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the. Hence it is classified as an endangered missing person has been missing since July. Fourth, nineteen. Ninety nine, She was last seen by her family and friends in our home town of travellers. Rest south carolina brook

was born in nineteen. Seventy nine at the time of her disappearance broke was twenty years old. She is a caucasian female and is described as five foot four inches tall. A hundred and four pounds hansen has blonde hair and brown eyes. Her ears are pierced and at the time of her disappearance, her hair was died. Brown Broke Hansen, smoked, marlboros cigarettes and typically she did not wear make up. Her nickname is broken when last see broke was wearing a tan tank top in dark green shorts. She wore black sandals us we're watch on her left wrist and a silver bracelet on her right risk. The circumstances of her disappearances, this it was ninety. Ninety, nine and travellers rest south carolina brook

Hence, in twenty years, old lived with her family on July third broke hosted a party with several friends during the evening hours People were coming and going from the hansen home early. The next day at two, a m on the fourth of July, brooks parents returned home. They had been added town, having gone to a concert and charlotte north airliner. When they exhausted parents arrived home, they found broke sitting on the front porch of their home. She, too look tired but mostly looked upset, broke, told her and said she and her boyfriend sean had a disagreement earlier that night. This was not an uncommon occurrence. Can sean regularly disagreed and regularly gotten to verbal altercations. She told parents, if she was going to take a walk down too, will assist store on the corner of hawkins road in points set highway. She smoked marlborough

and she needed to buy a pack of cigarettes at approximately to twenty eight m briskly hansen left her home. She was seen walking along Henderson, DR making her way to the store wearing a tan tank top in dark green shorts. store is about two blocks from her home. She reported He left a note to her boyfriend that red follow me. If you care hence in never returned home. Her family would never hear from her again then in two thousand for someone using the name. Brook Hansen took out a student loan in enrolled at columbia, university

york city hester Elisabeth reed was born in nineteen. Seventy eight in the tiny town of towns in montana, was the youngest of nine children. Esters parents are earnest in florence reed and separated in the early nineties nineties and when this happened asked her. She move with her mother to the seattle washington area. Esther dropped out of high school and nineteen, five in three years later, he ninety eight, sadly, her mother florence died of cancer after The passing of her mother esther to started to get into trouble. She stole a purse and she was,

the items in the stolen purse for her own. You know whenever she wanted to do with them. This was a dead it or credit card and a cheque book. So basically stealing money in october of nineteen ninety nine she pled guilty to possession of stolen property, and shortly after Esther reed disappeared. So cap she's a young adults at this time, she's over the age of eighteen and she takes off and she she's out on our own she's able to do that. She's has the freedom to do so, but She is missing while her family thinks it she is missing. You showed me the square article the other day, the showed that there was some thought this she might have been a victim the green river killer, who was still unknown at that time and running in the seattle area, who was killing working girls

and runaways yes, so there was a victim that they weren't able to identify and instantly they thought, while this is probably this esther Rien, as went missing from seattle, there was some resemblance between the body that was found in esther read well, she was not a victim of the green river. Killer. In fact she was alive and she was well. She was rather than missing, we should say she was on the run, would be more appropriate. I believe, So, while she's on the hoochie on run from I dont know it it's it seems weird she had some. She had some. Troubles in seattle, washington. It also sounds I she was a bit a strange from her family as well. Maybe the run from every one. And I would also include maybe herself, the real esther read my while she is missing she would

soon the identities of other people, and she often told friends that she supported herself as a professional chess player winning tournaments for money, one of them aliases. The esther red used was natalie fisher and I'm certain of what crimes were committed or why she or how she obtained the name and identity of Natalie fisher, but something what her change. That, because in two thousand and one on, I wonder if she used on the name nellie fisher because of Bobby fisher, the chess player- interesting. I never put that together, but two thousand and one she changed her name again. This time assume the identity of one natalie. Bowman still used this identity to unroll into California state university and she fits as a college student. No one had any reason to believe that this Natalie bowman was any one.

