Fauci Warns Covid Delta Variant Splitting US Into Two Countries, Judge Sentences Men To Vaccination. Dr. Fauci's statements line up with data showing states won by trump are less likely to vaccinate than states won by biden.
Democrats and republicans are so divided on vaccines that now even Fauci is entertaining the idea of a cold civil war or peaceful divorce in the United States.
In one instance a judge is sentencing men to be vaccinated sparking outrage among even leftists and the ACLU
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Today is June thirtieth, twenty twenty one and our first story doktor Fauci. She is warning that the new delta
variant splitting the United States into to America's, because red states are getting vaccinated.
blue states are he's not wrong about that
The interesting how this plays out in the culture war or the cold civil war and our story
and I say his slammed even by many on the left for a strange, none denial denial over whether or not
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It appears we have the unlikely list of individuals entertaining the pie,
stability of a peaceful divorce in this country or a civil war, not act of Algae
come out and say there was going to be a civil war. Buddy sat. He warned that the country may be divided into two America's over the delta variant, which is just the indian strain of covert.
you see when it comes to vaccination. Rights states that voted for Joe Biden have very high rates and states that didn't have very low rights, except for
five states that are being contested, which is strange in and of itself, but at any rate there really is to America'S- and it's been this way for a long time,
and, as I have stated over and over again, I have no reason to believe the connections are going to rebuild themselves and the current state of this country. I don't think it's going to be improving
more and more, with the news coming out around covert around the plans from blue states, verses, red states, it scene,
That's things will only get
worse than I know, perhaps it's a bit pessimistic in the law,
run, though I'm fairly optimistic that things will improve. For the most part, the night is always darkest before the dawn.
You see there are some stories that make me feel past
mystic in terms of the cohesion of the United States. Now, in terms of where I live, and my plans for the future
him cast our common fairly optimistic that we will retain our freedom and many other people who don't want for
An individual rights will lose it, but if they want it, so be it so long as we defend our rights. It's not just that doctor vouches, saying these things
we recently where the story. The other day I covered where tromp supporter speaking CNN said that there was
to be a civil war. I know it's just one guy at a Trump rally, but many people have expressed the same thing.
Something is going to break. Violence is inevitable and I certainly hope not, but here's here's a story is that this another big story
I didn't know if I should have been leading with this one, because one judge, but a judge is now sentencing men to covet vaccination in their plea agreements, or I should say, and in their sentencing terms
that is in one story, a man who was convicted of one count of mishandling firearms was told you're gonna get probation and, as part of that, you must be very
need within thirty days the ac L. You is coming out about the scent coming out against the saying I don't know
the government should be mandating medical procedures in. I that's not gonna, build trust and I'm sure many people
actually challenge this. But the issue is for a lot of these guys, they're saying sure. Ok, whatever now look,
I'm not saying without
I'm saying is you're very, very clear, distinct views as to what people showed or shouldn't be doing, and I think voucher is correct when he says it's dividing this country
into to America's now I always say that disclaimers you gotta talk to a doctor, here's might might might my personal police
opinion on all of this. Is you shouldn't be getting advice from people on the internet or tv doctors like voucher? You should go to a doctor, you should ask them and give them your medical history.
This includes all of these celebrities, telling you what to do when they say to get vaccinated. I just make sure you go to a doctor and talk to them before you do anything because some people- it's it's rare, but some people actually are not candidates for vaccination, which is why vouches correct what happens when someone goes, the doktor and doktor says you're pregnant. You should not get this vaccine your doktor racism, indifferent,
should go talk to them. What happens when they're not allowed to go to venues? What happens when New York implements more and more of Excelsior pass? What happens when we
Washington and Oregon, implement vaccine passports. When haven't we,
of mainstream leftist press demanding this and conservative states and regulates art are making this illegal. We are inching towards an untenable sitting
Asian, where blue states say you must answer
states say you cannot make? You cannot obligate people to be vaccinated, it's very obvious. What's up
there will be a period where you'll be in California. I can't go to Florida, Florida, California, vice versa, and guess what California is already passed, that law snow state travel too many states. Sixteen now already ology or I will not what let's drop it soon found she's actually say
because I didn't think he'd be the guiding amount be like the country's splitting apart and I want to.
You really freaks me up. A judge in Columbus Ohio
sentencing people to vaccination. Ok, what the doctor says they can't do it. I freaked me up before we get sorted out over the TIM cast
come and become a member. By clicking the members only button to get access access to our exclusive members only segments, let him get our podcast, we talked
last night with Canvas Owens about the Mandela fact and a TED talk from Bill gates where he talked about stopping out of control population,
which is very, very fascinating. A lot of these things, evil things maybe talk about here, which risky business
sooner or later, Youtube is going to be banning channels like mine, they ve already demonetized, and they have already given a strike in a warning to Brett once for talking about his opinions as a scientist uncovered now my opinion
legitimately, is: do you know anything someone says on the internet, be at me or Rogan or forty? Take it with great assault. Go talk, grammatical, professional. Who knows your history. I know I say a lot because I genuinely want to drive home
There's so much in the culture war and the key
civil war or whatever of people trying to advocate for why you showed or shouldn't do something, and I just want to be- the person was like you need to be
strong, individual who doesn't think I'm telling you to do something whose just taking information and then making personal choices for yourself not being said you'd have so my Bambi joined him cast out come help us grow, which is high, like four people know.
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of news and the new such would be lodged with the next week or so so that being said, the three the story from a daily mail thought warns country may be divided into two America's by indian Delta
ain't that continues to spread in under vaccinated areas. The CDC director has said those who have had the shots are safe from the mutiny strain and don't need wear masks now that one's really fascinating as well.
because a sand is wrong,
stating their mask guidelines and the allay times
a column sang even if your vaccinated, basically just where the mask and shut up, don't wine about it. It's can be really strange,
You ve got the CDC saying that if your vaccinated, I gotta, worry about delta, but then you are in a state like
California, which has high vaccination rights and their tell him. You were going to implement these guys
mine's anyway, will see how things play up. They say the nations top infectious disease expert warned.
At the, U S may soon be divided into two America's, as the disparity grows between vaccinated and on vaccinated regions and the Indian dealt a variant continues to spread,
in an appearance on CNN Don lemon on Tuesday night Doktor Fouche, you said he is very concerned about seeing the country split into one half.
The majority of residents, are vaccinated against covert nineteen and the other half
Were there not immunized, leading to a rise in cases? This is fascinating.
because I mentioned something like this. When Joe Biden came out earlier this year, saying we may need more. Lockdown, Texas and Floored had already rejected, mask mandates, unlocked downs were totally reopened and apparently
we're fine, but Joe Biden came out. I weren't any more lockdown that I asked who is speaking too as the President of the United States, who is he speaking to these red?
It's our defying everything he's saying he was only speaking the blue states, its were even if he was trying to actually communicated bridge that divide the widow
the view of the red and blue states are so diametrically opposed that Joe, but an comes out
I think we need more lockdown and the red states or like shut up. Where do you think that leads us quote?
when you have such a low level of vaccination superimposed upon a variant that is a high degree of efficiency of spread. What
We're going to see among under vaccinated regions, be that state cities counties?
you're going to see these individual types of blips? It's almost like it's going to
to America's several. U S. Counties in the South and West have been seeing an increase in cases according to a report, from the CDC
health officials say low vaccination rates. The problem that the virus is transmitting rapid
and under vaccinate regions of the Eu S. The states are also
warning a rise in cases linked to the delta variant, which counts for twenty six point. One percent of all covered infections up from twenty point, six percent last week so
states have reported that more than half of all new cases are associated with the string, but studies have shown that two doses of the Pfizer, violent vaccine and ashes Attica vexing are eighty eight percent effective against the delta variant and lab experience. Experiments showed the Madonna vaccine generates. Neutralizing anti bodies against a string is entirely avoidable. Entirely preventable voucher, the director of National Institutions
do we know is position so the CNN, if your vaccinated, you diminish dramatically your risk of getting infected and even more dramatic
your risk of getting seriously ill if you're not vaccinated. You are at considerable
It comes as CDC director Doktor Rochelle Polanski, set on Wednesday. It fully vaccinated Americans are safe from various and do not need to wear masks,
if you are vaccinated, you are safe from the variants that are circulating here. In the U S she told NBC today and said it is exactly right that vaccinate people do not need to wear masks. Well, fellow Americans, it's no surprise were in a recession.
