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and he was only like ten minutes later. I realized I go with me and I was like fuck that's incredible, hello and welcomes trigonometry destroys america on frances the constant and kissing- and this is a show for you- if you want all these conversations with fascinating pay We don't have either of those for you today, because today it's just us reviewing the trip we ve just finished. France's Bilbo walked out. The door behind you. Two hours ago- and he says where best friends so Did he say that just I wasn't there for that? Pa not well known finally meant it on omens. Yeah man, I meant but now it was incredible into

while the issue itself was incredible, but I want to talk about the whole trip. Ok, because working away back in the day was bilbil. Yesterday was Adam caroling, some harris before that we were national, where we entered my walls- column right golan right as well before that we were in in texas. Where I mean we went on Joe rogan show, which was incorrect lanka deeply, we we were very diplomatic me I felt here we were, I mean I was such as we're doing so? Are you always diplomat jobs literally just said most british comedian? Second, you before, and then said yeah, I agree with you. knowing whereby to go to edinburgh, well we're gonna, be surrounded by the very people who all got triggered by the common but did they and their own blaming me, but we find you people since time, I'm here I will minor blaming the Jews, is the customary way of doing it. I just didn't expect that coming from your picture

It's just a luxurious jewish as well. I know it so beautifully charming. Your people have been excelling at that for generations. Who am I to stop this wonderful tradition? Unbelievable anyway, so big joey, we went on Joe show. That was absolute The mind blowing and the one thing I take away. Most of all from this trip actually is, I learned from our experience on on being on Joe show, and I said to him and because it was, it was true afterwards light I always thought of going in, and spending for hours will have along. It would be were Joe as an opportunity. I did not realise how much funding would be. It was incredible phone and by the end of a war, was insane for maize light. Here we and I- and I was just in this mode that you and I would be if we're sitting in a restaurant or at the studio or whatever ways like we talk about. spore and boxing and will just shooting the shit about the u of c, and I was like oh yeah. I've got this point to send, and then I and then I was away away,

This is the guy. That's interviewed like every! U of c champion ever and actually knows what he's talking about yeah, you know, what's very interesting as well is how much of a difference did that punk MIKE to the entire interview into the interchange of the interview, innovation, and it was perfectly time yet it was was good enough for two hours. If we were talking about culture war, we talking about very serious issues on the grooming gang, and we were talking about political correctness, free speech. We did a good, solid chunk of classic trig. Then the old. with this came out and we went in a different direction, but we ve never talked about like spirituality, on the show. In that way. Now I tell you what what the You talked about it with brave when we, but we did the podcast bridge inveteracy For you, there was a moment, my without shared. This is your rug. When he walked in, I didn't see.

yeah, but what I did feel is the moment here Ask me about whether putin is good news and a nuke I know I was already stoned yeah. I was like a better got slightly better pay attention. He again didn't fuck up. Did I just not often europe give you plan on japan and just because you wanted the real one year they wanted. They wonder is me I was it was incredible experience and then the next day and see that two things with doing rogan is its journey and sounds really lanky, but economies because you ve been preparing for it. For so long and even when you you're not programme from it, for it you still. point of on that path. Anyway, because you've got to start you're saying you've got to do it. You've got to price it. You've got to become really good at it. Did it did it to you, then do the pod cause and then you leave the room in the next. I e just prepare for the full up and, I think, probably always gets get out to a certain degree

Everybody goes running. All his guests come on then shit on their former indecision on our straight, my only me and you have that level of trough. Yeah, exacting exactly what a magical experiences warrior. Man you're gonna die. What and then to my boy when we went through the comedy nigh afterwards yeah. That was incredible. That was completely mind blowing cause he was just so uncensored get. I haven't seen anything like that in my life, not it was his friend the lot. not a lot, but some of the judge you too fine for me, but at least someone able to make them yeah exactly just go I don't personally like them doesn't mean I want people not to be able to make them yet, and then the uk that would literally never happened You were a tweet about that and not when I went down down really well yeah. So what an experience but Joe is such a legitimate dude. Like one thing that he did ass, he helped us with a lot of them,