Sir? Wasn't who she said she was yeah cause won't most diamond go on the run? They don't and rwanda college reflects well while attending this car Esther red, posing as this now beaumont. She joined the schools debate team. She with her aim competed in several tournaments, then she was admitted to harvard university. This is you're having reaching she reached out to war, the real Natalie bowman's former professors she at this teacher, who was in south america at the time to write a letter of recommendation which then helped her to get into harvard university, but again something must have happened here, captain because we see a shift one more time and this would be Two thousand and three esther red started using the identity of brook Hansen

if the missing young woman from travelers rest south carolina. While I think she started using this name or she came up with this idea cause when she went to transfer when she went to get into this next school. She actually had to use some of the professors from cal state and to give her recommendations, but she had explained to the hey, you can use this name. I need you to use this other name. You can't use natalie, bowman's name. I needed to use this other name why Kurth excuse to these professors were was while ambient stock by an ex boyfriend, and I don't want him to find. Now that I'm leaving town I'm going to another college on the other side of the country. This is my escape

And I'm going to better myself after the escape. I can't let him chase me there right, but these are college. Professors means whoa the don't be such a dummy. I mean I caught a college girl comes to you. She has this story about why she's going to be using a different name, that's a red flag right! You should not be gone along with this. You should not be riding recommendations for somebody with a fictitious name You do not know what she's going to use that recommendation for a there could be a real person out there with that name, so it it. It baffles me that these professors and and I'm just going to speculate that I wonder if there was a more in depth relationship between her and this professor for him to go ahead and use his name to you I mean. Basically, it's it's fraud could have been there could have been, or he might have COD

to her plan or or or thought something fish was going on, because we do see heard then change her idea. one more time. So maybe she thought that, don't you know they were onto her. Then somebody had figured out what was going on. It was two thousand and three, that she started using this identity of brook Hansen and its belief, that she found broke hansen story on the internet. You know she's a missing woman. The two were roughly the same age, so I'm guessing red figures, this of This is an easy one to to pull off, because we're going to look about the same age. They don't look anything alike, but read figures out to obtain the missing woman's social security number and, along with this she's using brooks name birthday and other information, she receives or heard YE d or a g d for brook hansen.

So using this new identity, she takes the essay t scoring a fourteen hundred and with her new credentials, she applies to colombia, diversity. What did the score on yours? I scored a twenty six hundred. Even take the s, a twenty six. so she is at this very prestigious college for quite some time. yeah she's fitting in there she is getting good grades, maintaining good grades. She was during in psychology, I believe in taking some criminal justice classes type classes. and she was getting. I think, a three point, two gpa. Doesn't she didn't really want, but also at the same time, she's take student loans. She's, I think, applying for credit card, so what's happening is we're getting some hits on burke hansen, the missing girl again, some hits on her

The souls hurting number yeah in she she took out. Over one hundred thousand dollars and student loans. She ran up credit card debt and I couldn't find like a number on the credit card dead. I could neither they were, they were not outright with that. But here's the other thing, though, captain it's possible. That she might have been using more than one identity at a time but yeah. You know so during this she's racking up debt for Brooke hansen, but at the same time she could be racking up debt under fixed. his names or other real people's names. During this time, two. She she even obtained a passport which is not the easy thing to do. I tell you what I have. I have a passport. You have a passport people out there with passports Even when you are who you say you are even when you have your real information is still not easy to get a passport, so I think

it's amazing to me. She was able to forge this passport deal, but also during time captain she's on several dating sites. Don't know which ones it. I think E harmony and one of the other one acts dot com, yeah nodes, self, never sign up for mass dot com or sign up for EU harmony, out there that are used in people's faith in fake names. There's people out there with fake name trend Honey, I found an issue of the cap, the sheer so she's, also dating guys from west point at the during her time in college. Yeah, multiple guys from west point in two thousand and six esther using the name. Brook hansen was seeking employment. She applies for a job. well, the person in charge of hiring did in internet, sir.