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Two six, five five three to perhaps you should inform California of that, because they are reinstating these mask guidelines and that's my fear. These politicians
Came up and they were saying that even if you could vaccinate should wear masks and nor a lot of complete
even from moderate, individual sang, you need to encourage people to get the vaccine. Not discourage them. Tell them that there is a light.
into the tunnel that we may be moving forward now with what doktor vouches sang, it sounds like there isn't. A light at the end of the tunnel, for the most part is gonna, be too
America's well know. Maybe you saying there is, I guess, I'm not a fan of algae he's been wrong. A lot and its defence is all, but the science says you're mad about the science dude fouche IE is a tv doctor. I'm not I'm, not! Look. Here's a tv doctor
he heads the veto, the infectious disease, you know where we will benefit, as is his position. You know he's the highest paid govern. It is the highest paid government, employees and the problem.
Without she is that, while he goes on tv and says all of these things, there are people who need it.
show their medical history to their doctors. If, if someone goes on Youtube, say Brett ones,
and says you know here, says: recommendation they take down as they don't have a morning. They do it again. They give must strike now they ve demonetized his generals. Ok, I don't, I don't think Brett should be advocating that people take a certain action. Now Brett wants to talk about the efficacy of certain drugs. That's different youtube!
ban either of these things. We need to encourage people to be personally responsible for themselves. Kenneth Collins brought this up. Yesterday we were talking on the progress. It made a really good point. So what if Joe Rogan has an opinion on vaccines? He's Joe Rogan, you shouldn't be getting your advice from a comedian
Why is the responsibility on Joe Rogan and not you? It's a really good point. I dont think people should be getting advice from personalities and tv doctors. You should go into your doctor and that's the point that can is basically drove home. Take a look at us. It's to America's man
bout. She is not wrong about that. Maybe he can go one step further and say legit. This country is breaking in half now I love this part. I've shown this. This war is a graph numerous times and every time I have, I have pointed out the only states
that don't follow the trend, meaning you ve got Michigan Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada and Georgia have lower
acceleration rates and they voted for Biden, whereas
every high vaccination rated rated state is blue and almost every low vaccinate vaccinated state is read its fascinating, that the five states that are being contested by tromp and supporters are the ones that aren't getting the vaccine in the same numbers. I
you find that strange. It's totally non sequitur for the most part, but a lot of people are pointing out sums. You know some correlation between this
and the claims about Trump and bite in and things like that. I don't want thing about that. I'm just saying this: you ve got red states for the most part sent with with low vaccination. You know floored untaxed around fifty eight percent, and then you ve got these blue states that are like seventy
Vermont with eighty two percent interesting Lee. I wonder where it where where's New Hampshire at let me see if I can find a new Hampshire, New Hampshire, which is the free state. Seventy one percent, it's the free state project, everybody's, very, live
seventy one percent of adults are vaccinated, it voted for Joe Biden. This is the split in America. It's it's! It's obvious that it's happening, and it's not just about the vaccine. It's about world view. Naturally, the vaccine falls into that, which is why I'm I'm, showing you Biden and Trump states and vaccination writes that shows that the political is transcend.
everything. Now here's work it's crazy. First, let me should limit lemme see if we can now, where do we have
I always a red state. Wasn't it a higher there? We go oh hi, o Trump one. Fifty seven point: five percent of adults are vaccinated, check this out, not that when this one from the Columbus Dispatch Columbus Judge is adding a new term to defendants, probation get your covered shot. This one freaks me out, they say a Franklin County judge recently begun, including vaccination against Cove it as a condition of defended
terms of probation common. Please judge Richard FRY said last week. He added the vaccine as a condition on three cases in the week of the raw of the roughly twenty sentence, as he does his imposed he's
discuss the matter in open court with the defendants and they attributed their unventilated status. To procrastination non raised any philosophical, medical or religious objection quote. It occurred to me that at least some of these folks need to be encouraged. Not
pressed in it. For I said, I think it is a reasonable condition when we're telling people to get employed and be out in the community, he declined to speculate. What would happen if a defendant raised a medical, religious or philosophical exemption to vaccination, but said this is a different situation entirely than people who have simply put the matter off an example. A man named Cameron's
you're under guilty plea for one charge of improperly handling firearms in a motor vehicle for which he was sentenced to two years of probation. That's it that's the only charge. We have a second amendment in this.
if an individualist handling firearms and they have a constitutional right to do so. I dont think I think we should have during notification or this law should be repealed. Now, in this instance, ok, fine, the law exists, obey the law, failure lawsuits. We have a process for this. It's it's a brilliant process by which our founding fathers set it up. There could be a law on the books you may get charged for it, because the people, our vote in the make the law, but you can
sue. It's not easy. We have to fight for our rights, but this guy could theoretically sue and say I shouldn't be convicted of a crime handling firearms with second amendment and play well, that's not at that sets a totally different subject. What s happening is this?
stringer- must submit to a random drug screening, avoid further legal trouble. Return a firearm in question to its rightful owner and obtain a covert nineteen vaccine within thirty days and provide proof to the Probation Department Court documents show look. I think people should get vaccinated. I really do if your doctor says you should that's. I stress all the time I have a friend I've tweeted his vote. It is
is: is: is post on Facebook out he went to the doctor got vaccinated. He got injured now. I guess what he was saying was you know he should have talked to another doctor, because they're there may have been some complicating factors. I'm worried about people
owing to a bar I'm worried about
bill seeing your celebrity on Instagram or Doktor FAO, Chee saying just go: do it and then not talking to a doctor about what makes sense?
I get a lot of people on the other side, saying your doctors don't know, and, unlike due dude talk to a doktor, asked them very specific medical questions, you wanna make sure you're getting your advice from the best possible person
and it ain't me, I'm a dude on the internet. Jerome
the comedian and found she doesn't know you. So you go to your doctor. We gotta history. You know you got history with your medical files, figure it out for a judge to tell people they must do it. It's insane! Imagine if you want.
Imagine if you go to court and that and the judges light, so why haven't you had your tonsils removed
You ve no idea your honour as a condition.
Your probation. I think you should get em remove like way. Why that's a medical procedure and you judge- should not be mandating it. I get it. Vaccination is the
most minor of minor medical procedures, will have the most minor mine? I guess minor, that take an aspirin or something. But I understand you, people go in hundred seventy seven million vaccinations. There are many people reporting to the backside, adverse event reporting system. You can take all that information. It consideration ultimately still need to get advice from us
doctor, the point being why, as a judge, mandating a medical procedure that is not up to him to decide now, perhaps one of these into
you can go to a doctor, a doctor will say you shouldn't and then maybe they can see with the judge says after that, but still I don't think this is appropriate. Going back to what found she was saying. Isn't this the kind of thing that's going to rip this country into like how was a judge gonna mandate that its unclear? How widespread this traditional practices fry said he didn't know of any other judges, were doing anything similar spokesman for the Supreme Court, which overseas lower costs
said he didn't know of any judges doing anything similar. However, he sent a link to a media report about a judge offering to shorten probation stretches for those who obtain a vaccine inside.
