Grand Jury Underway To INDICT Donald Trump On Fraud, Liberals Say Indictment Will END Trump 2024 Run. Democrat operatives, the January 6th committee and private actors are doing everything to stop Trump 2024 from happening.
Meanwhile Ron DeSantis is floated as a potential front runner for 2024 should Trump be unable to run.
Republicans heavily favor trump but Desantis wins if Trump is out of the picture.
Meanwhile Democrats mostly want Biden to run again but Biden 2024 seems increasingly unlikely to happen.
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Today is December. Seventeen twenty twenty one and our first story. A grand jury is
currently underway, seeking to indict Donald Trump on fraud charges.
Rules are saying the indictment wealth and any chance at a Trump twenty. Twenty four run in our next story.
Jordan. Three Marines have been discharged for refusing the vaccine and up to three
thousand more service men and women.
The same discharge can be very
serious for the armed forces and are less
Laurie is me addressing the controversy from
last night's TIM cast iron podcast with all the rugged man. I think it's a good break down and I think
something to hear on politics and philosophy, and I feel, like the show, give us a good
view will leave us five stars now, let's get into that first story:
over it
guest. I Arel podcast event, many guests, former members of the Trump Administration, who insist Donald Trump, will be running and twenty Twond,
four, and he will win. However, we
book with some other people say: Rhonda, scientists is gonna run and if he does Trump will, on top of a run for his money, cause dissenters could really really when this one. But now we have this article from the nation left leftwing publication. Why trump won't be the candidate in twenty twenty four and the reason
they say: Tromp is going to be indicted for racketeering and fraud because of his financial crimes. Maybe me
B. He will be indicted. Will he then
able to run and twenty twenty four twenty four is a bit of an eternity away. So we'll see, but my friends. Yes, it is true. There is currently a grand jury being kin,
and determine whether or not there were.
Be an indictment issued for Donald Trump. We have the story.
from business insider. They say one of his accountants is already testified and we have this breaking story from Forbes. Forbes testified before the Trump Grand jury yesterday
Here's why we fought their subpoena and I respect Forbes for fighting this subpoena now goes beyond just what's happening with this
I meant you have to wonder why the age up in New York said not to run. Could it be that they,
The only way to stop Donald Trump is through. Let's just call it
stroll illegal law, fair lava
typically means like a lawsuit. Ever biogas Laufer, tangled up in Lhasa,
which there saying are coming from happening
actually believe already happened tangled up in
in any case and go
after his allies, the January six committee to strain his resources and then tromp may not be able to actually run again
Twenty four, and this is what I truly believe. I think it is a fair,
reasonable assessment to say that the powers that be the establishment be at state level be its private lost
it's where the January six committee. They are doing everything in their power to put massive weight.
On Donald Trump and his allies, so that he will not be able to run. They did this in its first term, why they didn't think he'd win. They thought it was a pied. Piper candidates would lead people astray
and fracture the republican Party. Well, what kind of did that fracturing republican Party
by storming Anne and winning. They do not expect that one, then that they decided well. We must obstruct they strapped as many waits Donald Trump as possible. You at Russia Gate and you had to impeachment. They were doing everything they could to shackle him. So he could not lead this guy.
and they don't want him to get another chance now. So in comes the law affair, which is why you
see the left wing publication say he is not going to be the twenty twenty four candidate and maybe we'll be Rhonda Santas.
I think so, and I certainly like a lot of what around us answers is doing. A lot of people do and have to be honest. Donald Trump has a lot wrong with him in his character. He did right in many ways for this country far from her
I liked the ending of the wars? Will Rhonda Santas be the right person for the job? I'll tell you. I think it is extremely likely
I understand this gets elected and goes full neo con establishment. I see
I'm getting elected off of many issues. We we care about covered freedoms in Florida, fighting critical race, praxis in schools
and so you'll get alot of people out of moderates independence sang the economy is what's important. Culture is what's important and
You want to make sure that you know in line with both of these things. The cover restrictions are not you know handed down like are not to be reinstated and an
gonna be shutting down our lives again, for that Rhonda Santa seems to be the guy. However, I think he's,
bill, your traditional republican player, but it's not entirely fair that speculative. Why Mama, I'm kind of jaded guy, you know
trust these politicians. I did not vote for the first time only.
After seeing what he was doing and then seeing his second term agenda. I said: ok, I'll vote for this guy. I've never been the biggest fan of his attitude. Rhonda Sand,
it's done many things that I think are good and that are worthy of support, but is also mean
I believe he signed on Anti Beady s largest legislation, anti free it. It's opposing free speech, Duff solo, but more complicated than that, but I'm not convinced
I am not convinced that any one of these politicians will do right by us, and I have seen what the established republican Party does their trash their awful. They don't fight for anybody but themselves or their their thee there. The
Washington Generals, the Democrats, Harlem Globetrotters Ballistic.
what's going on with this criminal indictment that may be coming for Donald Trump and what else Democrats and the Union Party are doing to try and stop Donald Trump from running again.
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he's these grant this grand jury and then on to talk about why the nation is saying Trump will be indicted
business insider says a long time. Accountant of former President Donald Trump recently gave evidence to a grand jury
investigating whether Tromp Boris Company committed fraud in their business dealings. The Washington Post, reported CNN later confirm the report.
the office of the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus fans, junior
has been investigating whether trumpet the Trump Organization inflated the value of some of its properties when trying to secure loans and twenty nineteen November Vance formed
and jury to ascertain whether this, whether his office could pursue criminal charges, Donald Bender, a Trump accountant with the firm measures
recently made a brief appearance in front of a grand jury. The post said now
Post nor CNN, said when the appearance took place. Bender had access to transport
information and prepared financial statements at the Trump Organisation sent to lenders
his office also was investigating whether Trump allied to his own accountants than your time said. Tuesday, prosecutors,
You potential lenders to tromp were provided with optimistic projections, but the value of his assets that were drawn up by the Trump organization. The time said:
the Manhattan, DA's office and measures.
not immediately respond to insiders request for comment, so this means the common form.
The grand jury is here and grew.
juries almost always return indictments because they're not there to determine guilt there there to determine a preponderance of evidence that the
The emergence of a grand jury, in my opinion, says Trump we'll be indicted, but innocent until proven guilty. And yes, I believe this is all political games and let it boil
Now Forbes has the story out. Forbes testified before the trump grandeur. Yesterday, here's why we fought theirs.
You know some Randal Ladys, as I was almost three months ago, I was supported by the Manhattan Dick District attorney's office. Cyrus Vance you to appear
the grand jury investigating Donald Trump, our subpoenaed today, to testify that the twenty fifteen,
Cover story. I wrote chronicling his decade Longs fixed
Asian with our net worth estimate. My colleague Chase Peter said Winterbourne was also subpoenaed.
for related store and the value of the former president trumps Tower apartment. We ve been fighting these subpoenas ever since full stop much much respect, tremendous respect, these journalists fighting these subpoenas he's. Let me read: they set a dangerous
president. How do we keep an autonomous press when journalists suddenly must testify for or against the subjects they cover or manage the chilling effect when
course of information on matters of public interest. Worry whether reporters could be dragged into a courtroom. Owen journalist hold back fearful of, though, of the resources needed to lawyer up the money mendacity in the circle.
Hence his fixation with the Forbes ranking is well known.
already shared the information. The prosecutor seek with the entire world through our reporting, with a subject himself transparently doing the talking makes it all the more alarming. I agree with Forbes here I think. First, we must recognise the presence of the grand jury. I think we also must recognise the recklessness by
the grand jury is, is behaving coming coming after journalists. That's wrong, and I think this
the over region the zealous of those who are so insanely desperate to stop Donald Trump. Why? Because you'll win the company votes, he got last time. I get a lot of people voted for Joe Biden
There are issues that we can. We can talk about when, when people question what went on in point twenty, but I genuinely believe in it's crazy to me. I've agenda
We believe that a Joe Biden he won, he won.
Those people were locked in their homes, with no sport, no movies with with nothing and all
they got from the media over and over again was tromp was bad that it's a really simple position too, to see that's dimension
the universal mail and voting and how we saw the rules get changed in many areas, but people did vote for this guy. Does that mean that come twenty? Twenty for the same thing will happen o absolutely not because Joe Biden is screwing everything up
so they know they have to pull out all the stops being violated.
First amendment if it means stopping Donald Trump,
I'm very wise and I hope the podcast honestly were each week. I have frank conversations with the most interesting people in the world, from historians to sex workers from politicians to political exiles, and this week Kim Kardashian
You were really credited for helping swing, trumps support for the first Step ACT and there a lot of people on the left that gave you a lot of
criticise you a lot for working with Trump for normalizing him,
What do you say about? I really don't care about the criticism. I mean my
mutation over someone's life like destroy me that
Listen to honestly wherever you get your pockets, he was ass I, after months.
directions on Wednesday. The judge overseeing the grand jury process ordered us to testify, but limited the scope. To simply can
the accuracy of what was in the cover story and the article about the apartment, and so yesterday we did just now testified for about twenty minutes, this fantastic
If you write something, it is hard to be true and a judge says simply: go there:
and tell everyone that you told the truth. I respect that,
analysed should be like. I wrote the truth if they tried to reach beyond and say, give us privy off the record information. If it were me, I'd say no and the judge would be like you're being
ordered Mr Poul to tell Us- and I would say
No, I will not really
he'll sources, information and I respect off the record. There's challenge
as with the idea of off the record, because sometimes very bad people who do bad things, but if we are going to do the best we can at being transparent. That means sometimes we put,
act. Sources were concerned about certain information, sometimes its partner, sometimes not, but it is a challenge to the real ethical challenged. Now. Put this way sought absolute off. The record is not absolute, it is
You can't just come to me and say I did bad things, but that's off the record Abiola row of UK.
To me with evidence of serious malfeasance like at its core.