the things that we were doing and I don't want to be non talk about it publicly, but he's alive guatemala gone unnoticed from other people again, not conceive how, but we would like he's someone who really likes helping other miracle. He aims to help you be better. This is what we talked about on the show like. I think we forget how different the british comedy scene and culture is on the in this respect. Exactly like everyone is pulling everyone down, no young ones. Anyone to do well- and here is just the opposite and its a policy, and I know you're going to say I've got a chip on my shoulder- is partially a class for fuck sake, it's true Now I grab without money. You know, people don't want you to get around makes level they just a woman? Why you want to action exactly? where you ah yes said this.

This is the thing with you might you you want to ram your claws in every fucking orifice of every conversation as I do? Why is that? Because I Are you really think we know something that we don't go anywhere near as much to addressing as we should, which is done. Have that history, You know, and all this is of about america all society and I love her and been having people shaggy gang? I do love is my home, but thing is stratified, everybody knows extra to where they are sector. You come to america aside, somebody's got the cards and one them up in the air. I know what you mean, but so Much of that is just in your head man. It is lucky look where you're saying in america, yeah yeah, you ve made it yeah, but we

did it on our own yeah. We didn't go through due now is holding us down yet no go. All france go away. Action now, except me, fear true, came out here but it's a bbc yeah well you're, not nonsense for the beers irish troops. that I would I not die interested in kids exactly I was proven innocent of all charges so take take That has been the the the wonderful thing about america. The thing I have loved, in energy here. There's a positivity insignia. When you come here, you can feel yourself happened where no one is looking at you going. Where is this person coming from in society, people just they. They do not. they want to do well and they want other people to do well, not look in every country, there's going to be good people and bad people and stupid people and clever people in an old one.

sort of it, and I know that in his in the u S, there is a lot of sort of like bitching and fighting against you among comedians different scenes, etc, but it does feel like a completely different experience and one of them for us as we really expanded our friendship circle. While we ve been here like most of the people we ve met. You know we haven't even talked about the time was spent in virginia before aston, where we stayed with sub gorka, whose a big fan of the show and a friend of ours took us to shoot some guns till you fool, guns, explorers and freed. All this stuff was like enough logs that supporters c, and That's another thing has been incredibly, like I told you I had this out of body experience last night now, admittedly, we had had a bit more the weed

yup, but the reason I bring it up is like I was looking at my phone and checking our stats tried don. Usually do you know we don't look at that really ever knock. We don't definitely don't look at every night, not all every yeah. We definitely don't do that. But I was looking at our stance and I was looking at some of the videos that we ve got on the channel, which is these logs I was not associating with myself in rome and I was just looking at it through the eyes of like us, a neutral person. An ice for a guy, Who is in america, india, interviewing sam Harris belburg is doing your rogan. And he was only like timmins later. I realized I go with me here,

I feel like traveling around documenting the trip, checking interesting things out making friends and I was like fuck- that's incredible: yeah yeah the fact that we are able to do this. The fact that we've. Got so many people who are watching us. Listen to us willingness on giving us money joining now who is doing all of these two different things, even or even just listening or watching, still amazing people willing to give their time to listen to radio comedians committees. That to me blow me or an august blows me away every single time. I'm war want the more we grow is to have more experience. Is this I want. Take on all our audiences on our roads on even more virginia, because, I think the magic of this trip was in people message me. They were like watching you, since twenty nineteen on twenty eighteen and see

gone wrong and makes me so proud of. You know like it's one ban, like you see him in the back of a pub and then you won't do biggest staff and whatever else- and I really looking forward to when we even more incredible things just breathe everyone on a journey with a month, man of logs of I think, you're gonna, be potentially very interesting part of future the shop, yeah, because people want to see like that's how it actually happens. You know, and I d that that's fascinating to me, looking into that some will see what we can do but area whose in in turn, will begin in the nice nice bonus outcome. The work is done in making those lugs fifty quid coming in recital twenty, but you know what I mean yes so, It's been absolutely mine blowing. The number of people who like us here who watch us here. We had someone come up to us and allay who works for like a massive movie star. We had people we