Devising people who have committed crimes to take lower sentences in exchange for medical procedure
I know I know maybe saying that weighs a bit more extreme you're saying they went and got their vaccine either way. I don't like the idea. It should not be up to a judge. It should be up to a doctor, Gary Daniels and here's what the issue you have raised. A lobbyist with the ACL. You expressed concern about the practice Thursday, comparing it to Ohio judges who
ordered defendants convicted of crimes not to procreate seriously. What's it doesn't it,
real relationship to community control, Daniel Set of fries practice at minimum. It appears to be problematic. Fries protest comes in a period of stagnation and of extreme campaign against a disease that is killed more than six hundred thousand Americans despite a sky scr
in death and morbidity toll five, one million dollar lottery drawings for people get vaccinated more than six
months of availability, fewer than forty eight percent of Ohioans have started the vaccination process against covered nineteen. I just wanted them to be safe in the community fry said. Has it occurred to any of these people
that they have gone to their doctors and said I am between on twenty five.
And I have no history of illness and I'm physically said the doktor says: you're fine has it occurred,
them. Has anyone asked doctors what medical advice there giving
could it be that many people aren't etc the procrastinating it's that they did get medical advice have, as I consider that that's what I've had people in this studio in my house, conservatives who are critical of things like this, who have gotten the vaccine and our fine and have family members
who didn't all because they went to a doctor and asked about it, and I may be- I say too much of her, but this is this: is it is gonna crazy, ACL inventions,
or letters from December eighteenth, Ohio, Supreme Court rules. Man can't be ordered to abstain from procreation level. What's yours is cruel and unusual punishment. My opinion, the doktor, should not be allowed to mandate. Annie,
kind of invasive medical procedures are talking about putting a needle in your arm and injecting you of something. These are deeply personal decisions that people need to make based on their medical history and sound advice from medical professionals. Not judges and allay
You don't seem to matter outlay. Time says, put your mask back on and don't wine about it? Ok, ok! I find that we are now we have this
and why she has no plan to revisit mask requirements on adult a variant spread of mayor, says, plus the dance of work meet Packing District Hotel plans, a series of new restaurants and more info. Well, this is
either dot com. So natural I've had my restaurants, but it seems like New York is not going to go that route. So maybe it's not so bad. We're not gonna, see a hard. You know acts slicing through a piece of wooden splendid
plain, perhaps what will actually happen as it'll? Be more it'll happen more slowly. I love this story takes up vice new says
the GEO P wants to save you from vaccine passports that mostly don't exist April. Eighth, twenty twenty one! Ok, let's reed,
could get interesting of businesses start mandating proof of covered vaccination on a massive scale. Vice reports
on Tuesday, Governor Gregg Abbot, sign that executive order banning the state and local governments, as well as organisations receiving state funding from acquiring documentation of an occupation government should not require any tax and to show proof of vaccination and reveal private health information just to go about their daily lives and its Edna statement announcing the move. We will continue to vaccinate more,
accents and protect public health, and we will do so without treading on Texans personal freedoms. The passport is some form of documentation either digital or physical, that
who's. Your vaccination status in broad use these passports could be used by sports arenas, Miss Benghazi. I think you guys note that, as last month, New York became the first state to roll out such a voluntary programme using an app called by inadequate,
IBM called Excelsior Pass. It's been used that NBA and I shall games in New York last month, Walmart on us, a plan to make the vaccine records of to make the vaccine records of people inoculated at their stores available, digitally, but so far the backlashes outpaced the project itself,
taxes were forced states whose governors of other signed laws or announced executive orders
during these, so called passports. Florida, Idaho Utah, have also signed the orders of some sort. I suppose there saying quote it is completely unacceptable for either the government or the private sector to impose upon you the requirement that you show proof of vaccine to just simply be able to participate in normal society to Santa sat at a press conference press conference last week. Keeping in mind
This story is from April eighth, ok, so we get it. Vice is saying they would have vaccine past
ports swell in the Pacific Northwest. I think it's an organ there actually now rolling these out and many stores are requiring them. You wanna come in, you gotta show it in New York, in other places its not mandatory, but they're doing vaccine sections of sporting of
and bars, meaning you walk into a bar. There is everybody parting,
yeah. But if you don't got your proof, you gotta go to the back of the bar. That's what's happening and now here's my favorite vice read your own articles, this story from June. Seventh, we all have
vaccine proof, why aren't any bars or restaurants requiring it just
months before this article vice was arguing.
Body is threatening you republic, in with a vaccine passport, and then two months later there like, why aren't people requiring vaccine passports? No one twit
The conversation was a bit more serious than with many of these personalities, literally saying they should be doing, and others want just asking the question: ok, fine, why aren't they requiring it? Because it's private medical information and they would lose money.
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What did vice think that they should be doing waiting until there actually implementing vaccine passports and then coming out and sang. You can't do this yeah. I guess so. It's weird! Isn't it so what? If? What you Republicans,
amounts at work in a ban flying spaceships, you know and figure eights for three days I'd be like. Well, then, when we build spaceships people won't do it. I guess if they said we are going to ban the practice.
Of launching small home built satellites into space, what are we gonna say? The GEO P wants to save you from low orbit satellites launching people's backyards. Even people are doing it. Could there be a reason why they banned it lets say people did somehow start launching satellites from their backyards. Could it be that those satellites would crash into other satellites? Look at what happened with drones. You see the legislation. Wasn't there when consumer great drones came out, everybody was flying all over the place and there a bunch of stories about drones near leading planes. Could you imagine if they regulated drones for known use them? What would the response by the GNP wants to save you from drones? That mostly don't exist? You see others you saw this works, perhaps making a law saying hey
bad thing. We don't want to happen. Fine right. Ok, I think it's deliciously, hypocritical, that judge Vice doesn't seem to understand what's happening or what they even want to be fair. The two different writers, two months apart, but you see exactly why the GEO Peter this
now you'll see exactly why there is a strong divide in this country there I say two different America's, because we can look right back at this this. This graph that I showed earlier on. It really is fast any because it's not built to be this. They just have a list of states and therefore
the percentages of vaccination and there is a natural major dividing line. I witnessed the to close the states to each other in the middle you have was continent. Sixty three percent and Oregon at sixty six point: eight, these clusters, weren't made by an pr. This is not a clever graphic to make it
like this, a hard divide, their literally just throwing the states out there and then giving up a number
of how many what percentage of people have been vaccinate with at least one dose, and naturally you see all of the blue-
the hive area and all of the red
in the other area, save the exception of Georgia. Nevada Arizona was content in Michigan States. Of course, dimension are being contested by Trump supporters.
So what does the future hold for us? You know the other day we saw that Trump supporters say: civil wars coming
That's why I saw this and I saw the story about the people being sentenced to vaccination and I was like peaceful divorce balkanization collapse of this great country. I hope it doesn't happen. We know we ve got China to worry about.
But here we are right. There seems to be every day something adding to the story that we are being split further and further apart. Fao Chica
out and says to America'S- and unlike that's fascinatingest, I've been saying that for years
initially the left was like tombs, crazy for thinking this could happen. In fact, I'd many conservative thing I was crazy for saying. Where we are facing a civil war, is a cold civil war could go hot now, more more conservatives are saying cold civil war, but even that, I think, is wrong. A cold war is like two forces pressuring each other now either
We had people die, so maybe nobody wants to say hot civil war because we have battlefields and people marching. What do you think it's gonna look like what would you do that
that in Afghanistan, the american soldiers like all line up its are marching towards the city. You know whatever to Kabul or something no, it's mostly Google,
Warfare now snipers in buildings. The goal is to win. We are in a modern version of a civil war. This is modern warfare, political manipulation, the EU we ve got economic warfare, we got information warfare and we even to have hot skirmishes. We do have some guerrilla combat. Nobody wants to really and any one's life right now, because that would be bad in the information war. If Antigua went out and clubbed someone or beat a journalist like that with any known they eat that generates tons of sympathy from regular people saying. Why are they doing this? These stories are bad for them, so propagandists important. That's why they. There
so adamant about censoring certain information. That's why they infiltrate destroy and we build these these prominent newsrooms, and it's why I mean just in general. Censorship is one of the biggest issues in the culture war
Conservative started to realise that if they didn't have the ability to speak, they would lose the information war and the left knows if they can control what words mean
They control. What is it the means to meaning they can make it so that your laws on the books mean something totally different? They go this way. If woman.