I'm going. I'm gonna report it I'm not I'm gonna be
I do not want anything to do this now, if some
comes to me and says here some
I can tell you one backroom: please don't report that because it'll get my mom heard, it'll get me hurt, but here's the import relevant information. I can respect that. If there are real concerns,
what people, security and safety, then? Yes, we respect off the record and I'll be honest to what you need to understand about something being off. The record is that
just deny it. If someone comes to you and says you know, I did acts
and then you say, oh while I'm in a report that, as you know, it's off the record when you do
they just deny and say. I have no idea what is talk enemies line, so if you don't have to
formation on the record. You don't have confirmation of your story and I'll be honest to if someone is not willing to come,
Lord and say something on the record. I sometimes just don't believe that they actually are being genuine in that case. So here's some journalists who are also just confirming the grand jury is here. What are the testify to? It has defied that Trump is obsessed with his net worth that he wanted it to be higher, and thus the argument is by inflating has now
worth valueless properties, he's fraudulently securing loans for his properties or for more properties. Well, here's the nation whose, if they think they say
tromp is going to be indicted for racketeering and fraud because of his financial crimes, and that will prevent him from being the Republican Kennedy. That's what David K Johnston says he's an award winning investigative reporter and his new book, the Big cheat, how Trump fleeced America enriched himself in his family, also Eric Boner and Henry Louis Gates talk about w e B, the bois, the blackest or an activist in the first by the twentyth century. So this is just basically podcast, you know whatever, but the point
think is relatively clear. They're coming for Donald Trump beg the people on the left, genuinely believe. The indictment welcome, and I do believe the indictment will absolutely disrupt trumps campaign for twenty four. Should it happen in the next two years or I should say in about a year I mean twenty three as the primary season trumps gotta be announcing women.
Stories on from TIM Guest outcome, photojournalist sues January six committed to block Subpoena Amy Harris, argues
Peter violates core protections afforded to journalists. We can see the January six committee is coming for everyone there. There are no ethic
there are no morals. There is only a lust for power among these people, which brings me to what they're really willing to
and how far their willing to go to stop Donald Trump January six committee admits to altering text message between Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan Mark meadows. They voted to hold him to a forum for contempt charges goes refusing
we operate with the January six committee. The January six committee, in my opinion, is the epitome of the unit party of the vile scum beggary that infects Congress Caesar evil nasty people. They leak private messages from people, many of which were out of context some where they claim they were multiple messages and they space out to make it seem like different statement or from
people when I was one person- and here we have one of the most deranged and despicable things- a genuine
six committee altered text messages between market Jim, that was from Jim Jordan remark, meadows, where Jim Jordan was quoting a lawyer, and the January six committee took out portions of the statement added punctuation to change the framing because they lie that's the length there are willing to go to,
tromp. The examiner says the January six committee admitted, but a change to text message between former White House chief of Staff, Mark meadows and Wrap Jim Jordan, excluding relevant context about how they wanted. Then, vice president, my pants to handle electoral votes, a spokesman said Wednesday,
graphics, asserted the graphics Adam Shift showed during a Monday night hearing about the newly obtained communications between trumped officials in and you know, and mock meadows had been reform added to support the view that meadows wanted pens to overturn the election results quote the Senate, the Select committee on Monday
created, unprovided representative ship, a graphic to use during the business meeting, quoting from a text messages from the from a lawmaker to Mr Meadows, the graphic red quote.
you're a six point? Twenty one vice president might pence as president of the Senate should call out
all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional,
no electoral votes at consumer
as no electoral votes at all in the graphic the period at
and that sentence was added inadvertently. Disliked committee is responsible for and regrets the error. The error. Sorry, I don't believe that the committee cut off half of a sentence
and paragraphs of further information then added a period and change the format. So it appeared to be a whole message. The federalist first reported the full
it was a short summary of a legal briefing. Jordan forwarded from lawyer Joseph Schmidt's tomatoes on January fifth
meaning that a law makers did not write the message at all. The committee spokesmen provided the entire paragraph in the interests of transparency,
on January six? Twenty one vice president, might pass as part of this presidency to set. It should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional, as no election
votes at all, in accordance with guidance from founding Father Alexander Hammer
and judicial precedence, Schmidt's wrote, Smite, Schmidt's original text, read, no legislative act, wrote Alexander
Milton in Federalist, no set number. Seventy eight, contrary to the constitution, can be valid. The court and Hubbard V Low reinforced this truth,
that an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all. At all, is a pie
position no longer so open to discussion- appeal, dismissed
following this rationale and unconscious too
We appointed elector like an unconstitutional and acted statute, is no elector at all. People familiar
Jordan said they were suspicious of the messages because the representative tends to text with one or two words rather than paragraphs earlier this,
in the January six. Many vice chairman Chairman Chairwoman List Cheney prevented samples of tackling judges from
tromp allies imploring then present to respond the capital right as it was unfolding,
has thing, is they smear, they smeared Lord Ingram, and they said that she was telling tromp to end this respected
while simultaneously claiming antivirus behind it. Lord Ingram, as a series of tweets where she's like this is bad. We must condemn this. It must not be allowed so
Yeah there were concerns that anti for was there because their one, what there was one guy, was aunt. If I was there, I don't think, there's a coordinated effort by anti fraud, but sure maybe many of
Europe, these these pundits whatever got that wrong and exert an exaggerated all that by all means criticise them. If that's the case, but telling me that trumps,
inner circle and high profile. Conservatives opposed the riot and we're calling on trumped up to condemn it.
Does not sound like an insurrection to me. Doesn't so they debunk their own narrative, but let's just be real. They are going to. I think they're going to indict him. They were going to do whatever it takes to stop trump. Two thousand and twenty four
Rick reports Trump in inundate with over a dozen lawsuits. They want to drain his resources. Newsweek reports.
Ex President Donald Trump former lawyer, Michael Colonies, suing his one time
claiming retaliatory imprisonment over his return to federal prison in team colored, allegedly the cook covered a lead.
The decision to return into prison was in retaliation for writing a memoir that was strongly critical of the former president is also seeking damp
as for extreme physical and emotional harm and violation of his first amendment rights.
Loss. It is just the latest legal action taken against Trump who was now dealing with more than a dozen cases
the addition to investigations that could result in further lawsuits
here is a summary of the lost against him capital right lawsuits, New York investigations, Mary Trump Fraud, suit
E Carol, defamation suit, miss
of inauguration funds, Georgia, election interference, anonymous,
class action and w C p, a legit, assaulted, Trump Tower, Westchester Golf course: incitement on January six and trumps own lawsuits. No, I think it's fair to say that Trump himself is certainly filing lawsuits, but all of these
for four, wherever they are not going to read it to every single one. They show that Trump is gonna, be bogged down by as much as they can
publicans are standing by truck for twenty four Republicans. Absolutely one and Democrats for the most part want bite
Surprisingly, only around sixty percent of Democrats want Biden, which is the majority but
his kind of sad that Joe Biden can muster up any more support than that. We must think, but sting bug removed the hell reports
Republicans are standing by former President Trump for a twenty twenty four presidential run. While most Democrats want President Biden to run again, the pole found sixty percent of Democrats want button to run for real
while sixty nine percent of Republicans want trumpeting another shot at the presidency, and I will also
point that out trumps only get
sixty nine percent of Republicans in this pole. It's actually really surprising to me, but it
to a certain degree, not really look. Tromp was not establishment. Ok,.
tromp was anti establishment. He challenged the machine and laudable respected, and for that he was the avatar of the populist rage, but now people are
it santas their sing, a new opportunity- and maybe maybe that's the right call now, of course, I believe,
I'd in does run again because most want em to end trump does run again because most want em too well.
They'll run, I dont think biting could be Trump again. I really dont in its remarkable
to me that there are so many people unwilling to accept that Trump could lose. That's what's crazy to me. We ve had we ve. Had many people
to us and say there's no way that you know Joe Biden got eighty one million votes deep answer to me and I was like: why do you think that for a year locked in their homes not being able to go and see the movies having no no social life, no sports, the only sport they had was politics
so yeah? I think they went out and they voted and they voted against tromp, because they're playing team sports. I think that worked very well, for the Democrats will
happen again this time around now. The reason I think that's the case is that the economy is ensured.
both have Ghana stand was a disaster. Ukraine's it has asked, or China is a disaster, southern boy
is a disaster. Joe Biden.
backpedaled on Monday was promises particular the progressives? I don't think I don't think people are going to accept another Joe Biden presidency so already, but talking about swapping him out, but here's the best part we have this from defiant elves on Twitter, Joe Biden tweets
Two hundred and twenty thousand deaths- if you hear nothing else, I say tonight here this. Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain president of the United States, and then they have a tweet from axioms. Just in U S, Kova death toll tops eight hundred thousand. I am pretty sure that some, the majority of covert deaths are under Biden at this
because last year was three hundred fifty k and this year its now like four hundred and fifty. So I think that's that's Biden, I'm not gonna blame bite and for the pandemic, but I think his he's he's failing in terms of leadership in this capacity,
As far as I can tell with, what's going on, people are not going to look at Joe Biden and say this worked out really well for us no they're gonna say this worked out very poorly for us and we need change. We need something else. Newsweek says over half of american
so they don't want to see Trump or Biden, Runagate run again and twenty twenty four. Now short, if you look at those other poles, new Democrats want trunk to run. Most of us do Democrats one bite into run- Mozart, yes, and then, when you take everyone,
I'll sensation, either of them either of them run most them say no, no! That's important news reports. The pole, which, which was conducted by echelon insights, found that fifty five percent of respondents dont want Trump to seek the presidency that year and fifty four percent of the same forbidden.
asked about Trump again: thirty, nine percent of respondents. If they were in favour. Thirty four said they like to see Biden run again in twenty four
were White House per Secretary General Jackie was asked about buttons plan to run for a second term. That's his intention
he would be. How would we be eighty six when he got out of office in a second,
That is how it will be eighty six yeah gazette right man while he's bad enough.
there's no way bite is going to call second term while Tromp as yet to officially announced
The White House, yes adjusted plans to do so on numerous occasions on numerous occasions. If you love the country, you have no choice. The former president said in April Trump
Fox Business NEWS, Maria Barter Romo, that he is one hundred percent. Can
bring another run for the presidency, adding that
He will be very successful. I think so too. I think so too, but I am not entirely sure. Sixty four
percent said they were opposed to bide in running on twenty nine percent were in favour. Fifty eight said they don't want trumped to run again. Thirty six percent said the opposite from Florida: politics dotcom, let's see at sea,
RON. Dissent dominates another twenty twenty four June primary Pull Sands Donald Trump dissent, as is his chance, he might run
I think I think you will. I am entirely sure I think he will- and I think he'll be in the primary
and it will show robust primary and I think Trump will still win. The primary trump will go on to run and I think Trump as a really good chance of winning, but you gotta
nice man, you can't under underestimate your opponents were several years out and so much could change so
naturally, now put it this way, I'm not
really sure that Trump could win again.