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And then he goes yeah yeah. He was like that was built today. I was like that with job. You did a good job here was a moment you a very wise dimension, the weed exactly he whipped the blood right out, yeah exactly and and then you walk away with one of our guests, and I won't say who it is: they came in with a fist bump and they left of a handshake yeah. You know yeah. I love that you've just managed to open something up and people, and then people get to understand who they truly are and why they think the way they yeah. That was fascinating. Somebody said yeah it's and I love that today and every every other day that we've done and there's been some challenges like when we first arrived. All our equipment didn't show up. Basically, we had nothing to wear to run around new york and.

So he will eat the. You know there were some challenges, but it's been an absolute joy and absolute joy. If this trick is felt slightly magical yeah they they seem to have that kind of magical quality about it. Yeah, and it's just it's difficult to describe well, I think we came to a place that we we haven't really been in in this way, like it's different, being here doing what would we would do? Yeah we're meeting people were literally in the place where, like the industry, the wherein ye is being created and cancer and cancer every day, yeah right, but if you're into podcasting

Or if you understand, or if you into politics, are you two philosophy we have met and interviewed on this trip? People who are literally at the pinnacle of that we're filbert is at the pinnacle of stand near Joe rogan is the pinnacle of port costing right? There are some harris. Is the pinot pinnacle of the political and philosophy conversation out. You know he's got once you it's those points. People become controversial and some people will disagree with them. But there's no question that SAM Harris is one of the world's most prominent public intellectuals in the last five years, five, seven years, that's just what it is yeah he's here

John peterson douglas Murray. You know these are public intellectuals. At that level, and so on all those fronts we've been literally talking to the people who are making and shaping that world yeah and it's been fascinating. This trip has felt like this trip has felt far longer than two and a half weeks yep, and I was thinking to myself. Why is that? And it's because we're having such incredible experiences that time is slowing down, Tat. There was a point in the rogan interview where I lost track of all time. That would be the weed, my yeah. That will be the worried, but it's all so. I've had it so often since we ve been here like days lost forever, because experiencing so much were meeting so many incredible people were growing as a result, but women

come back all three of us different than when we went near no question about it. I think we were right there from one of the ways on different enough. I am really really keen the trigonometry becomes a vehicle now in the uk, for people who are doing good things to get a bigger audience yeah, I think in the past I was so focused on growing what we're growing that he didn't occurred to me that we actually in a position to help other people get you know, and if someone is doing good work, why can't we do what joe does here which, as you know, there are people who have no thirty thousands of lives subscribers on youtube, and in the past. We were so focused on growing our audience that we wanted to talk. To them, but he was. He was difficult to reconcile with with the fact that we want more people to watch the show right. So you have to get people with a bigger role. and we always tried, like we always gave people an opportunity. You know when it when we first but it was really worth you know and obviously like

when we're talking about serious issues. Get someone on no matter how big an audience have like a doctor, a hill, zero to jump alike That is the interview I am most proud of, that we have done, and I include this trip right and not interview was never going to get more than like one hundred thousand views or whatever it's on, but for the most part you have to focus on getting people who are big names. You know and part of the conversation at that level. and now I feel you know we have a responsibility to take on jos attitude, which is building a community of people. That's what I learned from him and support people. We're coming up. You know that there are so many people that in the uk are doing good stuff. And we don't even know a lot of them yet because we again, we ve been so focused on what we ve been doing, but that there are lots of people, comedians and and other people who have a try

to make stuff yeah. Why not bring them along? Why not? Why not give them an opportunity- and I think that's really important, because what you said that was the inspiring thing about job that easy. He get some people who have no one knew the size of an audience that wouldn't that you know you would want to bring on to so that people would hear about the podcast that people would understand it, but he believes that they have something of value to add, And that he can help them along the way. I look he's been burned, we ve been but is really important that you bring people in you, give them a chance so that they can then go on

and create amazing things. Yeah. Well, look, you know whatever people think about the two people I'm going to mention the fact is they're important figures in the culture being a cultural space. We were the first people as far as I know, to do a long form, interviews, it'd be yup and we were the first people as far as I know, to do a long form into a laurence fox yeah right. I I I mean, I'm not saying we made them, we did but yeah no sign that we should be grateful to her no abolished in Gaza, but you know what I mean there are lots of people out there who have got. Opinions their strongly held in their people of charisma character whatever, and we may.