Of the name on the application, this being, of course, brook Hansen's name. This woman finds a website. A missing persons site which revealed that broke hansen was in fact a missing person from south carolina, so the police in south carolina are contacted and they then learn the new york city police. Now, let's go through this a little bit captain, because the way that this goes down this woman, who is she's flipping through applications, look for somebody to hire, decide she's, gonna, do quick internet search weave. Some of us have been there before you know. I was doing one thing the last year. Well, maybe two years ago now, but I did like a quick facebook search of a few too applicants that we had an one of em. The guy was like smoking, a joint on his facebook page to hear like.

You know another wrong with it, but you know you might want to that guy I mean you might want to hang out with that guy on the weekend, but might not want to hire hiram for a job right right if he well, if he's so brilliant that he puts that picture on baseball right, what other brilliant feats, as is he a capable of so she finds this? Did this person this applicant name is a missing person and on the website, there's a picture. Of brook Hansen and she's going wait a second, I'm sure her first was probably I've located a missing person, and then He sees the picture and she's like wait a second. These two do not look like one another. The person that came in and applied for a job does not look like the person I'm seeing on this website.

Send our assent, maybe has you'd also think that may be. The person would think, while this is just a different right now for cancer and right that, but they share the same birth date. I think I think, there's probably enough red flags that went up. I dont know what information she would have put on that application. That's true, so anyway, what she does. She contacts the the local police where this broke hansen went missing from and they get in contact with the family with with broken since family. And this to me, this is the sad part of the case. extremely said, we have this young woman who goes missing she's twenty years old at the time that she goes missing. She would gone for what about seven years by this time? So the fan? leap. I would imagine most the leads dried up a long time ago before this,

pops up seven years later. It basically at this point in other case, was cold and there was no new leads, no new information for a long time. So the fact that neither again this call, well now. Law enforcement involve law enforcement, just look into an initial is like well now we have all these hits on her social security. You know number, so is it possible that alive and starting a new life right did walked away on her own and now she's attending college up up north well, what they do is the new york city police get involved as well, and there talking to this person claiming to be broke, hansen and fact, esther red sticks to our guns and says I am Brooke Hansen and I leave all my own. I didn't want to live there anymore. I decided to move at a state.

I'm up here in new york city, bettering my life going to college, and no, I don't want any contact with my family right, but it's like a george costanza. He says It's only a lie. If you believe it's a lie: yeah well, then the police have to hit here's the issue. Ok, it's it's a strange boat to be in, but now how they have to either prove this person isn't who she says she is or the person has to prove she is who she says. She is right and so they get some questions from the family. I believe it was. The ant came up with a bunch of a list of questions and said: hey ask her this stuff, and here's the answers to it, but see many of these. She gets right yeah. But it's like weird stuff, like what's your uncle's, a nickname stuff like that again who's, your brother's best friend, it's it's things that are a little complicated in.

my opinion? These are these requests is that I think you would have to not only have it you'd have to be the person you would have to well you and you would have to have life experiences as this person in that specific family right, but the crazy thing is She gets submitted this list of questions and they come back and say well She got a lot of em right, she got a lot of not all of em, but she got a lot of them right. I wonder if she used some kind of conversation, psychology where she was the kind of manipulating the situation of the conversation with the police officers to get the right answers or to get it so they blew that she was correct. I think here probably onto something there. We what we have to keep in mind here is one she's, not a mine reader, into she's blah. We don't know that for sure, but she is a con artist right