is scientifically defined as an adult human female. Then, when we pass laws, ANG women can't be discriminated against, or something like that. We know what the word woman means. The law mean someone who's biologically female right. Then they change the definition. They say transmit our women, the game, in which case now the law
Klute strands woman. That's the power of semantics language is the is underlying everything.
that's why they say you know anti vaccine, for instance, if you're a profound and I see a lot of people, senator provocateurs people
they scare to be smeared by the media. People are saying, like
post on the intellect him as an anti vat stance on Macao, shut up care idiots. I got unlike homage of how many shots. If I got in the past like five years, whereas advice I only three or four vaccines are awesome. It's where technology it river the earliest. But if you have concerns about your health and you think people to talk to a doctor,
shouldn't be sentenced to getting vaccinated. Ok, that's a political issue, you morons, so that it would be proud anti backs, I'm anti authoritarian and I'm pro sound medical advice from a doctor, not a doktor found
tv yeah? Well, you know one of these days are many a band of even talking about these things but, like I said this is an example of a country being divided, and I agree with that. You in that regard. I don't like the guy, but he's got this one: a livid, their necks segments coming up tonight at eight p m over at Youtube COM slashed him cast iron. Well, thanks for hang out and we'll see you all, then.
A couple nights ago, Tucker Karlsson said he was contacted by a whistle blower who informed him. The Anna say was spying on its communications and was planning on publishing these communications, to hurt him politically, but actually get em taken.
If the air since then the USA has issued a denial which has only ignited more controversy because their walk
their denial is just a lie now, maybe they're not
they spying on girls and I dont know, but the fund
think about all of this in the most important thing about all of this is well, I should say the most important
while it is very, very important to get to the bottom of whether or not
the National Security Agency or where what is, and what is that agency? What
the USA is spying onto the crossing is important. Look at all
The main stream corporate shells that are defending the federal government once
again and ask yourself.
Do we have journalists in this country- Glenn Green Walled, for instance the journalist but he's in Brazil? Surely funny
One ringwald comes out as one as like the guy who reported on the NSA's ability to spy on people and the
the mainstream journalist, say: oh, what has happened to Glenn grilled other great fall of blend green. All I love the response. Glens like yes, because, like I used to
offend the USA Glenn Poles.
Some stories, proving the USA problem
He is spying under Carlsson and they're lying and they brought the statement. Usa,
the statement I want to read to you coming to break down how they,
maybe I'll. Let you how they lie now. Let me just stress, I dont, know
if you want to say, is actually spying on her to Carlson I'd, go ahead and assume it's probably the case because they spy on everybody. Are they directly target?
Karlsson. Wanting to leak is messages to get pulled from the air. I dont know talker says so. Tough
says that there is a whistle blower whose communicated with him. Perhaps now, of course,
CNN has come out in sad, not even Fox, believes and pushing back and trying to defend, be, and I say, of all organisations short
but let me let me let me refer you first, a little bit about what's being planed orange, yellow but of the story and they'll go through what's being claimed and debunk the law.
is and expose the lie,
journalists who defend the federal government, really no reports, Tucker Car
and doubles down and claim that an essay is reading as private emails. As he reads
fury achingly dishonest statement from a spy agency that doesn't deny it. That's actually true that statement, bananas aid does not deny it. Let me read, they say
a statement from the USA regarding recent allegations on June, twenty Eightth, twenty twenty one donor Karlsson alleged,
The national security agency has been monitoring our electronic communication and is planning to leak them in an attempt to
This show off the air. Those awful quote this allegation is untrue,
It also has never been an intelligence target of the agency and the USA
has never had any plans dry and take his programme off the air, and I say as a foreign intelligence mission, we we target foreign powers to generate insights on foreign activities. That could harm the? U S, with limited exception,
an emergency. Let us they may not target EU citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes the targeting
That is a lie. I mean it's technically the truth.
S kind of the truth. But it's not true. They spy on everybody. We ve seen it it will. It was.
almost ten years ago. All the documents that got released
Edward Snowden published by Glenn, Green Walden, Lore, Poydras and others
the guardian and then the intercept we sought
I say was just bulk collecting data and apparently they could just so
through data after the fact to see. If there is anything they should know or.
Shouldn't know but thought they should now end yeah violation of the fourth amendment much but
This is a really great opportunity, so I can help you break through the lies.
Emulation of pr statements. Tell you understand how to see the truth of what is being said now.
denial while non denial, but not denying it.
From the other. They definitely want you to walk away with the impression that took across it is wrong.
These allegations are not true, do not believe them. They are not engaging in this and they couldn't if they even wanted to cattle between alone
When you see statements like this, there is clever word play that is used so that they are technically telling the truth. Let's play a game. What the allegations that Tucker Karlsson has levelled against the USA. They are spying on him. That's one allegation. They are planning to leak, his communications as another allegation and they're doing it for political reasons at
allegation and they're doing it because they want to show off a year now. Those last you may overlap. That's why you know said Anne, but anyway I digress takes up. They say Tucker Crossing
I urge the National Security Agency has been monitoring our electronic communication planning to link them an attempt to take a show off the year. This allegation is untrue. What allegation you see here is the challenge here is our. Let me live under with here. Is the first question: are you spying on across him? Yes,
Ok, no answer: do you have any intention
does anyone intend to link the communications. Do you
like Duggar Karlsson, do you want a mafia choose a different questions? This is the trick. You see, in fact checking when they say Donald
from claimed that CNN had stolen all the ice cream on Sunday and ate and another
check where the like CNN, never stall any ice cream from Donald Trump campaign. It was completely absurd, though they did steal. The ice cream on a Tuesday is how that works. They add the extra little bit Tucker wanting to give the full context of the
We explained what was happening to him. The NSA is now lumping it all into one thing saying it's not true. So while they may actually be spying on him,
they're, not spying on him, because they want to show off the air which is, I said,.
You could say opinion anyway because they got it this way. What if the personal
Carlson said they don't like your show and they want to get it taken off the air, the point of leaving it isn't to directly going to taken off the air. It's so that it can create a cascade effect for activist to try and get you
and then the USA could say we are not trying to get
the air we're trying to get other people take em off here you see how that works, non denial, denial and I say as a foreign intelligence mission. That's a funny one overwhelms areas.
Let's get the smart, Tucker Karlsson has never been an intelligence target. Oh they added a word. What did you add intelligence target? That's interesting,
Look I'm not saying anyone's proven anything. I'm certainly saying ETA has not denied anything. Tucker Karlsson has never been an intelligence target. Ok,
Is he an ancillary target? Is giving our irish communications being in
after due to the sources he's communicating with, and therein lies the big story. What, if
or is communicating with a confidential source? The essays
spying on that source and in the process has spied on Tucker Karlsson. This happens all the time. In fact, it happened to Michael Flynn, the hall,
on masking scandal. You may remember so here we go.
you know what I see this and I'm like sounds like their spying autumn. We target foreign powers dinner. It insights with with limited exceptions, emergency
so they're, basically saying there could be a circumstance in which they are swallowed, her Karlsson,
let us say, may not targeted? U S, citizens without a court order who said there were targeting of it,
tiredly possible? What actually happens if they intercepting communications in the process of spying on someone else now
but something else entirely here. It could be that individuals at the USA are doing this. It's really that simple.
And we see it all the time with news organisations when
a single journalist does something wrong. They'll say the name of the company and not the person.
The works, so you can have someone lie. Oliver Darcy of CNN publish a big fake news article and then those eight CNN does not do. This. Cnn did not do this because it was Oliver Darcy. Who did you know? I mean I'm nuts suggesting Liberace actually do
Publish effect is article, but I used his name simply because I have an article from him defending the USA. I love it Tucker, Karlsson,
claimed the USA spying on him. Even his own colleagues, don't seem to believe it
Ok is there on is that is our aim
yeah, that's as opinion no witnesses does.