I personally lean towards that, but I am not saying that the fifty percent chance or greater- I honestly, don't know Florida says
Gunnar dissenters, continues to excite potential republican voters that twenty four presidential primary, especially if trumped up her monygham, that's one taken
from actual insights. They say those
they per cent of the rich, the Republicans say they would probably or definitely vote for Trump. If he runs again, descent has continued to build momentum. Should the former president not jumpin dissent, as is the choice of thirty percent of those surveyed? For a lot of reasons, I, like this,
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understand my friends. I am not a conservative, no matter how many and no matter what these leftist, so you know, wash recently did a video where I literally say says that he is reacting to a video of mine. Where I say systemic racism is real and we should abolish the police and he goes Temple is a conservative and, of course, that means he's racist and its dislike
these people actually have ideas. Now, with respect of all, she was actually defending me quite a bit in relation to that I'll, just put it here and on Twitter. You can see that I'm not that I'm trending K in what happens, but its remarkable to me. That's all:
world we live in. No, my friends, we are moderate. We are fairly moderate, libertarian types, many of us,
Celine Centre right to many of us, lean centre left, my politics are alive
but centre left like I'm, in favour, staunchly in favour of universal basic Healthcare basic Healthcare. That means we would not abolish pray.
healthcare and it would mean a lot of procedures would require private health insurance, but it means that some basic stuff would be generally covered like you could walk in and you know gotta worry about a broken hand or getting the flu or something like that insulin. We don't want people dying in the strait of that stuff. So, madam I say we cover a lot of it, but when you're dealing with advanced cancers and stuff, you need private, supplemental insurance. If you're dealing with catastrophic injuries that require multiple surgeries and stuff, you're gonna need private insurance, but that has very clearly a modern centre. Left position
the difference. I suppose we don't believe in the mainstream narratives. Let me show you what pure rhetoric has to say about where we are beyond red. Verses blew the political type apology. I do love that people who don't actually watch any of my content. Dont understand that we frequently dive into the new ones of the political atmosphere.
we talk about the difference between the progressive leftists, the establishment, liberals and outsiders and dirt bags, and all that stuff, the dirt bag left. The progressive left, the populist right, the establishment right, the christian right. We talk about it. All the time left us love guns.
we liberals down, but they side together on many things. What is really interesting visit article from Pew breaking down these different groups, and let me read something to you: they say: Progressive, laughed and establishment. Liberals progressive left, the only majority White now
Hispanic group of Democrats have very liberal views in virtually every issue and support. Far reaching
changes to address racial injustice and expand the social safety net established.
Liberals, while just as liberals it as many are far less persuaded of the need for sweeping change. They gonna say there.
democrat mainstays and the outsider left, but there's two groups. I find very interesting the ambivalent right there
youngest and least conservative GNP aligned group hold conservative.
Here is where the size of government, the economics
the main issues of race and gender, but they are the only group on the political right in which majorities,
for legal abortion and say marijuana, should be legal for recreation on medical use. They are also
linked in their views about Donald Trump, while the majority voted from twenty twenty most.
They prefer. He not continue to be a major political figure. It's really fascinating. So much of that dies align with my positions and may be yours.
However, I dont know where I end up on this list, because
I actually I'm not conservative, on issues of racial injustice, I'm just not far left- is why I have often said I'm not a classical liberal. The way that is economic, traditional live, I'm sorry, I'm a social, liberal, social liberals. I think you
Good that we were like hey, you shouldn't allowed be allowed to do. Read London block busting. I think it's good. We are like hey. We shouldn't have policies based on race. Those were that's what civil rights fought for, I'm the kind of person that looks at California, the progressive they wanted to. They tried to repeal their civil.
rights provision in their constitution. I said that is wrong. We should say you can't discriminate on the basis of race. I think it is good that businesses must up must provide public accommodation to everyone, and I can't make arbitrary decisions about who they boot from their business. It's
because I would say Eileen area
in the libertarian spectrum away from govern intervention, but I also think that, while the government is mostly bad there's a lot of it, that's that's good.
And, if we're all in a if we live in, is in a community and we are all paying taxes that go towards infrastructure. You should not be able to not do that to deny certain people access to the infrastructure they contribute to,
of course, more libertarian right. Individuals would probably say they should be forced to tax. This
why- and I certainly understand and agree with that- absolutely I think we have everything has to be voluntary, that's white, libertarian and
I'm not saying that people should be forced to do these things, I'm saying quite the opposite. I'm saying that's the ideal to strive for and will have to work really
the convince people, and if we don't well on Euro Arab too bad, I guess we just what we won't succeed in that regard, but that's a more left position. I suppose
where does everyone fall? While I you this stress side, liners are people who are typically not.
Politically engaged
what I'm really interested in is the is the outsider left, and I think we were right here. The outsider left the youngest typology group vote.
Overwhelmingly for Joe Biden a year ago and are very
liberal and most of their views, but they are deeply frustrate with a political system, including the Democratic Party and its leaders. I like the outside, are left.
They just voted for Joe Biden though, and they basically propped up the crony Goldman Sachs Establishment, which is mine blowing to me. So I don't know exactly where I would ve.
I assume many of you might fall in the stress, sign liners or ambivalent right category, but I think it's missing a large group of people, the ambivalent right, I think, basically describes what our group is, but it's weird that they would say it's the ambivalent right only because their g o p Aligned thinks angel, p aligned. His verdict will be completely honest. I dont, like the Republican Party at all, but I like, ran Paul. I couple people there are some there their money
While I support I support more Democrats last I'm around an ant, then republicans- and I don't know I don't- I don't know where we fall in terms of our political views. What does it mean to be right wing that you
just talking about Republican versus Democrat. Well, I don't like most public policies, but I dont like welcome. I dont, like authoritarianism, so voting Republican is based.
About liking the GEO penal I'd, I despise them for the most part, but I dont want critical race practices.
Walls or endeavour meant I dont want racism, so isn't that a left
position on race. I'll tell you this.
Opposing racism is a right wing position and so be it cause
left in my opinion has become overtly overtly racist,
You need only look at that member segment from TIM Casta com with with the rugged rugged to see
that I believe he is an unrepentant racist, I'm not trying to come down on the guy because we hugged about, but I will give my opinion on what I think of of his ideas that he would say
Your! U experiencing. Racism is completely irrelevant and he would laugh at it. He claims.
See doesn't like racism, but he would laugh in the face of people saying my family was attacked by white supremacist. I don't care and I don't believe you so what too bad that's life is.
Am I respond to them? I agree with you. I grew to tell all the people who complain about racism there being snowflakes and to grow up. That's just life, but I say this: if that's what left is? It makes no sense,
as the problem my face, I have always opposed people being judged based on their race. Always I have always opposed massive corporations seizing the commons that used to be the left. Today I find myself to the left of of say Wash and Hassan people who claimed to be leftists
Let me just tell you nothing makes sense dynamo who had a voting for outsiders, Dave Smith, but here's the real challenge for us. The lesser of two evils idea, if run,
Santa says we're gonna get rid of the lock downs and we're gonna end critical rice, praxis and our institutions. We have to support it right, but there's a whore
for me, too, depends on what has other policies aren't if its policies are bad, traditional Republican, Jus Beach? You want to go to war on the plain that game, not at all, so
can't tell you for sure where were added, I can tell you that
There is no none of us. Politics makes any sense. There is theirs. Liberals, there's conservatives there's progressives, and there is no popular,
right wingers and then there's whatever. We are a mix of a bunch of different types, people who agree people who disagree arrow on Roman. I really don't you then. I think
there's two tribes: that's it those who believe the establishment, narrative and those who don't that's it
so I can sit here all day and be like man. Systemic racism is a problem. I did it doc
are about it. I know exactly how it functions and I can people.
Right saying I don't believe that exists. Yet we get along. Why? Because I actually fact check and that's it. The left doesn't want to do it. Did you say I know I know I know
its every debate. I've had, I guess, fastened enemy. You know and wash did that video defending me took for the most part, but
just out rights, as I am conservative and then
That is an improvement with all due respect to wash again he was he was defending me. I think I was respectable. I think you eat it at a job. I like him to watch the video he started off by call me far right when you came on the shelf too. Now just sat conservative we're making improvements guys, but I think what needs to happen. Internet have more of these conversations and I think the people who watch video
from wash need to actually watch our show yesterday when we wouldn't, when I was talking with our the rugged man, I said: systemic racism is real. Black people in this country have faces hammocks racism
and have it substantially worse than I ever will as a mixed race person and as a mixed race person. I find intersection eighty to make a good amount of sense in that I experience racism in a unique way, but I dont like the authoritarian application of these practices of this practice, and I don't like that they would tell white people at their struggle, doesn't matter simply because their white that's wrong to me, because it's just more racism, even as a rule that last point, but if we agree on seventy five percent of that, how do we move forward when you don't watch my videos when you don't watch my show and then decide at me
to impose a conservative. I want to solve problems and make people come together, but a lotta people don't. So how do we solve this? I don't know, but I will end by saying: there's dirty games of foot. They seek to crush Donald Trump. They dont want on the running
I don't know man is a tough times bipolar result,
is bad, so I leave it to you guys to decide
want to be in charge of anybody. I want to be the arbiter of truth and morality for anybody ever I'll. Tell you what I
in what I believe, and I
wrong enough. You decide you should choose what right for you I'll leave their necks segments, comin up two nights at eight p m over it. You did accomplished him cast iron out. Thanks, rang it up and I'll see. You owe them.