not only a con artist, but someone that has trained in school herself for many years doing. This should, by this point, she's up soon she's taken on at least three identities that we know of she's all though, before she was stealing identities? She was stealing things like credit cards, checkbooks also in a form, that's another form of stealing someone's identity. You're. Just not saying that you're, just going off of trust me I'm this person with a credit card. I'm this person with this check book, said probably found herself throughout the there's a many conversations with many different people, not law enforcement, but people that say hey. You know like me, and you hang out right now if I saw a dry when you questions- and we just met each other six months ago- he's learning how to lie. from people in and get through probably be that been many awkward. Her uncovered

situations that she's found herself in just the people around her at that time. Don't realize this lined all probably her demeanour as well, she's, also good it you know being under that. stress and under that he have people asking questions and she's kinda? Not you know used to this, so she's just going to act like nope no big deal so then law enforcement is going to go while based off her body language based off her demeanor. She didn't seem like she was blind to us because that's how good of a con artist she was, but also think that it helped her being a female, because I I would bet money that these law enforcement officers were more male. And they were trying to see the good in her yell for thy again. If it's, I watch her nickname of your uncle. If the answer is fred, I don't think she got the answer right, sane fred, I mean unless she's pulled these

you know crazy answers that are out of thin air. Well, in you know, if most people who end up being a police officer or detective whether you are male or female. You grow wanting to help others in and protect others. That's why a lot of those people go into that field. She could have We already heard the story once of I'm being stalked. Moving to the other the country, and I'm gonna go to harvard to get away from this crazy ex boyfriend. Maybe she played down scared young woman card again to these people that, naturally, probably want to protect and servant and keep her safe and keep other safe. By saying, look, anne Brooke Hanson, and I left there for a good reason, and this is why- and this is why I have not reached out to my family. This is why I've been up here. These miles away for all these years,

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I don't get around. She gets a lot of the questions right that the family submitted. However, she can't get around the fact that she does not look like Brooke henson yeah, that's kind of a problem. So the police are reaching out to the family and their saying look. She got a lot of these questions right, but she does not. look anything like your missing daughter, your missing loved one right and I think they actually take a picture of her and send it to the family and yeah and the family is like wow that doesn't look like her, but again seven years has passed so you you know. I think they needed to make sure you know, and- and that's so sad to me, because the this family has their hopes up maybe just ran off and started a new life well, and so the police are going to tell her that hey look. This is all very simple. This is all very easy. All we need you to do is take a dna tests,

and this will prove you are who you say you are, and you can go back to living your life in and we will leave you alone. Make mistake care, though, while she agrees that take the test right, the mistake as they're gonna wait. You know another day, yeah we'll take the test. the morning. Well, what happens is she's planning her escape route as soon as she agrees to this dna test and she didn't, this is not when to be like she moves her entire apartment in the middle of the night, I believe she said she took like a change of clothes and her dog like like the the one thing she couldn't live without ass. She got added dodge bonci proudly, but that dog on credit see somebody else's credit. So she agrees

this test in what what she did. That was very interesting here captain when she fled she decided to take her dog and she took her tooth brush her hair brushes her combs she took things that they probably would have used or tested for dna does, be who she was actually was right when she, when asked to read, fled new york city, she relocated to Chicago. In there she changed her identity to jennifer myers after she fled. She was placed on the united states secret service, ten most wanted. fugitives list now, but now this name that she's going to go with jennifer meyers, hmm. This is actually going to be. I think the first name that she ever does makes up all the other people that she was gone by before were real people, real people with established identities, and it were the other p Who were you able to figure out why she chose the

name's, natalie fisher, Natalie bowman. Now I I think some of it was just Google searches. Ok, within these people were alive and well, and she just used their identities yeah, while some of the people she knew like back back in seattle, the stuff she got in trouble for it was the sister of a guy she dated and then, but I think, a lot of the other people that she were she was using was just missing persons, which is again it's like that's my issue with this whole thing. You know it's like. I think she thought that it's not hurting anybody right, but it is because these people, or possibly victims of crime, these missing people, we we don't know what happened to him, so they could have