I agree with everything that person does down the line or nah, but you know, I think it's really important for us to to encourage people who want to speak their mind yeah, whatever position they're coming from. Actually, you know, like a lot of comedians, had a go at us for what we said on rogan, but I, if there are people who have something interesting to say and who are building something cool and exciting, that don't agree with us, I'd love to have them on. Let's talk yeah! No, I don't I I'm not like I'm not this.

This experience of being here is so been so powerfully positively inspiring. There, though, I don't have any of that, like all we were going to we're going to shut you out just cause, you have the wrong opinion. I really dont, you know, and it's very tempting, and I think it's important that we we do. The osa thing it's important if we see like a comedian, who's been like a dick to us, but maybe they're going through their own stuff and people are going to try and console them for innocuous. You know we just quote tweets with the words ha ha. No, but we had spent a year. How does that taste to note a side? She really important that we actually reach? I go, pay bother, you ok just

we need. Just let me know, because it is important for people to understand the we put we platform when we try to platform. Everybody with regard to the exceptions are I'd run by everybody else. You ve got a chance of coming on here. If you ve got something valuable to say no, but also you know if you're going through your own stuff. If you know, if you, if you're in danger, if you've you know, you've got people who are coming for you and trying to take away your career and everything that you can come to us and we will give you a fair hearing and you'll be able to per se and put across your experiences yeah and that's really important yeah. I agree so this experience has just been

It has been the deprogramming from a lot of kind of cultural indoctrination that we have in the uk that I needed. As for you know, a lot of people walking like are we moving to tat, takes us or whatever I dont think we will be right away, but I definitely think will be spending more time in america than we happen. While I ve been spending under his in america, so this area, but it like we'll be back and probably quite soon and probably for a period of time yet but we'll see, pussy have a gun. we'll see how that goes, but I also feel you know like I, I mean you can't pretend that when Joe rogan says to you live in front of millions of people and also then like in private and you should come, I really want you to come and be part of the community here, like the cant deny that that is flattering and very appealing, particularly because austin is fucking, incredible yeah.

And he saw so as well. You ve got you need to try it yeah you're, not try, but what I, where I was going was also, I do feel the in a web of british show and the people I watched us from the beginning and the people who supported us from the beginning on the people who who were really invested in our show. A lot of them off from Britain the issues we talk about, are important to them in their lives and to just like abandon them and just jump on the bandwagon of united states. I dont think that will be, the for us now is not to say that we may not eventually just. For whatever reason feel like this is the place where we ve gotta be fatal for longer or permanently. But at the moment I feel, like you know this, such important battle is being fought and actually there are some wins going on in our gender ideology

the time that we ve been away. Tavistock has been shut down. We had a whistle blower from tavistock come and talk about it took to hundreds of thousands of people. Government ministers- I bet you who, who made that decision and who, who were part of the process of the whole thing, they would have watched that interview yeah, that that's just one example and there's been others too, and that's the thing about the uk. Is it it's still our home? We still consider ourselves brick fish and this so many problems here at the moment. There are so many things that we need to talk about this, so many things aren't being talked about in nearly zones The way they should be and we really need to go back and talk to these people and expose what is happening in all these different and in all these different facets of society, where it needs to be done.