Pinion tag on this. Just as media Oliver has just posting opinion pieces. That's fine! I got no beef with opinion pieces, but that's all he says:
Ceuta Zealand's upset that Fox NEWS didn't run. Wall to Wall coverage exaggerate their upset that Fox news is
covering the story sang it should be beg. You said Oliver Darcy says the Fox news. Hostaqua Karlsson made an explosive claim and a show Monday night,
but he had learned through whistleblower. The national security agency is spying on him, and planning to leak is communication that have had to take him off. The air quote the boy
administration is spying on us Karlsson declared to millions of fox of yours. We have confirmed that. Let me just pause and say: Tucker didn't break any news when he said that ok, I mean Technic
Did but like I can tell you right now, it has been confirmed. The USA is spying on you and me and everybody else, but you get the point.
Darcy says Carlson's own colleagues don't appear to be buying what he selling. What makes you think that all of our Oliver did you ask the people at Fox NEWS was that you do-
that you're just making assumptions in writing things about it. Amazing
Borrowing it unusual circumstance if a reputable news organization had confirmed the USA or any arm of the. U S. Government was spying on one of its top employees. It would be a story of significant consequences,
When the Washington Post in the New York Times recently learned the trunk Justice Department sees the records of its reporters, the revelation
two weeks of coverage and a commitment from the bite administration to end such practices. You see the game there playing
when they recently learned Tucker Karlsson came out at a whistle blower, provided them within four.
certain! Ah, could it be that the reason Fox NEWS, as it run stories on it yet is that talker is relying and experience and the new division needs confirmation? Do you trust, Tucker Karlsson? Clearly, Oliver doesn't do you, though viewer probably I tend to tend to trust across our trust. Everybody completely, but I don't think he's making it up. However, the individual came forward Tucker.
And it made these claims could be wrong. You see so maybe the journalist Fox NEWS or like we need hardly
confirmation of this and their reaching out for for comment and talker decided to run with his experience to pre empt any potential leaking that may occur. It's that simple
there's, not a lot to say about it. Other than show me the evidence Tucker and you know for them
meantime will just say: ok, we're not gonna take actions based on it. We know the USA Spies
or CNN, is desperately trying to come up ratings.
cars are not only alleged that the USA
spying on em, but that was conspiring
come off the air engaging in the conduct for political reasons, but the morning after Karlsson, delivered is
shall claim none of his colleagues covered it. A search of foxes transcripts did not reveal any reveal any coverage on Tuesday morning, even foxen fronts. The right way- and this is this- is interesting to become the honest because ground, not news, has tracked forty four sources decide discussing this
All these are. These are rated sources, so there's probably way more sources. Waymore outside of communism
biggest stories of the others past week, maybe even the month, maybe even the year. So yes, it's getting heavily covered and their sign foxes and covering it are given that one that is interesting. A search of foxes transcripts not reveal any coverage. Tuesday morning, even Foxen friends that you'd Bala blog from conspiracies blah blah blah pass on the story, and the Fox NEWS website also did not appear to carry cover
of Carlson's claim foxes top executives, so just chief executive, Susan, Scott and President J Wallace had also not really statements condemning USA. Suppose it behaviour by Tuesday afternoon
Are you saying that Tucker literally made the whole thing up? That's a bold claim. That is a very, very bold claim.
you'd. Think then set of writing a speculative up ad. You would try to prove whether or not Karlsson is making these things up
I know, and I can already people saying what are you doing to me just reading CNN, we are high
journalists we just heard another reporter- was on TIM Cast outcome. We will absolute
be having a newsroom and we will absolutely be saying we need comments from CNN from far from all this.
innovations I wanna know of sea and ends actually done a new work. I would like to reach out for comments unit. Did you do it
currently work on any story. Stragglers down or who is publishing, operates the same two Fox news. Anyone currently working on these stories. That's what but we'll get there we'll get there and the next week, or so, hopefully, TIM Casta com will be re launched with the new design, which is gonna
amazing and we ve already got. I think we're too have we have four writers already for writers. Is this really fantastic stuff? They say Fox. A Fox news spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment on why the network is failing to cover crossings, claim because
Maybe they are they gonna say. The spokesperson also did not respond to questions about why Fox executive remaining silent Karlsson stood by his claimed earnest broadcast Tuesday night. He also indicated he tried, calling it as a director director directly, but it could get through on Tuesdays. Carlson's show is beginning the USA tweeted statement indicating the fox.
claim is untrue took across it has never been we what we went through, that they gonna
the Karlsson is foxes. Hydrated House has a history of peddling conspiracy theories. This fact was viewers.
recently claimed the FBI orchestrated January six insurrection, a claim that has since been thoroughly fact checked. I love that one he didn't say debunked. You know why, because it's not. They used to say that that our conspiracy theory it's been debunked, and then it gets re bunked. I guess, and so they don't say that just been fact checked. What does that mean factual confirmed? Are you saying it's been confirmed as out fact check me
Ok, did the FBI orchestrate the January six insurrection Orchestra,
the strong word, but it seems like there were deaf
confidential informants and the F b I knew was happening and I wouldn't say orchestrated, but maybe we don't know, I certainly think they played a role. I certainly think at the very least they knew because they did have informants and a lot of questions are raised. I do disagree whatever Karlsson in his segment because he said these people weren't arrested. They are unnamed their likely informants. This means the FBI's like well well. Well, well, you're you, your plane, hopscotch body,
With all due respect. I understand the point is he's making, I think, he's probably correct. The FBI is heavily involved in a lot of stuff, but we got a slow down a bit
I I don't play. I complain about speculation. Why? Because look at CNN refusing to debunk the story. They have been burned so bad and publishing.
news that they are worried about making asserting a hard claim about bunking or debunking or whatever, neglect
meanwhile chimed in. He says: first, it's bizarre that an essay govern governor government and I say not gov what the tyrannical allows.
plies, that's true on the actual, and I say tweet, you cannot reply.
Second- and I say it has used the same deceit for years, they can spy on you as citizens, communications without targeting the american third and I say,
extremely broad authorities to collect communications without targeting a person.
He doesn't in no way ratifying or supporting the claim that an essay collected, the communications of Karlsson or any Fox House said because I dont know what I know for sure this
and I say, as a non denial denial using the same thing
this framework they always used to mislead the public back and twenty thirteen using NSA's topsecret Doc
I reported in detail how the unless it collects,
doors and monitors Americans communications without a warrant and without targeting the american
which is all and I say, denies that it did here's another article. We reported at the height of the Snowden reporting
the USA constantly lies or the Pfizer process. It has brought authorities to collect Americans communications and often does without targeting the person and
just ask why the Pentagon just suspended a pro Trump security official for on authors
disclosure of classified information from the USA, meaning presumably that she leaked and as activities to someone she wasn't supposed to talk to about it. This, my friends, sorry
for burying the lead may be the bombshell from Glenn Greenwell Bloomberg dot com. Yesterday top Pentagon, cyber official security clearance suspended over suspected disclosure
ass. A fight info, Kate, oriented and at a sea lawmaker beat marked Sandford in twenty two primary with help from Trump but lost the general appointed the Pentagon in twenty nineteen fascinating. This could very well backup Tucker
Thousands claims that he's being spied on, someone came forward a pro trump lots of either they say. Kate, Katy, Harrington, chief information, scary officer for the Pentagon's acquisition into statement office was informed. May eleventh that our security clearance for access to classified information,
is being suspended as a result of a reported unauthorized disclosure of classified information and sobs
removal of access by the National Security agency. Could it be that the reason top across his reporting and information now is that this story is just coming out and now he can reveal that information or maybe to be completely fair. This story has nothing to do.
