, the left in this country, as you know, as well as I do, and here the irony of ironies, the smashed left therefore unable to me then do some trickle up and that's what I'm saying the capitalism back then- and it's me saving it. Now there are harsh they're not doing it. Just as you asked me, irony, is its driving people nuts, and they

angry and their bitter, and some of them find did for immigrants or hatred for non white people? If we all know what some fine and other quitting and striking, and deciding that we're not in this game with mandates are flouted society. he's gonna get itself out of this horror it, have to be reorganized as a new and different kind of system. You know when they passed the Cares act and aid shut down everyone's business and they didn't give pay their salary like the west of the West rest of the western world. Did I said to myself if the people, oh rise up right now they never will, and so now they are with this strike with these strikes that are helping. Workers are kind of you know it's it's. It's almost like a soft general strike in a sense and do you think that will have been We need a real reorganization. You not kidding when you say that, like we need one hour

Wood burning would start every speech and twenty fifteen and sixteen by saying it sounds like you. Ready for a revolution, we were ready for a revolution. We re to get money out of politics and every They get health care and that will change everything. Those two things do they, will ever have their revolution. I think we're going to slide into being more and more like Brazil anvil in were and were doomed. well, I'm here you know, I think, there's a chance. I see. I see. I should like, in this framework, the soil of one's up and the little seedlings issued come up. I see that the wedding. I see it in the strikes, I even see it. In this mandate, even though I wouldn't chosen that as a fight, I understand that fight. I see that fight in this light, so I am very very hopeful of that. There are signs, That is the working class which has been

and of his sleep for a long time, at least in terms of facing. that the system has to be changed are beginning particularly where the younger ones more and more open to this way of thinking, and I we're going to see Willoughby strong enough to make the changes. I dont know, but much of what I do and if I'm reading you write much of what you do, designed to help them to make so many things clearer, so that chances are better than the movement goes in the direction that will make growl and be stronger and have a clear sense that we have to change the system in all its long past fixing passing that law or like thing that person we're not there anymore to find on. There has to be a systemic change, now kind of no it. The question do we have the individuals and clarity to put

A programme like dad together and then go and appeal to the american people. Am I this we're gonna, be surprised at how much so What an interest there will be a course, the key Do any worker uprising is that you drop the usual political divisions, and you rally around common interests? Correct, yes, so at least as long as you don't have really well developed police. They called the delusions parties which we don't have so yeah. We have by the way is a model that we should. I don't You ve covered this Jimmy in France, where they A clown for a leader I mean I was just a pathetic, MR my garage early beyond words, but he

Eve, provoked a movement that included a left wing or right wing right, the Socialists, the conservatives who had one thing in common that this government was out control and unacceptable. Started with an anger about a fuel tax, but it went on from there because Eliza, France, it's a different culture, but it went on from there to become a much more general credit, go motion to win all of the political bodies had pay a lot of attention, because if they didn't they lose their own members to it, It has its problems too, but I think it's a clean sign that we live in a time when new dramatically different, political forms. coming into existence. They handle the kind of crisis, that we're all living through so. You referred to the dealer genes right, the yellow. That's right.

it looked behind me. I don't know if you can see ass. I call on the wall. Here, yes went beyond the war, I can see it so I guess. We certainly need a yell of S movement in this country, and I hope you know it showed that people will go out and they will protest. The black lives matter. Protests of last summer of twenty twenty showed that People are willing to get off the couch and go protests things if they see think it will help and they think so. Would be nice to see people getting. But that of the sad thing that after all that protesting, they got nothing for it and in fact they got another Police agency funded to the tune of two billion dollars voted for by the squad, but the good it was, is that people are willing to do it and so could do that around economic issues and you have left these and right and libertarians and said and environmentalist. If you have the whole thing, go their joining hands against this system, because you know when they shut our business and they don't give pay your salary date that hurts lefties right

he's libertarians. It hurts every body whose a worker so we need to find ways to join together and by God. That's what scares the shit out of breath exits. You're the shit out of them, the yellow vets, scared, the shit out of them and whenever you reach across the island, the United States to join workers together to fight the oligarchy. That's when they pots. That's what the house, I agree that an that's what scares them, but that, full tells us what our job is. That's right will I reached out to some people are right earlier this year, they ve, that's one there I got the smear pieces written about me in New Newsweek and every He came at me. I'd social media, the troll arms around so that the key to this right,

So when we go out there and we march for Medicare for all, we can't be a bunch of lefties out there. You know what it matters is when they see a bunch of writing that are with you and a bunch of liver, Terrance and a bunch of centrist when you have broad support for something they can ignore, they can dismiss you by saying all those a bunch of marxist what the hell they know about anything. But now, if you have everybody with you from across the political spectrum, they cannot ignore it and that's what we need to do in that's why they fight so hard against that an that's! Why union, organizing is totally you don't go to the union floor shopping, go hey! Who hears a burglar boy, you're out who's, a trump voter you're out, ok, whose them proud boy, you're out who's, a libertarian God not you're out all right, whose left now we're going to organise? That's, not how fuckin works. Ok, I will doctor professor ritual, if I really appreciate your time and your insight and your courage to stick your out and tell the truth and to help laughter, get their head, I'm straighten organise the way their supposed to so anything you'd like to before we let you go

No Jimmy! I just very appreciative that that we can do what we're doing that. You are doing what you are doing. It doesn't matter that we all agree on each on every point. It doesn't it matters that the big picture is what keep talking about and that people think about these bigger. questions, don't shy away and realise that it's a big problems. We now face it all. A country that neglect as we are told its infrastructure. What idiot does He gave a car. You have to change their oil yeah pipes in your house. You gotta get a look at my shouldn't. Rusty Abbe, everybody knows it. What does it mean in a society that says with neglected it for ten, twenty or thirty? It tells you that something terribly wrong in this, society and there's gonna be fixed. We rise to the occasion and figure out there.

Some change, is the solution. We have that consider and work for doktor rituals. As the author of one capitalism fails to save us from pandemics or itself. That book has it handsome blurb from yours truly on it, so check out that both thank you so much of again, professor richer wolf, She looks at you Jimmy glad to be here now why what happened? United watch the godfather again, the other night godfather, want better stick work preyed on your mother brought. I can do young opportunity and how can you re talking about a brother? You don't ever take strikes against a family again. I love that again. Do young! It's not all! I am now going over says. I'm talking about a girl. Copier is mixed,

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