because we were the ones doing it now there were other people have come along, but I like to say that we do it best and that we need to be back there I agree and also you know, our raw shows you're, not everybody's cup, of tea for sure yeah to some people, a frigid near exotic marriages and not a good one arm too far. What I was gonna says we met one of our top supporters yeah here in new york, and would add, and one of the things she said to us, I never really thought about alive. I guess because it's a kind of you know if you think that about yourself it's an arrogant way of looking at it, but on rule we combine offensive but funny comedy with What I'd like to think is a fair minded political analysis. The will take the place of the people on the left and the right

when they go wrong. Now, look, we have our views of things and at the moment the far left concerns us more because it's more numerous and its captured institutions or whatever, but we are combining a fair minded political commentary with humor and what nathan said to us. He said he we're not the best of what you do, you're the only people who do that and I'm no I'm, certainly not aware of any comparable show, and I don't think you could do a comparable show on tv even on even on somewhere. You know like gb news, where the guys do a good job. You know, but it's still put constrained by the parameters of television voice. What we do is raw, exactly and rule works because we're british, Because we take a british attitude and a british way of looking at the world,

What is the lens and just cost it across the globe and the people who watch us tend to be gonna pay from all over the world, but I tend to be two things: they tend to be anglerfish. Number one and number two their lovers of british comedy. So they watch this and they get this sort of, were I look at the world very soon cool and thus british and I love american humor and I love americans going to shit on american stand ups in in one trip. No, no. I love british humor, the american comics all suck too. They always sought. No, way of looking at the world? If guy hey? This is, isn't it s british yeah yeah? That's do. As I say we I mean that's war. Thus, already here have been looking at all these different component. Calm, your legs, difficult years, subjects and events in this guy innovation in it,

and combined with you know, push every boundary yeah. You know a comedically yeah, this fun, it's a lot of fun. When so I look forward to getting back in and get the roar started back up here and of course I mean we recorded like in credible interviews- and I look forward to putting out for like ill. You lost us a month, so excited for people to see visions.

I mean SAM Harris. You know that's going to piss off a hell of a lot of people, but also there's a bit in that when he talks about how to live a happy life. That's just berlin. You know bill burr for hilarious, yeah, Adam corolla. Talking about you know how california's become like a super progressive and therefore very restricted, place and being really funny and talking about you know, the working class situation, roles that Matt Walsh was brilliant. Matt Walsh was very good and I challenge them pretty hard on the feminist stuff. You know yeah, so people people will, I think, feel like it was a you know. He got asked the right questions yep at least from me. I think there's something we probably left out that pose it might might she might revoke the price that she had for us after rogan, but we'll see- and you know, young catholic

very interesting, near common hughes, always great mark norman tyler fishes a grey area in a sea of on. I mean that one we ve got to take responsibility for that may well, not an overriding joe needs to take some responsibility. Cause he's, got a fucking stone there and then sent off to into within one year embrace them lovely man phenomenal comedian, boulevard, J. We want the best community storm live after was again saying it was insane light, so good and it was sweet as well, really nice guy, but he turns up sobered dude, tattooed comedians board, cause he's never want. You are clearly of their not near. There was wid. What's it thanks? Jack

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like to challenge no part of it, which is like. Can I dance the dance with some harris here an hour? She thought we did exactly that region we we we held them. We We were with him and whenever he sets things that we thought we know heed to. His logic was faulty like when you what to say in army there's always that part of it too, like you're, you're, you're you're talking to some smart people now yeah sam harris was one of those people. He had a rich billionaire vibes when he came in and he just sat down by the way watson. I stood. One lovely lovely, lovely man. We had some tech issues and the answer was laughing about four with china worker We have always taken a long time, and we will, I ok forget like looks it, I don't want to I dont want to waste any more time. Some unsolicited.