Whatever Karlsson, it's all speculative we dont know. I do think. However, it's it's interesting, and maybe maybe a bit speculative on another glens, part enough that you
the Pentagon, just a splendid approach programme: sick security, official. Well, she learned,
on May eleventh, her Clarence, ah or clearance racks deposit information was being suspended, the National Security Agency, which is part of that,
I gather some of the information blah blah blah, so we don't know exam
Lee what happened. They say the memo to Arendt and provided no details of the possible disclosure of Information Pentagon acquisition. Spokesperson just come ass. Well said: the department can't comment on any question about airing tens claims Tucker said that he got a phone call from out from a whistle blower recently. So perhaps the completely unrelated, that's fair,
Still there is a lot to investigate and the story there's a lot more in his approach from official who is leading information. Then you get one of the most prominent led like thought leader
in my guy gets a lot of trouble. Don't like our girls him and said
that someone linked in this information. I think that a time problem here, but
maybe somebody jails are being kept at par, being held back for the sake of security, or maybe it's just wishful thinking and they're not related
once as this. Would you do when you re security, state agency designed to lie to the public? And you don't want anyone to see that the debunking of the misleading claims and propaganda you post just bizarre and he's referencing that they're not allowing people to reply.
It is interesting because I wonder if that's a violation of the first amendment, I guess they're, not creating a public forum them see,
at an embassy personalities who never heard of incidental collection and could spell fight.
A long explain it out in force.
Manning. Everyone believe at the USA statement constitute meaningful than eyelid doesn't and should be uncritically accepted their state tv. That's true.
More points for the USA, Karlsson Matter beyond what its noted amazing timing. Near
times today, reports. There are serious question that the Oversight Board Review, of how the USA collects and reads Americans communications without warrants or targeting in the funding that works. Oliver Darcy did you even read the New York
times I mean this story is, from literally yesterday, updated this morning incredible
privacy Watchdog Board secret report. An essay system fell short member, say they going to mention the system ex key scores system for spying on Americans and they're, not targeting them they're, just collecting all their information. As that and mighty article doubts. The controversy is about the programme I first reported and twenty thirteen called ex key scored. A Jay
and a database of internet communications that Annesley agents can and do use to search communications without warrants, and many links to his original reporting is fascinating. Isn't it Tucker Karlsson comes out a day before that, the over
site watchdog, has a story in the New York Times about them. Falling short, we
the story about a woman who was pro trot and had her her Clarence revoked just about a month and a half ago. I think it's all rather interesting. It could just be incidental or coincidence.
but let's be real people, the USA does spy on everybody. We know it and it was stupid to think they weren't we had built Benny
in the two thousands telling us they were doing this? We do
need necessary
We all of the hard evidence to know what was happening, but the hard evidence was an excellent well, a bit of evidence. I mean getting all these documents helped confirm what we already knew I'll put it that way. So when Tucker Karlsson comes out, it's happening I'd, say and, and that of, if you, if you would come out that I was being spot and I beg ok,
and you have course there spying on me for sure and Tucker is probably spying on you. They got all your nasty little phone messages were
the media loves to just eight
CNN Msnbc, all these other NBC. They exist to hate Trump and the right. So of course, they'll defend the end. I say only their necks segments coming up at one p m on this channel. Thanks rang out- and I will see you all them.
Across the United States, we have seen new bills being signed into law that bar biological mails from competing against women, notably in full
What our Rhonda Santas signed this bill he's now being sued over at the human rights campaigner Non profit, is falling. A lawsuit in Ohio Democrats in a very
tsar fashion, be can't begin screaming and banging on their tables. So loud.
barely here, was happening. Why? Because a Republican introduced an amendment that would bar
biological mails from competing against biological females. It's that simple.
though. The conversation around Trans people in sports is a very complicated conversation. There's a lot of questions that get brought up that I think, are legitimate coming from the left, but there's a lot of things the left ignores when it comes to biology
competition, the purpose of competition. The first thing I ll say is this political behaviour, democrat
Just screaming and yelling I saw this and I like I don't care what the bill is. What is wrong with you?
and when you see the screaming
We wonder how far away it is until some Mozart's caning, the other person, no, you may
the story of the Congress, congressmen caning and other congressmen?
just before the civil war, I'm not trying to get too much of that. But the point is
I mean this is unhinged
just banging and slamming like what are you doing? Are we in kindergarten and this, like an old white dude, two very strange, it's very strange behaviour
when you have a conversation around transgender individuals in sports, and we have these these.
pills passing, so it's very important we actually get to
the root of the arguments and talk about them, and for that I want to say,
one thing before we start, I'm not trying to disparage or death
backed anybody I'll try and be as respectful as possible when talking about Trans people in sports, but I think that there is a very real discrepancy in the conversation around transgender athletes and sports. We typically only
ever hear of bills, barring biological mails from competing against biological females, but not the other way around. I mean this enough itself is a very serious problem in major league sports women. Biological females are allowed to compete, but for some reason they don't it can be very simple. These are people who
aren't the best of the best. So if you have an open league were literally male or female, anybody can compete, and typically just like tall strong men. Well, there's a biological component competition and you can't change these things.
now? How do we just a story about what's happening in with the with with Ohio? What we're gonna get into some issues pertaining trans men? These are people born biologically female and then competing against females. In one instance, an athlete was forced to do.
Mac bags, you may know the story, and conservatives thought this was someone who is male competing gets females. None of this is a trans man who did not want to wrestle biological females, but had to because many of these laws that
past. Don't understand it's it's a one way street. Essentially, if a Trans man wants to compete against biological males that there's note its actual just a disadvantage for trans men, but of a Trans man compete against biological females and they're taking testosterone, it's a disadvantage for the biological females. You can't what actions at which can do, but I'll say it just a complicated than the other,
component of this, as it appears that there is a Trans individual born female, no
They were trans and are not as personal taking hormones, but choosing instead.
Coming out and sang it to compete against biological females and that this is a bit more complicated. But this is the court composer, the conversation that's being missed.
Thus, when the Republicans in Ohio coming out saying biological males against female Democrats, our screening there's another have to this conversation that needs to be had
It creates a very serious conundrum for a lot of these laws and what we should do in terms of sporting events, but I'll tell you what the
isn't it one of these individuals are maybe talk about escaped border, and I certainly think it is
We are entering a world where people just want to there's no competition. You know if you want to play basketball, do you identify as being Paul know if you're tall and strong and athletic you can be the best Michael Phelps has long arms. I guess so he's good good swimmer or entering this this this world, where you literally can identify as the world's best and that's it.
starting to happen in a marketing. So I could just say this: look. I've never had a vision of myself as the best skate border in the world. When I was younger,
didn't envision a future where I was on the top podium at the ex games- and I never pushed myself all that hard to be the best
gate border in the world. I just liked skateboarding, but what, if they're somebody who truly believes they are the best that to be themselves, they must be one of the best state borders in the world, and another component of that is the
their gender identity. So they decide that it makes sense for them to compete against women when their biologically mail and then they end up just winning. A lot is actually
happen all that more often than conservatives bring up a lot of stories where they sang it does happen, and the left us have a good argument it. It doesn't happen all that often, but when it does it substantially
and there is very serious philosophical arguments about why we shouldn't do this.
I don't have all the answers. Let me just region
It was and then I'm gonna go through on some actual athletes where we have this conundrum Fox NEWS reports. Chaos erupted in Ohio House floor when our public in proposed amendment that would ban transgender women from participating.
in sports and, first of all, Fox NEWS, said Transgender Females Fox fix your headline
Someone who is transgender is an individual who doesn't identify with the with the
violent with agenda. They were assigned a birth, that's what I say if they are female mean
they have ovaries and they are transgender. They would be a trans man. The bill does not ban that anyway, digress. I know it's smite confusing Falada people, they say Rep Jenna Powell had proper
was the addition to a bill that would allow college athletes to make money off their name image and lightness, and the state the bill itself past the Ohio House, fifty seven to thirty six and will now be sent back to the Senate to vote on the amended legislation. It is crucial to preserving the integrity of women's rights and women's and Girl Sports Powell said over the din of the democratic outcry, unfair yelled, Democratic Rep, Michael scandal that
would prohibit transgender females. Now that's wrong from participating in girls sports on both the high school and college level instead requiring under
going Mail or Co. Add teams, schools that violate the rule would face of lawsuits. They are not talking about females trying compete against males. This is incorrect.