This is becoming a really hard subject to talk about, because it's the same story. It's the same thing and that's really bad story is a.
Jordan. Three Marines have been booted for refusing covered
accede as services begin discharges up to thirty thousand service members romanian vaccinated and could face the same fate.
I don't understand how we're supposed to be dealing with the crisis where the news changes every day, and we have no idea what we're supposed to think or no doctor Fouch comes out
says you know one thing one day, one thing the next day we were told
some news reports that the vaccine, we, if you have three shots, will will stop.
Now hours were hearing and actually won't, but you still get it anyway
How is a service, a marine,
Airbus, man or woman or
reigns in this instance. How are they supposed to know what to do?
and the reason why says is becoming a really difficult for me to talk about- is that it just keeps happening. We know there are problems. We know the.
that the science we have, the data hasn't been com,
lately released. That's Pfizer wants to hold onto this data for decades like a like several generations actually, but everyone keeps changing
what worries me is this is the death by a thousand cuts. I guess
you know I find myself looking at these stories just being like. I don't want to do a segment on this. I don't I dont care, it's the same thing. You ve heard it before you'll, hear it again, and does that mean that
This is the new normal yeah and that's the problem,
With that, that's, why ultimately decided that we should talk about this or the very least I should do a segment on an even though,
Mind numbingly, boring to hear this stuff keeps happening. I just its exhausting. You know it physic nothing's, changing it feels like it's. Not news is not relevant
but it is extremely relevant, especially as we learn how to thirty thousand service members remain non vaccinated and could face the same fate. I want to come back to this story because I think that one of the most important- but I think this very important context- to explain perhaps
the attitudes of those who are not getting the vaccine, who are in
military or otherwise. This story we got just the other day
they see panel to consider limits on use of Jane J vaccine due to blood clots issues in some recipients. Now I wanna, I wanna make sure I can break down some of the false front.
that's been going around outside of United in on some websites, some some
we have their recommending people not use it. Well, the recommending a over it
That the CDC wants people to use to get the Madonna adviser vaccine because
there is a chance that the danger that scene can cause blood clots on this very important context is very different from some of the art
No, I just don't do it not another. Didn't say that didn't say that, but this story is important, because many people have complained about the blood clots fierce it's been recur.
trend on that. The Donald Trump forms over patriots dot when they call it the clock shot.
And now we have months later this.
DC saying these are
issues that were concerned about, so we're gonna recommend views of the other vaccines. Now, if you were to come out and make that joke or say it says, you know called the clock, I don't ever you'd be banned
seconds how about now. I am not saying that I always you know that they call me to talk to your doktor pool was a lot of things. I think
the people about isolated, deleted, a tweet I felt like it sounded too much like financial advice.
and I'm like I just don't- want to be responsible for anybody man and ought to be in charge of anybody. I want anybody come at me saying you told me to do this. Man there's a few
areas where I feel like I'm an expert enough in uncertain things where I can give advice and that's just typically freedom and that's why I often say that not science, not finance, but freedom, stand up. Fear rights before you,
and I got no problem saying that and I got no problem
people you can lose everything you really well
these Marines are standing up for what they believe in and they're gonna be discharged. It'll be interesting,
Some people are saying they should be honourably discharge. I think it's an administrative discharged or medical one. So it's not like it's all bad, but let me give you this context first, because I think for the
we are familiar with. What's going on this might help. You understand why there are people who say they are not going to get the vaccine from TIM cast outcome.
Advisory panel. The centre for these centres for disease control, is get others.
he's considering new restrictions or war.
Things on using the covered vaccine from Johnson and Johnson over fears. The injections can cause blood clots issues in a small number of recipients, quote
those vaccine has been linked to a rare and severe type of blood clots, which halted its use for about ten days in April, as federal health officials looked more closely at six women who experienced the
I M the only known cases among the more than seven million people receive the vaccine in the: U S at that time were
the women died. The pause was lifted after an extension.
Safety review, the determined the vaccines benefit outweighed the risks. This is very important for people to understand. This is not
a secret. The CDC has said this over and over again, they understand vaccines can have adverse events, adverse reactions. Sometimes people die
However, the way the CDC has explained to me, like I actually set down several years ago about Zika with one of the highest ranking.
the CDC and we talked about these viruses and vaccines in the end
We basically said was a lot of people, dont trust vaccines because of the adverse events because of the adverse reactions possibilities. However, they don't deny that's a reality. What they're saying is if the virus will kill, say a hundred thousand people, but the vaccine will kill a thousand people, then they think the vaccine is why?
it is you? U utilitarian viewpoint, but you'll end up with a lot of people were more individual s. Store have a more de intelligible view and feel that you cannot force you. You can't take this action against an endeavour,
and the individual's right to choose, and therein lie
a very real real issue. A lot of peace,
who view that that they look at the covered mortality rate and they say it's just not worth it.
worth taking any risks. No matter what you do not know
because the CDC says the whisks, the arms- are the risks. The benefits outweigh
asks, doesn't mean an individual has to make that same choice. Now I can't tell on the doktor you have different risk. Factors is why I oppose the mandates. Are too big reasons one, I believe in freedom for the.
Visual and I also believe that someone who sixty five and overweight as a very different set of risk factors than someone who's, thirty five and fit
Now I will tell you this: I jenny
We believe had I not receive monoclonal anti bodies. I would have been in the icy you and I'm not exaggerating, that's how bad this was. So I think you should take it seriously. That's what Joe
me to do, do an attendant and the media likes to make fun of him, because what he tells me to do is not to ignore. It may not do not don't sit around go talk to somebody find somebody, who's gonna, get you the trim and here's what he did, and I had a doctor out here out here say this to the protocol we want to use, and I'm eternally grateful for all of that. I was in bad shape. I think I'll take this one seriously, not everybody's in bad shape. Some people don't even notice something look at the sniffles banal me
and don't ask me- I don't know why some people have said it could be because our asian people of more aid to receptors- I know I'm not one hundred percent asian or whatever, but
that was a factor and why I got really sick and that's again, why I say you are not me, you do not,
same genetic says me the same hasty receptors, none of that stuff. So I'm not going to tell you what you should be doing and what people need to understand about these mandates. You know four Marines or otherwise is that you as a collective force as the public as the people as though
voting. You are enforcing a medication on other people, it's the government, we say the government, but must be real. The government is comprised of foreign by the people now be
first to say elites, are in control of and have been for some long time, but there were people voting for this putting their their thereby voting power, their merit monetary power, their political power behind forcing other people to get a medical treatment. That might not be right for them so
thank. You gotta make the decision for yourself, like these Marines ABC News reports, one hundred and three Marines have been discharged for refusing to take the covered vaccine. The marine corps said Thursday, as me
Terry services have begun to discharge a pool of possibly as many as thirty thousand active duty service members who still refuse to be vaccinated even after multiple
opportunities to do so past vaccination deadlines. In late August, defamatory, Lloyd, Austin ordered mandatory covered vaccines for all. U S: military personnel. Shortly after
Austin made the covered vaccine mentor. The military services quickly set up its own deadline, dates and worn service members. They could face discharge unless they were vaccinated, which is in line with the Pentagon. Stance that choose
to remain on vaccinated is a violation of a lawful order from Austin. I believe that's not correct,
There was a court ruling that sad. You can't mandate a vaccine that is not FDA approved there. You go
I dont believe any of the other vaccines are FDA approved. I know that's Pfizer, Bio and tax community vaccine has been approved by. I dont believe the court's view that, as I believe they do viewed as legally distinct, there's one,
I just tell you man, you got it, you got to talk to medical professional, but you also need to make sure you know what you're you're you're you're you're you're, looking into what you're asking about. So the big controversy was that, when Pfizer the Pfizer Bio,
like vaccine right now is under emergencies authorization. They got an FDA approval for their brand version community, which they say is functionally identical. However, there are differences, and because of that I think, are the pulled up satisfactory this one. There was a judge who said you can't mandate. What's what's you know not FDA approve,
this is, I suppose, one of the issues here they say, while the percentage of vaccinated active duty personnel and each services, ninety five percent are higher, the number of and vaccinated personnel is close to thirty thousand earlier this week the air force became the first to make public
but it had followed through on the warning announcing that twenty seven airman had received administrative discharges according to the latest numbers provided by the AIR Force Navy seventh
and threatened sixty five airman, five thousand foreigners have you: two sailors are on vaccination, either refusing the vaccine out right,
or awaiting the processing of requests for administrative, medical or religious exemptions. I will say this
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and so they are out of. The way was told to me is that in basic training that view like walk up and then they give you a shot and and they wipe you down and then use walk for together in some gives you a shot and just give you all these different vaccines. Probably like
low fever- it's probably like you know, typhus tetanus, booster, all that stuff. However, in response to that, people pointed out that you can't mandate something that is not FDA, approved even the military,
so. This is where things get interesting, and I have enough that's the case.
And we're in a really dangerous position here, because people in our being discharged over this their lives are being changed and, more importantly,
media outlets in I'll ever they all of this? There just reporting to our adversaries, that are our armed forces being crippled by people who are unwilling to undergo the vaccine and who are living.