He was like no, no guys guys, I don't have anything planned for the rest of the afternoon. So I'll just take your time and we'll do it right and he gave us, we did have it and our full interview with him longer than that yeah. So he was supposed to be here from midday until one and he left at like two thirty. It was great, it was incredible and he wanted to keep going. I wanted to keep going yeah. We all did we had. You know we had things we weed places I needed to be a dinner dinner exactly, but what what a pleasure, what a pleasure to sit with a mind, is brilliant at sams and just hear him talk yeah. Absolutely that was incredible and you know bill was fascinating as well, because he's on an interesting journey as a person yeah. You know he talked a lot about. Basically you know becoming a better person and how that's affecting him and how

peoples perceive them as different and all that yeah and you know how to become not only a better person for yourself, but arguably, more importantly, a better person. Few children absolutely and of course he was hilarious, yeah, absolutely hilarious, yeah. You know, and there were a few little digs at both of us in the yeah yeah yeah those, even when you watch it a little bit of a dare I say she impersonation in April was a all right back to the camp maria. Think. It was a sham presentation of all british people, tat exact, a collective impersonation us, but that was fantastic in. And by the way, those people who we didn't interview, but like bridge of fantasy, what war equality, human being. She is absolutely brilliant known from cut from the comedy seller norm, who runs the comedy seller chris williamson? Whom do you know

showed us around Austin. I love his channel more wisdom. People should check it out. He's just been unbroken literally yesterday, as we recorded as a he's crushing, and he really looked after us, and here I mean said gorka was just like amazing. You know everybody that we got to hang out with the existing a minch as your people, in which certain yet but We went to the comedy seller we saw Kevin heart lies live coming, there was some pizza one great the one bit that was funny. Oh my god. Oh my god. I was incredible that bit. Was incredible t J miller, we east is highly critical of the brain He was phenomena Allah embassy. The whole thing was is just touched, my magic yes, it was. It was right from the first. I knew not where the you know, we couldn t

done it without our like, like I said man when I looked at my phone yesterday, I was just like. I can't believe this is my life yeah. You know and that's why we we talk to Joe about gratitude. Just like you know the feeling of gratitude that you and I and anton feel, and and this is the thing I think people probably watch the show and think like we were packing millions away in our bank account slight, we haven't got any money at all, not right, ignored the surroundings. We really dont know we don't we done. We thought we make enough money to pay ourselves arrest the boy modest salary and to pay our stuff. That's what we're? That's all the money that we have. It's not like. We we've built a compound tim pool or Joe rogan or whatever, but just being here and doing this dislike bill. Bertha, just like none of us has a real job. Not, and our job is this. This is what we do.

that's why I was so happy is no way we came to a land border, fuckin mansion. Now we're we're delighted, because we get to do this and we get to do wrong and we get to be free We get to be free and we don't have to muzzle ourselves and we can do the jobs that we want and we don't have to beg comedy promoters for opportunities or whatever we just doing a thing and there's an audience out there for that, exactly and it's such a light burning man here and good men compared

hello comedians! I mean more moral, probably informal mark, but it's not untrue, but that is how that is because of the people who support here. It's the people like us, a one off donations is amazing audience. Are we ve cultivated? This works? then you and that's why, when I go back, a lot of my excitement is going to be from just guy they're gonna lose their minds when they see the bill bar interview oh they're gonna get so far can pay stuff with SAM harris is exciting. Amman is showing signs that we're gonna give them these amazing interviews, but I'm gonna be honest. the light. I don't know why the podcast does that she's going to be great, and just

get the feedback and people going we'll start competing or people. just going yeah that was brilliant already had that pong yeah exactly I mean SAM Harris is going to get that yeah. Yes, she is yes, she is, but you know one of the other things I learned from Joe as well is how dispassionately he is. He does passionate he is about disagreeing with people knew when Joe rogan says. I don't think, that's true, you don't feel attacked not done right. like, for example, you said right at the end of the conversation that people who say that boring fighting is is bore. What we started fighting a boring, and they're, not real fans. Anyone, that's not true yeah, and he gave you an example, but you didn't feel like you were attacked or even though you should have been yeah right for not knowing your shit. Exactly