Which you dont transition between male or female, the idea is transitioning
man to women, although to be fair, they ve definitely change the definitions. Overton lawmakers also voted to remove the emergency clause, which have allowed the bill to take effect immediately upon passing the Senate.
Hi. Oh, if the bill is ultimately signed with Joint Alabama Florida, Georgia, Mississippi New Mexico and Texas to become the seven state to pass
Image and likeness legislation set to begin on July. First, oh hi
bill is no longer on track to take effect. That day with the amendment is about making transgender people. The other said: Rep Casey, winding Democrat from Hudson of the amendment. According to Buckeye Extra, like many
you, I have fought for women's equality. All my life, and now I am continuing to fight for to day, said Rep Jean Schmidt, our love land, who argue that menstruation hampered female athletes. If you have a daughter, you should believe in this Sab said: Rep Sarah Carruthers are of Hamilton in March twenty twenty I dont became the first,
to ban Trans Interim from girl sports this year alone, governors from Alabama, Arkansas, Missy, Montana, Tennessee westward you gettin flora, all sign legislation similar to the transcend our ban. That was taken up in a higher now what we
The video, I might add, is just absolutely bonkers. Lemme clematis play it get prepare your ears, I suppose there we go to their dreams and I think that our state and is crucial to preserving women's rights and the integrity of women's, an girl sports across our country tree female athletes are currently losing scholarships opportunities, metals, pageant aching and training opportunities. This amendment will require schools that our party
oh h, to designate supper, T protested in biological science knows no school innocent laconic, Palmprint or organisation that regulates inner scholastic shalt, permit biological mailed to participate on automatic seed or not letting competition designated only four by
logical thing to do. This is insane the screaming and the pounding and the bill only targets,
I illogical. Males wanting to compete against biological females are right. Let's get into all of the hour
all of these arguments, and I have a lot to say on this because we talk
I've had a lot of arguments about with a lot of left us, and this one I mean that is just in seeing these people screaming shut up. Calm down, you lost present your arguments, these people. This is not how politics
in this country now unstressed. I am in no way intended to disparage any any of these people, in fact I'll be defending them to a certain degree. The first thing I would start with is MAC bags. Mac begs the high school wrestler MAC bags was born female started, taking testosterone twin track, two
transition to mail, but because of some of these laws was not allowed to compete against males. It doesn't make sense for someone who's, taking testosterone supplements and-
female to wrestle against females many coins.
It is on the wrong side of this one, because they saw this photo of someone who looked very masculine, putting a seminal, very feminine and ahead lock, and they said this is just wrong because they assumed MAC bags was born mail, not correct
This is an instance where these laws need to be carefully thought out. If you just say you can only
just put on a sport in which your your birth certificate wreck is recognised, whatever you're missing a big part? The picture a one way street if your boy
Female no one seems to have a problem if you compete against males, but if you're born mail. This is where people bring up issues, because there are advantages
pre, natal testosterone. I've interviewed scientists about this, and it is a real issue. It is not something
can just transition away from. There is a very prominent transgender athlete who was actually a researcher, I think of the Pacific Northwest who did a study that found pre, natal testosterone, meaning the
maybe in the womb receiving more testosterone gets an advantage, perhaps due to its called fast twitch muscle. These aren't. These are muscle fibres that can release large amounts of
gee very quickly! My understanding is that there are good for big, bursts of strength and then slow twitch is better for indifference, but if you're competing in sports you're often going to be using high burst energy list many of these sports. So it's very difficult to figure out how to actually solve this problem. Now I've had a lot of left.
Say to me there you go to him. That argument and of itself suggests that it's all arbitrary and we should just decide who can compete on whatever they want. You ok, then work
We find the rules, and I'm fine with that, but there are certain certain things that need to be talked about in the interests of
bags. This is a biological female who is transitioning to a man which is, as they say, a social contract. There's a distinction here that we should talk about. First and foremost, they say that I mean first. Let me let me just let me to stress this point that I'm I'm personally can
about. How is it that you say someone is transitioning based on the clothing they wear right. That's that
it isn't that anybody can wear any clothing there? Their biological males who are not trans, who wear, dresses and put on make up, and they say they are challenging the gender binary, but they consider themselves to be men because clothing is a social construct, but there are many people who, simply by nature of changing their clothing or using different colors claim to be male or female. The components of one of the core reasons why we label people based on male or female, specifically because of biological differences. Men tend to have more muscle. Mass tend to men tend to be taller. The average mail is a few inches taller than the average female. Because of this we have gender segregation. You argue against it. I am all for it. The argument, I'm saying by all means have to have the discussion, but we need to talk about something else now this ones
admittedly a little person I've ever get. As many of you know, I've been scapegoating for several decades. I have some friends who are prominent female up prostate borders and a lot of people watching this show. Maybe you watching this are prominent state borders, perhaps even some prose glinda. You guys message me and talk to him about certain things all the time. So this one I was actually com
letting you know whether I should even get into this, but I'm going to because we need to have this conversation
I am in no way seeking to disparage
LEO Baker anyway. In fact I've skated with LEO in the past years and years.
years ago, at a few, just like a few different parks. I know
they people who know leo- and I think LEO Baker is seriously an amazing skateboard. However, there is
things that I think will be brought up, because if we're going to be, if we're trying to be fair,
I want to say that biological males, you know if you transition- can compete against biological females. Then we need to address people who are trend towards.
Franz, either non binary or male, who still choose to compete against biological females. The issue I take with this: if you want to be fair and have a distinct bracket between men and women, be it social contract or otherwise
It doesn't make sense, in my opinion, that someone who was born mail and transitions will compete against females and that someone who was born female and transitions will still complete compete against females. The same is true for MAC bags. I believe MAC Bags
should have been allowed and should be allowed to compete against biological males, or perhaps there is a different discussion to be had there, but, like I said it's not like, you can just say, treat everyone identically, because males and females are different. I want to point something out: there's an article four
up. Sugar dot come, and we have this the second here that let, but what about little Emulous read a little bit bait LEO Baker is a seven time x, seven time Ex games Medalist the Fifth Rank Street skate border in the world among women
not men, I am not trying to be disparaging anyway. That's just not the fifth right streets keep order in the world if we were going
make a non binary bracket. Leo beggar would pay
will we be I'm not again in the bottom, hundreds, maybe thousands, maybe bottom thousands not again not try to be disparaging this is this is just true
they say and became one of the youngest scares ever to metal at the Ex games into doesn't six against women, but dominating
women's division for years. You see made bakers during two embracing themselves
a non binary person, an athlete difficult just be
on binary in competition and in sports is a really large thing to pick apart. They told pop sugar Baker now twenty eight says
success in the women's category played a role in suppressing their true gender identity, exploring there
ask another masculinity wasn't something they began to do and how about till around eighteen or nineteen years old there wasn't anything to think about. Baker said I was successful now without following my dreams, and that was that Baker was encouraged by sponsors to dress feminine and they complied, but looking back, they say it came at,
now this on Instagram LEO Baker says parents. Are he and they, I believe, so I think he is appropriate. I want to point out this is grammatically confusing when you in
that is when you get when you include a singular and a and a plural in the same sentence. Again, I'm just trying to point out my difficulty, the language and something people should clear up. We say Baker was encouraged responses just feminine and they complied it's a confusing sentence. Just say he complied looking back. He's
It came at a cost. There's there's this obsession with using they when they dont need to, and Baker ON, Instagram says he might heretofore,
A career didn't really allow for that exploration, so I kind of just tabled it for a really long time until he got to the point where I couldn't take it anymore, and so that was an eight year process of living, a fragmented life.
It became public knowledge that Baker was Non binary when they were featured in the music video from Miley Cyrus, his mother daughter in July of twenty nineteen. Remember that date
the video around the one- thirty mark, you see the camera pan over Baker with they and them written on their white shirt.