Not to mention the Marine Corps said Thursday. Ninety five percent of its active duty force of a hundred eighty two thousand Marines have receive at least one vaccine
shot the lowest percentage among the military services. The marine corps is approved, one thousand seven medical,
this right of exemptions and is still processing, two thousand eight hundred and sixty three of the three thousand one hundred and forty four requests
military. Military personnel Serena in the United States had already been required, receive twelve vaccines, measles, polio, aunt, the anthrax chicken pox flew in order to serve service,
signed overseas or courtesy were required to receive up to five others like, though,
four yellow fever or encephalitis, depending on the global region they were assigned to, or they are not.
While the army announced Thursday, the nearly nine
the eight percent of its warrants. Only eight thousand active duty soldiers had been vaccinated. That means close to ten thousand soldiers are not
Army said three thousand eight hundred and eight hundred and sixty four soldiers have refused the vaccine outright, while an additional six thousand two hundred and sixty three are awaiting the processing of their record
for an exemption. The majority of service members who remain on vaccinated have sought religious exemptions, but none of the service services have yet to approve an exemption on religious grounds,
but if that's all authorization bill passed by Congress this week, guarantees at service members who are kicked out of the building
for refusing the vaccine will receive either in
Will the honourable discharge or a general discharge under honourable conditions? Hey good, that's on them! That's it! That's on the the armed forces men. So so let me explain something.
and must have yet they probably understand this proposed. Maybe don't imagine you're in the armed forces or
That's it you're a nurse. Let's say you are to the federal government: what's he worked at an airline and they said you must be vaccinated?
and so you went to get your vaccine and they sat Johnson and Johnson. One undoubtedly said: okay and you got that vaccine there's two things to come
There are now that I think are worrying one.
They're saying the efficacy of the vaccines has waned. Naomi booster shots that if you got the Johnson and Johnson vaccine to me,
later Unita booster shot. So many
is people who got vaccinated back in January. Are they still cleared at? What point are they gonna be like? Doesn't count me more now more,
Only the cdc is a concern
advisers will consider limits on the vaccine over blood clots issues. So you look it's a fact that there's no long term studies on these vaccines that is not to disparage them as vaccines. It's just a point out,
their knew they were. They were produced very quickly under operation warp, speed and people have concerns about that and now
about a year later, since we started seeing these vaccines or allow just about it.
We are now learning that the definition of fully vaccinate is gonna. Change were learning that they're gonna there they ve issued some advisory iccat. The some concerns about the job.
Johnson vaccine that they're saying you should mix and match boosters into all other stuff. So how is that going to build com?
and someone who said I'm gonna, wait and see, and now they see this on a normal. But I can tell you more. Companies are now abandoned this from seal of approval from NBC News, growing number of companies suspend vaccine mandate, including hospitals and Amtrak.
sing a labour shortage. Some healthcare systems in federal contractors are temporarily lifting the requirements. One physician called the move.
Sir, I'm sure he did but Amtrak was faced with very serious disruptions of service and they said if we implement this,
we shut down train services, we delay trains and everything is just disrupted, so can do it
he says a growing number of what we read that in the end in the headlines, the move
the court rulings in recent weeks at pause requirements from the Bite administration for Healthcare workers and federal contractors
EL. The decision about whether to require vaccination remained up to individual employers, the mandates are being,
suspended at a precarious time. Many employers face labour shortages. Well, covered cases are searching and the highly mutated. All Micron variant is spreading the highly mutated, oh heavens,
Sufficient staffing has been hard to maintain in hospitals which were already contending with dirt
of nurses and other workers for before the pandemic burn out has further exacerbated shortages.
one of the things that we ve seen in the healthcare industry was, that's, nurses were quitting not because of the mandates, but because they said we could not have
What I see use are filling up as interesting to me. I
or if the mortality rate would be much much higher for covert. If we did not have these icy you beds and honestly, I think the answer is yes. I think we underestimate how technology can in change our view.
The disease itself. One of things people to understand is that crime people say
that's out of violent crime is going down because murders are way down and what
We need to realise that technically murders are way down, but it's because of cell phones
attempted murders. I believe I can get him that depends on where you are, but attempted murders are our high and violent
I'm has surged in the past year now I think overall, on crime has been decreasing, but people who understand the reason the stats show a rapid decrease is because, if someone gets attacked, someone else picks up their phone there. Sulphur reckoner pocket and calls nine one one before the advent of,
Phones, this wasn't the case and if you were seriously injured in a fight or a mugging or something you might die, you are more likely to see what happens. Is people's lives get saved because of cellphones no joke because of cell phones and then people?
the crimes that today, while crime is down, it's like they might actually be just as dangerous as though has been, but now you have a cell phone to help you to get up the the paramount
there in time, if you're bleeding out or something, then the same thing is true for
for fur any other illness. We have excellent hospitals and I see you bets so people are getting sick with this disease.
and then they go to the hospital. This is why we wanted to slow. The spread of the problem here is across the board. None of that,
necessarily matters. When you look at Florida floor. Does
Cases are the lowest in the country and they were very, very different protocol for this. So I certainly think that
locking down everybody over fear of overloading Nicias. I I
stand that for sure, but I think people should be looking to what Florida has been doing because they didn't locked down.
And it may actually be the lock down, are making things worse, can't believe we're still talking about this and has been almost two years:
you know when we every night when we're getting ready for TIM, Castile, Ral, Luke you'll come up, have a bunch of stories, another bunch of stories
been avoiding a lot of covert stuff, because it's it's redundant disrepair
I've been there done that heard it before. Oh that's happening again, and so our protests riots erupting
Europe in Australia, unlike Bro, we we ve covered, though those,
there is so much like what more do we say about it and the other
You're two's Alec Baldwin, Bialik Alec Baldwin story,
sure that has fallen on like we have talked about that story. So much.
but I just getting tiring talking about the same thing, but I will tell you two things:
The reason why we we were leading yesterday with the olive Baldwin stores that thought was really important were serving a search warrant on this. When I on Irish who'd, you need to understand as their date they my view of the whole Alec Baldwin thing is that they're doing that they did a crisis management, manipulated news, try an obvious gates and
and strike the story down and now their slow, rolling out boarding, tidbits and was happening is eventually
blogger to say I don't care about this anymore and then, once that happens, they forget about it out. Baldwin walks
The same thing is true for what's going on with CDC and other stuff, we can't let news burn out happened to us. We can't let these stories become normal,
We have to make sure we are saying this is not what we accept. I think you when you're, so
king advice for how your life is going to be, should look to the experts in those fields. For me, I find it an innate in medical, but is political
I can tell you you got a stand up. You gotta vote your local elections. You got vote in the primaries. You gotta make sure that
or ignoring the haters, telling you not to vote as a possible. You just go and vote because it does matter. That's politics. I can tell you advice on that. I can tell you to stand up for yourself and that may put you at great risk, but you need to recognise that too, that you have to have that responsibility.
But man I can tell. I can tell you that when it comes to these mandates, we need to make sure that we're not gonna let the new normal take over, especially at a time when we're dealing with this crisis in Ukraine, they would actually consider discharging Marines and up to thirty thousand other service members. You know what then
United States deserves the collapse, because if we're gonna lose our armed forces to a great degree, if we're gonna have an economic crisis, if people to be fired from their jobs, this country is full.
Apart, you know I don't know how to say in a lot of people, don't like to hear it, but with the the inflation the wholesale pricing to index at ten percent, like I mentioned before MAX Keyser saying he believes inflation or on fifteen, the consumer price index is nearly what seven seven per cent of the over last year do,
Your dollars value is collapsing, people are being boded from the military cities. Are our locking down like crazy New York City just did just rapidly escalated, their backs mandates. Ninety two shots: now: kids, gotta have em, there's videos of people's data businesses, clipboards, taking your ideas, people
letting this happen, and we know where this goes. Those that do not remember
three are doomed to repeat it. We have seen this before and I love it. When we talk about
Weimar, Germany or the civil war. People say that will never happen because they look at history
and they see the worst of the worst it'll realize that it took escalation to get that point now, maybe we don't see the actual conflict in our lifetimes, twenty twenty one with a pandemic, no great world war just yet, but we are, as they say in the fourth turning their will. People seem to think that when it comes to
three you wake up one day and there's a shot heard round the world that some one made that move that everyone recognise was the start of some conflict, but that's never been the case
you know that article I was reading from Charles Emma blow. He references is due.
Eleven years for the civil war who defended slavery and said people view him as the as the father of
fashion, even though you know what he's he died alive, I think he died eleven years before the civil war. What is happening today will influence tomorrow. What is it? What happened yesterday will influence to day. This is a fact.
And if you think that, where we are now as we build the steps towards you know the edge of the cliff, where were we may jump off, we may avert it. What we are seeing throughout this country is wise is bringing us in one direction.
That's calamity, but maybe we maybe a won't, maybe will avert it. Somehow I just don't see it. I do not see. Did you guys watch the TIM Cast, our Russia last night? Did you watch the members? Only podcast things got hot.
You know. I think we had already. The rugged men on, I think, is a really good did. I do and I think
God we just we didn't. We have extreme disagreements on politics to the point where
there's no reconciliation and it's a fact. We hugged it out. I apologize. I felt bad for raising my voice and what I did
and and he got heated and he apologized, to which I should have done that and I
full responsibility for raising my voice in getting mad first and then he stood up, and I don't even want to talk about too much. But the point I want to make here is:
When we sit down, I said now, someone like him,
and I say here's my view and here's, the problem is, as I dont care, he says you
are doing bad to what I believe and that it
result in us just getting to that point. If we can agree to this-
gray if we can still hung it out. But in the end.