This showed with thanks and lawyer. You know what I mean. You have cool and that's one of other things that I really hope that we can cultivate with. Our show is like I think, when we were starting out a lot of people felt that they attached and projected thereon political views and ambitious on ambitions onto us. They thought that we have a particular ideology that we follow near and we we are the vehicle by which the ideology will win rights, but that's not really true. We want to talk to different p,

and so one of the things that means is we've got to be able to talk to someone like sam, with whom I disagree very profoundly on some of the things that he said in that interview. You know yeah and we've got to be able to talk to him and talked him in a respectful way cause in a way that he feels heard in the way that he feels that he was worth his time coming here. That's really important that that's the only way we progress. If it's just talking points you know, I've got this. One you've got that one. I don't think we're going to get anywhere. No and if we're gonna use the internet, we've talked so much on our show about the damage, the damage, the utter damage to our society, that social media is doing. Big tech companies, Doing you know, then we have to offer something. That is the antidote to that. At least here, at least in the hour or two hours that we spend were somebody we ve gotta create space where different conversations can be had and different people with different voices can be heard.

I've always said my dream: weak trigonometry b to release niger fraud on a wednesday tromp on a sunday, no fraud on a Wednesday carbon, honest thy jeremy corbett thats, that's what I want us to be. I want us to be and we are but continued to be and grow as be the centre, why we interview everybody here and you come here You know what you're gonna get is a fair hearing, you're gonna, get a chance for you to say what you think, I'm why you think and you'll be asked two questions that normal people normal people will want to hear nonsense, you not some journalists, bullshit yeah, you know some people would say this and I didn't know what what a normal person meal you like with where norm. This is the thing that makes the show work here, we're just normal people who have normal questions. We tried to think about things in a commonsense way. When are when all you know, political philosophers

well whatever yeah we're just trying to ask the questions that most people would like to know, and sometimes those questions are more intellectual, because you know that there are people out there who want the the the mind nourishment of an intellectual conversation and sometimes it's more practical. It's about you know, day to day politics, and sometimes it's entertaining or sometimes it's about a really. You know, I think, high stakes issue like the grooming gangs or or like the transit congress right now where children are being mutilated, yeah, and I feel a lot of indication now that you're, seeing the mia for starter case alison bailey case the tavistock getting shutting down, for you know, being one of the first people in our space and all the feminists are going to get pissed off now because they've been talking about it for years, but in terms of podcast us you who come from all backgrounds,

I mean we talked on rogan about how scary it was to talk to posey yeah, but I feel we were intellectually honest. In that moment we challenged to as best we could to try and save our careers. Yet we couldn't and we like well she's telling you notion would she sang makes sense to me? I'm not gonna. Pretend is not true. And we carried on, and we continue to explore that issue and continue to highlight that issue. as you and I genuinely care about the children who are who are finding themselves in that position and that's why it's so important that we go back yeah and it's why it's so important that we we will come to america. We will spend time in america, but at it's heart it will always be. A british show hosted by two british guys is weak because we call you again Replace me might be exactly, but we can't pretend to be anything else to show works because we're honest, rogan door open. Some wrong and went for foreign. A bow is because, if you put in

to be someone else. No one's that good, an actor that you can improvised for four and a bit hours near the mosque is guinness. If I don't have a tendency to how small you just kong, and thus will you get with our sisters who we are so for me this has been a joy. I love america, but we've always got to continue to look at the world through a british lens. It's shit yeah there we go, or I meant well before we go. I I think I you know is in the spirit of gratitude. Yeah we've said granted, you know our gratitude to our supporters and I do.

I really really appreciate them so much yeah. You know I thought we were going to go for the Jesus thing to want to thank Jesus. Thank Jesus yeah. Well, actually, I wanted to thank you because, and we've been through a lot together. Yeah yeah, we have you, know yeah. This was planned, guys know we're really happy here. We have man, oh you on case, it's easy when you're watching the other side that using the because when I go to shit, if our differences, but I'd always now that you ve got my back, and you know the thing in life is very few. People have actually got your back As you know, people who say- and this at all

people who acts like it, but the moment the shit. It's a fan, I swing. You know you ve got a friend yeah, so I really appreciate your man. I appreciate you to him. Will you marry me no garden Sir ok. us must remain the almighty.

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