In a way it was really natural. For me, it just made sense
Those are the vibe of the video. They said. I,
sleep knew. I was trans when I was twenty, they want to know how to explain.
say if I wasn't in the public eye and I wasn't skating in competitions or was just a regular teenager, I think I probably would affect
not a lot sooner, the skate industry at large. I feel a lot of resistance from. They believe that when they first started to present as masculine, they were
unfairly fairly and competitions based on the way they looked. Obviously
ending in my power and sticking to who I am and being authentic, really spoke volumes more than just winning a competition is, I think, it's paying off now. What
it be like if I was living as Lacy Baker, there's nothing there, it's just hollow. She wasn't amount egos intervention, that's or they had a nickname Lee from twenty thirteen. Ok
respect. If you knew that you were trans when you were in twenty, I and I mean this genuinely- I am not trying to be disrespect ones. Yom try to be very, very careful here, I'd like to point out that we can pull up from November fifteenth twenty nineteen women's street competition in which LEO Baker, twenty
place global ranking, fifty eight okay? So that's November nineteenth, if it was public to the world that LEO was Trans in July twenty nineteen and that LEO knew he was trans
at twenty? Why still compete in the women's category? Why is it that we have MAC bags wanting to compete against males? Why is it that we have trends, women wanting to compete in the women's division yet
when we have a very prominent Trans individual whose born female they remain in the women's division. This is a double standard that needs to be talked about, especially in the context of these laws, because I will stress, it makes no sense
for someone who was born female and transitions to stay in the
division if you are arguing the same that if your arguing that Trans women should be competing against women, you see my point: we
just put every single person in the women's category, unless we have like one category like two categories of just no gender requirements and in one cow,
one ones literally meritocracy in one's just whatever you want to be. I dont understand here we have. We have more in October, twentieth, twenty nineteen: U S! Skateboarding national champions, women's street, LEO Baker competing against
in fourth place, and then we will make a few more. We have this one, a thirty second place, and this one is
timber nineteenth twenty nineteen. If LEO is saying they knew they were trans, since they were twenty years old and had a nickname from twenty thirteen. Why still compete against
is there? Is there something boring LEO from competing in them in them in the men's, skateboarding division, or should there
Non binary division. I dont know my point is this: we have a large group of Democrats scream
slamming the table thing is unfair: to ban biological mails from women's categories
but they're not screaming when you have trends of people, war, female whore, transitioning or trans competing against females. Well, actually, I guess in the case of MAC bags, it was because they wanted something. Mac bags wanted to compete against biological males and they said no. The argument is broken. It is not a complete conversation, that's kind of the point now with respect to LEO Baker. There are these these. These claims that pop up that, I think, are inappropriate. They're they're, taking away any concept of actual biological ability, its effect when, when pop sugar opens with fifth ranked street, skate border in
world under under a what? What ranking system? If I were to name the top scape orders in the world, let me see Niger Houston would probably be number one may be right
pulled by we get you toe origami.
And a rallying Jerome Dorado Chris Joslyn and like a man who does this by,
let me guess maybe a little bit older there's top for, but I can tell you this: you look at the top rankings and there's twelve or fifteen guys that set themselves apart from everyone else in the world. Plus you got votes, get it if you like.
In in when you blanket statement and remove women's from the from from the statement
It changes everything. Soap opera, like this wheels rat cool person, wish the best for them and in other,
success, but I'm I'm wondering why it is that we don't have any kind of calm, rational and legitimate conversation around how to solve for whenever this is. If you have people saying, MAC bags should be limited. Democrats. Mac bags should be competing against me.
does not females. I don't understand why there's no call for the same thing for LEO now to be fair and an absolutely with respect LEO has not completed. At least according to the border com listings has not competed since November
fifteenth twenty nineteen. Many other women have competed in omens division, so it may just be that only
had it at a pet coming to have being like. This is why I am
We now aware of it and I'm gonna, be stepping out and not competing and swelling, because it's not appropriate, but
you look at that interview and LEO says that they knew they were trans when there are twenty had a nickname in twenty thirteen.
It sounds to me like there's a very serious double standard and we did when we need to talk about this. If Ohio, floored, Arkansas West Virginia Montana Army passing these laws that
specifically saying males, can't compete against females? Well, then, we need
scotch about what it means for female to compete against males and therein lies, I guess the obvious truth. Biological males out compete biological females in every in it in almost every single major sports. They almost as I'm I'm, not an absolute us. I don't have all of every sport. There could be some yo, something specific that women are,
doing better. There's the legend of the soviet female snipers. They were they that an easier time of laying still for long periods of time- and maybe that's true- I am not an expert on this- not an expert on
on a lot of stuff, but I can point out one very simple bit of common sense. There is
rule, barring females from competing
the NBA. The M l, B or or otherwise but they're, not in these leagues women, how a females have tried the true I have tried out for the NFL as pickers and they ve come up short, but it's possible. We could see a female kicker soon.
It doesn't make sense, ok and when we needed to make sound, so we know what the rules are otherwise right
it seems to me that there are people in Austria
written. I was reading about MAC bags wanting to live their true
self, and have this documentary or they're talking about these trans woman, runners NEO run running track in Connecticut, there's a lawsuit over
and they say they want to be their true selves and, unlike aye aye Temple, actually pretty good at skateboarding, I've been roleplaying a bit more reason.
Because I'm just chilling out and man landscape warnings got real corporate in the and everything's gonna. Get me download that, but the pretty good skateboarding
I had some light sponsorships when I was younger. I can do a bunch of really crazy flip track. Some thirty five out of my prime, not not super interested in being the best. Never was
Ah, I was never built for being.
Keep what in the world has never driven to be the best people in the world.
and are quite honestly did not have the physical capabilities to be the basket board in the world, and I stated the best of my abilities. I still do. I learn new tricks every single day and have fun
I'm not going to demand that my identity, as my true self, this great skateboard or be recognized by anyone else to not reality. Some people are born, like Michael Phelps, with specific physical traits that just congratulations, that's what you are but
People have different bodies. Some people are tall, some people are short, and that means as much as you want to be Michael Phelps. You might not be now look amongst both that dude was amazing, dude woozy, like you'd like five five or like five first, and then he could three sixty dunk, because that dude sat on the take it is as if I wanted. I will see it, it'll make it mine and he he is one of the greatest possible players of all time, especially considering that he didn't have the that that the height advantages of many other players he proved UK
just do it but think, but the hard work that he put in the dedication determination. What we're talking about now is the elimination of that and just making sports more about, feel good, Annie
If, for any reason wants to join, can join, in which case, I think the end results should be like an open league of anybody can compete. You can have by onyx, you can have you can take drugs, you can take hormones can do whatever you want. I missed the unresolved and just people pushing
I mean, I genuinely think they make it makes once you get an you gotta human being large bionic arms, and if they can throw a basketball or swing a hammer and throw it far than someone else, will there we go so long as attached to it
in brain, that's computing, I suppose that's where we're going eventual, I guess I'll, just be computers, robots competing at each other, but if we're really coming to this place now,
where we can say that someone who was born male, who isn't good enough to be in the top leagues, could just compete against females and that someone born female who is one of the best females but decides to beat you transition it be. Trans should still compete against females. Clearly, something isn't making sense for what the women's division is supposed to be right. Should someone who is not a woman compete against women and if you believe, transmit our women, then I have a question about LEO Beggar competing against women and to be
there again. This may just be why LEO Baker hasn't competed since since November of a phoney nineteen. So I look, I know, that's why I often try to avoid bring up people's names specifically in certain stories unless there of a particular,
status, and I will put it to the best of my ability, I'm being respectful. But please let us address these questions. Otherwise, it's just gonna keep it's gotta be more more contentious. Knowns, no note the rules are. Maybe these arguments are happening. I mean like maybe the lawsuits in these battles and politics are the arguments that will eventually hammer out the details and we'll figure it out until then. Here's some measures, I think, need to be addressed, not leave their necks segments coming up at four p m over at Youtube COM slashed him cast thanks for hang out, and I will see you all them.
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