There's no ideological reconciliation, that's what worries me I'll give a little optimism there, though I
When the members I meant, I started, I raised my voice and he said don't yell at me, and he says he will
not the guy who's going to sit there and take it, and I said yeah you are you that guy and he got mad about it. I shouldn't have said that and all these people on Twitter man there their they're putting up the clips and what's happening all stuff and I'm like yeah. It happened. Yes, I uploaded it because I feel like I don't I don't
the stuff, but a lot of people aren't showing the part where I said, I'm sorry for raising my voice, man and he said no, I'm sorry too, and then we hugged for a good fifteen, slash twenty two
and I said I just I just don't think racism is goin away. I dont want
you have any, but I want a fight with anybody, but I felt like after that conversation I felt very pessimistic with all due respect to rugged man, because we know we we hugged it out. If he's gonna tell me that he does
I care about my experiences and the suffering that my family's been through, and my family literally fought the civil rights era, because he cares more about one race. Unlike
Then racism is persistent and animal stop. We need to pay attention to that stuff.
And a remit. Maybe I'll do bigger segment on all that stuff, but I'll leave their concerns about the vaccine and where we're headed
What's coming up at one p m on this channel, thanks rang out and I'll see you all them.
Last night. We had a guest, a very famous legendary wrapper array, the rugged men and, I think, that's probably the best,
Wait to explaining what a lot of really top stars. He himself has had songs everywhere and notably he had a song in Tony Hawks underground, which I am familiar with and I'll look.
ASCII who's on the show said we should definitely get em and we did and made a very can
anxious, shall very, very deep debate. People rise in there,
places lotta arguing it was. It was off the rails. Well that that was on Youtube. The
so it is now on rumble and you know it on all podcast platforms. Basically, we put it never is no longer on Youtube, but there's a clip going viral
I now trending on Twitter. I think us running it like number. Thirteen last I checked you're not really
how to get into all the stuff. But I think I really should talk about what happened and why
pool and are either rugged man and everyone's talking about us, because I'm gonna feel like
it's early in the morning when I'm recording this recording is almost first thing and I have a feeling
that is the day goes on people gonna be hungry for news and they're gonna starts making clips about this they're. Gonna start. Writing articles about this one
all dress it outright and I'll make one thing clear. First, let me explain: lotta people are showing Nicolet. We have a clip here from machine. Had this clip is not from a youtube. Video is from TIM cast dot com where we have the TIM cast. Irish members podcast it's about a half an hour Monday through Thursday
We do it after the show and its typically, more more etc are not family friendly version. I don't think our opinions are all that different. We just talk what things at aren't as family friendly on that show on
show I got into a very heated argument. I raised my voice. I yelled at yet at
re talking over and he said: don't do that things got heated. He stood up slapped the MIKE and a lot of people. It's crazy to me that people think they're there that their plane it up way more than I think they should all be honest. It was what it was that it was the most intense conversation with ever had.
And cast IRA what the members shown on Irish itself. We are arguing with this guy about critical race theory woke NASA
now said, all that our brain all that stuff and his view,
was that we were in a racist, sore defending white people and we were trying to diminish the
struggle and all that stuff- and I completely disagree and from
by my side of the argument and we'll get into a lotta what's going on for a second was that we
We absolutely recognise the struggles of the black community law
Romania, the asian community of of the white community, and recognise their different, and it's funny, because that's intersection reality, or at least a certain to a certain degree.
And so I explained to him many times and an announcement again I'll get a job of deeper conduct on stuff. That's why dont completely disagree with everything they say. I just disagree with the authoritarianism and the collectivism, but let me say one thing, first and foremost: ok to address the controversy over those at a familiar are the rugged man is ache.
Dude he's a good dude and he is a legend that does not even a lot of people are posing things like who is even this guy Bro, who is even this guy? Who go? Look him up man
the recommend I am. I am honoured that he came on my show in the first place. I am honoured that he came in and have this conversation with us and I did not think for a second things had gotten out of control. People want to their people postings off being like this. Guy was acting to Philosophy Ebro, he shouldn't slap them might but YO. I shouldn't have raised my voice Adam and then insulted him. You know,
heated, but not for one moment that I think things were out of control. I just thought we got heated. There's people on the left being
I look at Tammy refuses to back down. I'm like, I didn't think there is anything to back down from. I lowered my voice. Why? Because I felt bad for raising it in the first place.
I wasn't scared that alright was going to walk over here and slap me or anything cuz. I think I raised a good dude. You get mad, sometimes only limit. Let me explain this to all the people who are clay.
That they believe array was got, we stood up and you
gonna lie and- and I was scared- he was an attack me or something or
people are saying that I was brave for not flinching or whenever, unlike usually does not understand at no point at no point during this that I feel that all
Ray was a threat to me or any one else. Why our I got mad. I got mad to our. I got up and slap
but I know he's a good dude. We were here
we hang out before the show we talk about this stuff people get heated, sometimes just because he
mad- and is any unease any slapped. The MIKE doesn't mean I thought,
like he was gonna hurt anybody. So there's no reason for,
get it for my chair or be like that. You are on get mad. Now I kind of felt like
yeah. I just insulted this guy and he's mad like that's, not cool, we're, not being productive. Doing this now be honest, I felt insulted too. That's why I got mad and that's why
you got mad, but I don't see why anyone like an old man. I think people want to hide this up and sensationalize it in May.
It seem like this is something bows grab. Economics
you guys. Who already is because I know that people don't know he is and a lot of people use that as a point of light,
to make a derogatory statement. You know people on the shower like who is
Scott! Even look! I know you guys know who I am, but when we
am. I was very outside look at us. He's worked with much with mob deep blue Tang called you wrap, notorious Biagi. He's got a song. Look at this
Tony Hawks underground. I know this song, so I I comments. Have a conversation always got a bunch of Antaeus
which meant anti media aunt- I you know, like a third, what to say
syrian videos,
I'll, tell you. I really do feel like right now. You can see temples regular. I just feel like
he's very much in the Woke establishment, narrative of things, so let me just simplify,
and they re going down a real quick gave you not to know what's going on and then only talk philosophy and ideas of what what what salt was all about. The quick us, though, the gist of the star
as are the rugged men came on the show we started by talking about Alec Baldwin. We started by talking about liberal surrounded by guns which
turned into him talking about car written us and he said your column.
euro and all this in that- and I was like no, we don't a lot of people. Do. I
I understand why they do. I don't agree because I dont like the conflict, but I dont know how you see
for the problems of United. Like look for three days. You are launching the conduct, you know they they bash a guy in the faces. A guy. I saw this
and unlike so, what do you think? You know what what would you duties? I wouldn't call seventeen year old kid out. No, my row, we disagree on these things and that's where things got really heated, I feel, like all ray, had a view of us based on a stereo type of
sore aunt. I woke- and this is very, very common among the woke left. They assume that TIM
our role is,
same show it where, where we have the same regurgitate stereotype, rightwing opinions when I literally we will give you an example. Tilbury described me coming. I said with a transgender Somalia, Thomas right. Here's an example of where we are my very much in the middle on these things. We don't just play right wing, narratives,
though I buy, I would say obviously whatever the left views itself as we are not in that Cultural camp
Leah Thomas. I said she followed all the rules, the transgender swimmer. No one spoke up about it. How am I supposed to get mad about people not speaking up when they went when these are the rules in the person's following all the rules? Like I'm not going to blame you, I mean
they. They they expect to come to the show and we're gonna be like how right now seen on sale these these things about him and I'm just like
I think there was a lot of mistakes, a lot of problems made, but I'm not gonna fall fault. The kid for running away from a fine than defending himself. He also then came out.
The Ahmed Aubrey case. His premise was basically that, because we viewed the individual case,
is, and these individuals and their rights individually we were putting down
managing the black struggle, we were racist. We're broke up and, unlike dude, I say, abolish the police all the time he was yet, but you don't mean it serious events of happening. While ok I'll tell you what is happening, but first, let me stress,
everybody shown that one click from last night, but they dont show the part where we apologise to each other and we hung out array
cool due to the legend we just got here and we both felt bad about it. We literally get up like a minute after that and we hug- and I apologise out I'm sigh from recent years- my voice to men- and I should have done that. I'm supposed to be this guy hosting the show I'm not supposed to be a hot had asserts Yelena do because it disagrees with me. If I invite somebody to my house, I have to give them respect, and that means they might say bad things to me, but there, the guest. That means I shouldn't be Screamin Adam.
I asked them to come. I take full responsibility for that now. I don't think it's ok that already got up and got mad and smack the micro whatever, but I think look there.
Two things that made me angry and I got to own up to getting angry yelling item and an insulting the guy. I take full responsibility, you know, and I think-
is a cool dude. I'm not gonna eat. We responded, respect him cast out alive
our outline last night. I have a lot of life stuff
not right now and brought that bullish energy to the show I have to work on that. I was wrong. I got emotional interacted like an idiot peace to Luke. We are changing our petulance. Do this guy's awesome disguise fantastic several times on the show he admitted he was wrong about things
men disrespect. Here's, what s happening where I end up getting Rhine getting mad and at how things breakdown, I feel, like all raise attitudes towards racism in its country, is exactly what it exemplified everything that
I do not like and fight against, and so here it was in my view, like sitting before me and I'm not sent us. We mean to disrespect the array as I've artists did what it was. Was that I'd say something like look. I do not believe I have ever had it worse than the black man black people in this country. I've never felt that way. I believe systemic racism exists and, for those are unfamiliar I'll, give you a heart example: block busting and red lining were,
access is that were occurring frequently up until the eighties. That means there are people in my their millennials, their people in my age group who are living in areas that are impoverished due to racist policies. To fact block busting was when they would go into white areas.
buy a house move in a black family or minority family, and then
scare, all of the white people into moving selling their
Is it a cheap price and then kicking out the black family?
and selling all the house at a high price, it was disgusting. It's illegal.
red lining is where, in the inshore cargo, the red line, they would literally drought areas, whether it be like that's where we're gonna put all of this group in this minority and they credit extreme racial segregation in that city.
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These may have been made illegal, but you need to understand that, if their stripping away the property value from black families and if their forcing them to live in depressed areas, there are people my age, who grew up in a part of the city because of those policies
That's where we agree- and I don't like that stuff and I want to solve that problem and that's what I was trying to expire
in two to array that when he says systemic crisis bounced off on like yes, let me give people a real concrete example: a kid born in a guy that saves born in nineteen eighty five, he still living in red lines districts. He still. He grew up with that struggle, because literal racist
since taken by individuals back then that does not mean that individual real estate agents today are going out therein and being overtly racists, but the remnants still exist. I want that to go away.
I want there to be a society where we treat people based on the content of the character, not the color of their skin, and this would I tried explaining- and this is where things got here-
I started by saying I do not believe I have it worse than black people
or or even Latinos. I dont know what I
and tell you, as my family, experienced racism, we were attacked by white supremacists.
They littered pamphlets on our door in our ports or whatever they threw up
through our vehicles, window and vandalism, front of our house and our I laughed at me and he told me I was lying and I may make it up
and I was like Bro, I'm literally telling you that white supremacist attacked my family and you're laughing at me and he goes yeah cuz. I don't believe you cuz you're, a white boy, you're, a white boy, your wife wear over and over again
and so I would say things like. How do you think that? How do you think that make somebody feel when they tell
that there were a victim of white supremacy or racism, and you laugh in their face, and now I mentioned, that's look. They state. They liked commands a temple
oppose identity politics and I'm like that's it. That's that's a misappropriation. That's that's miss attribution, I suppose, because actually don't when I opposes the authoritarian application of identity pilot
it's. What I oppose is telling children to close their eyes and reflect on the evening of their whiteness or whether whitenesses bad
one of the things I send you the episode either day was, I don't care if its critical race, Praxis or Christianity
where'd, you date, Judaism or or Islam School should not tell children
to sit down close their eyes and prayed a Lord or reflect on their whiteness. These are ideological practices. What we should tell kids is this is what Christians believe and here is their book. Does what critical race theorists believe in this their book, so I dont want books banned from schools to a certain degree of, I think that's important is to draw a distinction.
Into sought, like like adult explicit content yeah. I understand why we don't have that four kids, but books themselves should not be banned. The practice or practice of certain things should be practice being theory and practice from his woke individuals. It was really difficult for me because you know he just he eat it. It's not what I say:
was, you can't argue, with ideological racism. This guy are the rugged man
and I am not saying this universe on trying to draw up a drama. Anything I think is a good do, but I do think he is overly racist. Now may explain their there. There are there. Aren't there are nice people who are
working people who believe in and doing better who are willing to note their raw, but they have bad views and I think we solve that problem by having his conversations, I do think that his racism makes him in some ways a bad person, but I
think his willingness to to apologize to hug it out and two to explain why he was wrong is what makes him a good person to? I dont think,
that I think racism is bad. I think his racism is bad and I think
There are many many races to are substantially worse. So it's tough. It's a tough thing to say that you know, I think, he's a good dude, but I also think he's racist. Yes, I think he's got a lot to learn. I think he needs to read
these these criminal cases. I think he needs to read and understand individualism. I thinking it. He needs to do to give people a chance and be more compassionate, but I think it was willing to do some of that, but I do think the racism is racism.
Bad thing and is racism manifested itself in when he said this? Is this where we disagree
He was more collectivist, I'm an individualist. He said I was like if there's a black and white dude same education, same family upbringing.
Same neighborhood same town, same everything, identical Billy differences there race, who would you hire?
and he said if a studio is eighty five percent. Why give the black eye a chance? And I was like ok- I hear you. I just think it's wrong to use race as the predetermined factor as to why you hire somebody if these, if neither of these guys are impoverished or poor anything
that, and they had identical brings. Why would you choose some one based on race, I'm not saying which one you should choose, I don't know and
View was that white people have always had the opportunities and was very much the white privilege narrative, which he said, and this is what really
this is what really sets me off? I grew up with,
so everything I try to say I taught by the stuff. I will try to be as clear as possible, but it doesn't matter because people take clips. They took the clip of me and our aid getting heated, they didn't show the clip of us
then hugging and apologizing and end saying you know, look man, I'm sorry about that US beggar. You know it's cool and we worked it out because I too want to fight anybody.
We wanted the you get people on the right saying you know TIM has you know he should on this, and people are saying TIM's two tins packet and TIM's NEO carries heat, not staff, and, unlike did, I did not think for a second
but there was any risk to anybody in that room other than them other than the microphones our person. Why and things
numerous anything. You we slap them. I, but I think, he's gonna hurt anybody. That's that's! That's crazy that that I did you guys, think that about him or me that you know look
I just think we disagree on another deep political stuff, but here was the issue of explain them. So what a lot of what I was doing, my grandparents, my grandfather.
was a white. Did my grandmother was a korean woman?
and it was illegal for them to be married was literally a crime. I'm not I'm not exaggerate. It was a crime, it was their their anti machination laws, you could not cohabitation, and this was this was just like. Maybe this is almost a hundred years ago now,
that's crazy right, and so my grandparents had kids mixed race, kids,
that was also scary. I hear store
from my family about being insulted and spat on and called racial slurs. How my mom,
said I to pretend that my grandma was that it was the help, because if people found out that she was actually living there and married, my grandfather they'll be in serious trouble and that my fat, my mom's out of them, had to flee several states
it twelve, because, as a stories I was told, grown up that ETA fleece twelve states because of them is laws
Look why don't you go to a state? Where was not illegal and it's like you go where you can find the work reconstruct you survive and you take the rest you take so my mom grows up she's half korean and she made to my dad another white guy, I'm a quarter korean and then I grow up still seeing ram
of all of this stuff, as mentioned these racist policies like black, posing a red lining their others, the many of them have been a form of formerly ended, but this existed in the eighties man in the eightys as Bore nineteen. Eighty six, so my my families-
dealing with this and in no way I'm- and I am I saying it's anything like what black people experience. I think many I think the black community has a tendency towards experiencing substantially worse things.
as a tendency, because I also know very well off, like people who haven't experienced that- and I know people who emigrated here recently, who don't view themselves as part of you, know that community they see themselves as immigrants their black, so not to explain it to our aid.
I want a world where I don't. I don't get judged on the basis of my race. Yet you you, don't you don't eat the ito. He can't you just call me away.
we over and over again and everytime, I sat dude. I have experienced racism, he would just laugh, laugh and say no your line. He said
storyteller justice. Mallette stories you're making it up soon
really really frustrating to have a white dude. What I'm saying I believe racism is a problem. I believe the sum of racism is a problem, but I won't
When we had one Super Chet, we're woman said I was white, my mom or two or three jobs struggling to get by he's our care. I care why people problems some of that effect and on why I asked him. Why won't you approach that person with compassion is don't have to? I don't have to,
well, there's the issue. While I can acknowledge all of these issues of racism, I would never look at a poor white person unblock your Europe, your problems, your life and you struggled, don't matter
because it's not gonna be alike are right. Let me know what you need. I want everybody to feel better to act. It took to outright decide
somebody and their experiences, then that in the hardships they ve gone through because of their race is racist. I'd want to live in that world. There's reality. I don't think I've dealt with the worst racism. Imagine
people. I don't think my life has been. You know a boot, well, I've I've experienced racism and
I'll explain something to you guys guys it's it's crazy people don't get this, but you look at the comments from other people whore who are mixed asian and they are like they basically say the same things there is theirs theirs.
Has a different experience. This is this is what intersection reality typically refers to, that different people experience different forms of racism based on their identities. I have never disagreed with that ban. Shapiro didn't disagree with that. Like it's true, if you're a black man they're certain forms a thing, people believe about you or stereotype, you as your black woman, if your half, if your mixed or whatever, what I dont like as the authoritarian application of, and I dont like the establishment attacking people based on their race, its racism,
I don't care if you're you know black or latino or asian or white, I dont want someone. Somebody ought to white person and insult them. He's Rachel Sars against them for being white. I wanted to be american wannabe human, so I tried to explain that.
Let me let me breaks in the non for you guys in from my experience in my life, there are a lot of you
on the left, depending on you know what they want to believe in what they dont like about me. Who will tell me I'm everything that they that they didn't like don't act by Wall Street. I was told that I was the perfect example of the poor
I'm a minority mixed race, high school dropout from a poor neighbourhood about I'm, a smart guy.
why, when I have the opportunity- and then I got the opportunity I gave it I took- I took it upon myself to on unoccupied filled thanks and I got press coverage.
As soon as I was featured in Time magazine where the occupier say he's a white boy
or spoon and his mouth rich cared blah blah blah. I immediately just transformed into this thing
There were people there, and this is what one of things experience. Alot white people tend not to call me why it s especially depends on the season, mind you and I'm not exaggerating, literal seasons. In the summer I ten very, very easily I'd, be I become very dark:
I have around her face. I have asian facial hair and when my skin is dark, I do not get called white growing up. Is it my experience growing up? I was in a very mixed area in Chicago, and that made it work really for everybody cause me and my friends have different backgrounds, we're like we're all different inanimated, but but we're all the same. The it wasn't. You know like one due to darker scan one person.
Didn't and whatever we care. One dude was swarthy, but we we that was normal, that people look slightly different. So we thought it was cool. You know we are like.
It's amazing thing for us. For us it was just stupid, jokes and in an punchy till the shoulders, but I did it I did look. I thought I did not start to understand things when I would venture off from that from the south to Chicago, undoubtedly, suburbs. I'd find that first of all, I was poor, very poor
not the poorest, not absolutely the poorest? We were. We were initially lower middle class and like upper lower class boundary, I guess I'm going to
owing to overwhelmingly white suburbs. It was really interesting to see you now to experience what it was like to not be a part of a community amounting to cry. But no one mistreated me
treating different this guy or I did want to believe that he told me I was lying, but it's true. I would go from the city go to the suburbs, where ninety nine percent, why
and they would say things like. So what are you? Where are you from that's the kind of thing? I don't cry about Micro, Russians. I would just be like. Oh you know my mom's part korean second generation. You know mixed might be as migrant families from those are real experiences
and it's not that people were were mean to me about it, but it certainly
makes you feel, like you know, you're, not a part of this. I had some right guys Tommy. Thus they said you don't under
and race because you don't have one, this is one thousand Portland in the left-
take this photo smear me with it, but I was talking to these guys who or what
materials and they said you, don't you don't have that you don't have the racial community you dont have, and I was like your correct and I dont want that to be what this country is about, especially because I don't have it because other people don't happen because we can all be people and live and work together and now that the White nationalist view as this is their people, I don't have that. I dont have like a quarter, a crop of community, you know, there's there either there's hoppers, half Asian, that's just what a means and proper coordination
there are different experiences and I've had people who have our of similar background say the same thing you go to these neighborhoods that are predominantly white and people just act like they know. Something is off about you, and that was my experience. I'm not some people are bad p
it's just my life, and I learned I learned it just its is how things are no cry about it, but I do think that if you get a claim to be fighting racism
and I say: hey, let's consider what I went through and why I think this is bad
but then you just outright laugh and say you're lying. I don't believe you and I dont care anyway. I'm like that's exactly the problem with weakness.
They accentuate
deny racism in this country. I want people to have every opportunity I want,
he'll diversity. I want to see you know I like. We should be at a point where
Street just reflect v v, the natural population of of the country. What I mean as if we, if there was a
this and it had. Seventy percent white people I'd be like beyond most people if your white, if they had thirteen percent black people, I beg
eighty percent of people around here are black. I think relative, but you know, population rubber, representative population would be a great thing. However, it it's either gonna happen or it's not. I don't think we should be denying people opportunities because of their race. Racism does not cure racism, that's what supermax candy beliefs, and I think he is wrong about that. I think familiarity and racism. I think growing up together. I think recognising the problems of the past
and that's a lot of what the left claims to do and that's why I agree with some of it, but in the establishment in the mainstream what're you get. We have a book that was
by Astrid ammonia until guest. I around the whiteness contract all right
as oh that's you know, that's a scare tactic and, unlike what there's like twenty or thirty books were complaining specifically about these books,
If you take that to assume more sang, every school,
everywhere and everything ever said. Is this one book? That's not what we're saying spheres where got mad, so I'm explain
The stem more things out explaining, as I don't, have a community and he laughed he's annul care and, unlike Bro, your white dude
You have italian Sicilian, family, you have the old country you have all of those things are have any of that. Ok and I'm not saying it makes me better or worse than it had just explaining to that me
there's no retreat either I choose to live in a world where we're Americans first or I dont- have whatever this racial garbage people, oh identity organism, it's not gonna happen for
unless I get a tiny scale of like the
zero, zero, zero one per cent of Hopperson crop, as this country like come together and are talking about it
we started saying: oh, did you have this? Did you have that? Did you of this and in the one thing he said, was you can pull down the line at the airport that set me off? You know why, because I do almost every time
talked about it over and over and over again, maybe its political I dont know I went to ask
Recently I flew there. I got pulled.
Of the line. They said you ve been chosen for a random screening. Sir happens all the time
when I was in the UK. The gay meeting that for us is on our. That means security of some sort. They pull
be out of the line. I don't get the board first I'll, give him a my bag in the carry on cuz. I get pulled out of line. I don't know why political, maybe, but it's crazy for him to be like that, doesn't happen to you and that set me off cuz. I was like dude
We are at a point now, I'm sitting across from a guy who is saying over and over again that he doesn't care that people are racist to me. He said he did not care that white supremacist attacked my family. I didn't believe me anyway,
after me- and he told me to lower my voice- and he called me a bitch that that's at me off, then I lord my voice because he was right
I lord, I was young. I was like this happens to me all the time. Almost every single time I go to the outbreak of pulled out and they set lower your voice, lower your voice, lower your voice, bitch.
And so I said, ok, I'm all my was on lower lore my voice, and then he says, don't yell at me, I'm not that guy, and then I said yes, you are that guy. You are that guy. What do these lefties are like? The class divide is real big
TIM doesn't know what you are, that guy Means- and I
just like what you think was going on in his mind
Then I don't know what he was saying he litter.
Was saying to me: don't yell at me because I'm not that guy, and I said yes, you are so I was men and I felt that was out alone. That's why I was I apologize to him
I understand I was calling him a bitch. He called me a bitch, so I got pissed off. He was tat. He was laughing at me. He was telling me that my experiences weren't real. He was telling me that it didn't matter that my family was attacked.
And that I should I should just shut up. I'm I'm not gonna live in a world where you have people who believe that the it's called white Savior, I'm not gonna, I'm. I won't stand for that. So I got men. I went off.
I shouldn't have you know when it comes to look at our own up to this one hundred percent. I invite this kind, my home, we we know the things he believes
and then I raised my voice Adam. I should have done it he's a lotta. Laugh at me he's
You don't know me anything. He came here, there's a favour. By being on that show- and I know people don't don't like a more that some people thought the show is bad at. That was a good show and I should not have raised my voice
and then when he said. Don't do that to me I should not have said you're that guy. I was wrong in that, so he got up and slapped. The MIKE
yeah, I mean he shouldn't have again but dude. I type basically insulted and he shouldn't have insulted me, but,
I should be in controls my responsibility, but outlaw.
I would really really grinds. My usual makes me the angriest is my family experiences racism. I just want people to understand its bad,
for you for anybody, no matter what your rice is, I don't care if you're white, black latino people shouldn't crap all over you take away opportunities from you and harm you in any way. Because of your rice, all right,
we were, that he believes more an racial determinism. He believe
is that we should be heavily focus on the black struggle and to address,
degrees, diminishing against how we deal with other struggles. He doesn't care,
that's arm. He
he D literally just said, because I looked white to him that things I
rather lies, and unlike that's it, that's the racism. That's what I don't like. That's what draw! What what pisses me off? You don't mean,
So I really really mad about it and it made me really pessimistic at the end of that member segment, because I was just like, I don't think raisins ever gone away,
and the reason is because of people like are the rugged man look.
Can I can I want to give him respect and I wanna be apologetic for sure
but I gotta be honest when a do can sit there and look at my face, a guy who is a one hundred percent white dude and tell me that it was it was just you know, might might my family had to deal with it with
loving view Virginia that modulation laws and he was like yeah well, you know, Sicilians that, like a talents and unlike my family, would go to jail. Dude like your family just got mad at each other, I'm not trying to diminished what he went through. I respect that, but he was using it to diminish what my family went through an all I'm trying to get across is: can we just stop judging people on their race? He doesn't want to do that. He wants to do that. He wants people judged on their race. He would run
you you wouldn't want. You would use race as a as a predetermined it in how people go to school and how they get hired and it's crazy. That's just racism he's just a racist guy and I wish he could understand, but
How do you convince a racist and not be racist, there'll Davis, I suppose you know
give respect to him because he admitted he was wrong several times and for apologizing and all that stuff. But that's that's that's my view on everything
think intersection reality. I understand a completely. I completely understand critical race theory, but I do not agree with a marxist undertones. I do not agree that we should.
Telling kids we should be implementing a practice in the schools where we in
this ideology in two other subject matter like math. It's just it's gone too far to say that math is racist. As I do know, it's not much of our math is arabic algebra. We use arabic numerals
think these people just overtly racist, and I tell you this at a personal level. It scares me about what that means for me and what it means for my family what it means for my future.
finally, I want to live in a world where I could tell my kids to lie about what their races that's, what I had to go through an end when he found out it was funny when he found out there's a quarter. Korean
He said you're, not if you only a quarter, odd cheese dude since our lesson and also how do you think I make you feel you're laughing about,
and it's like I'm not laughing at you being I'm saying you does it matter and unlike its
Is it really really is to have a white dude claim to be fighting racism? Laugh at me, based on the things I went through, even though I was trying to agree with them. It
really fowls lot felt like getting spit on over and over again your life
doesn't matter. I don't care what you ve been through. I don't agree with you.
I don't believe you and I don't care because you are. You opposed my views and I'm just like ideological racism in so I'll stress that last point. Systemic racism exists. I believe that black people in this country have it way worse when it comes to racism,
do I never will that fact, and then there are some people who are well off in their black and there are some people who are poor and who are white. That's why I feel, like the whole thing, is just a class issue at this point. We need to address for class because if you believe that institutional racism has held people back than than than addressing for class will solve these problems disproportionately for those who are negatively impact, it
Bye bye raises issues, but when you just keep saying you, wanna use ratio is ratio. Unease race that will we end up,
is races deeds, saying racist things and refusing to acknowledge that their racist I'll leave it there
I don't I don't. I would say we. I don't see a way we solve this, because the left is going to claim I'm racist and it's funny like this is what I was we're just raised me, nuts white people telling me that I'm the real racist, because my family experienced racism and I wanted to stop.
About that. A man look all is said and done our re apologized. I apologize to him. I take responsibility for raising my voiced voice at somebody that I invited to come in here. So you come in here. Your allotted disagree with me. You're, not, alas, me a lot of mock me. I should not have raised my voice, that's on me I'll, be there our aim and I think you're cool dude, much respect the work you have done, but this is a great song dude, the king of the underground,
Is it an epic song? I know this song from when I was playing looking for ps2 man playing Skateboarding Video games, I'm escaping my whole life. I know this dude and I got mad respect for the work he's done. I just wish people would wake up to what's going on with the racism or leave it there. Next time it's coming up at four p dot m over at Youtube dot com, Timcast thanks for hanging out and I'll see you all, then.
Transcript generated on 2021-12-17.