I have been murdered and we just haven't found their bodies and they could be put into some kind of sex trafficking, ring n, and so there there are victims there, they're missing people, but they're missing victims and you're. Then victimizing them again, in an their families right. So the thing here is I. I was curious to see how she came up with this. We know she came up with the name for Brooke henson, because she she looked at it up on the internet and found this girl. That was missing. That was roughly her same age, and I had heard some stories and in read some stories over the years that some people that wanted to take on a new identity would this sounds crazy, but they would find somebody that was. Had recently passed away right and use their identity, so she has fled new york city and she relocated to Chicago now, there's some debate over

why she went to Chicago. I guess there is an ex boyfriend of hers lived there. There was some question if, if she had contacted here and if he knew her whereabouts watson was aiding and abetting her now and while in what's in arrests in here to which we haven't really touch upon, we talked about how that she had these boyfriends from west point and and boyfriends from basically all over. She had a lot of on line relationships goin and there is actually a graduate from west point that sent her money, so she was getting. Not only was she taking credit cards and in an reckon up those bills, but she is also getting different guys that she had some kind of online relationship with to send her money well, and she never worked

You know she didn't need to because she's using all these other people's faith, credit cards ran in you know there buying things off of this the credit cards, and then you get a little stipend with your student loan. I would imagine so that's that's a good rule It's a good identity to steal or thing to fake anyway, but of the friends were put no weird situate and because they are being interviewed by police and they're gone, hey but none of you know this, how did it, none of you know that she wasn't who she said she was. She didn't have a job was anything that tipped you off and their response to the job thing was low, She lied to us just like she, like everybody else when she told us that she one these chess tournaments, from time to time and when she won them. It was like these high stakes, poker tournaments it c on tv, there's all large pay out and walking

live off of a large pay out for some time and I had a good buddies dad that actually did this, who go to vegas and played these tournaments in the pay out, wasn't huge, but sometimes it could be five thousand ten thousand dollars. Well, when, if your college student, five thousand ten thousand dollars, it's huge, so you know it's also weird world where it's like it's kind of it's kind of like a hard job. You know people people go out, and you know if somebody said to YO why go play in these chess tournaments. You've never heard a chess chest tournament army might a herd of one, but you have no clue what the person makes right and just like If some ashley I, while you were, you, do for a living eager podcast. Now they have no, it's like you can either make zero dollars or you can make a ton of money. So I think there was a perfect ruse because its

It's something that people would go, oh well. I could see how you'd make money by. I don't know anything about it and they're not going to take the time to do the research to figure that out I want to question her intentions here. Captain because I wondered the the passport thing seems very interesting to me, because it seems very risky and I think Esther reed is a smart enough individual did she probably wouldn't do something that risky unless she really had a plan. I think cheap intended to use that sport. I wonder: look she was two years in to her college career, let's say: at columbia, university she's to you, in that I wonder if wins, graduated, the plan was to move overseas somewhere, while they had a couple of guys that she was seen and again, I d

of this was in person or just on line from the gas it she seen from west point that were station overseas like germany, Oh, what was weird was was so when she went missing and shoe relocated to Chicago well, developed and all this stuff in our apartment that she left behind in one of these stains vote they're going to find his tons of records of instant message and chat back and forth with some of these individuals as strange because, in the reason why she got on the most wanted lists will it was at the sea. I asked the secret service okay and the, but the re one of the reasons. Why was because she's having these chats back and forth with these west point graduates or west point students and the questioning, you know how? How was your day x, a n

ass, always pretty good. What did you guys go over? We went over a strategic in a war plans or winner and then should be asking. Was this real? It are these real plans. Are these fake plans? You know, and she would should almost grilled these guys as if she's trying to get some of top secret information from them well, and I think in one of the communiques back and forth, she said that she said she, I think she even said I'm a spy, like kind of jokingly, said or I might be, a secret agent or special agent- something like that and then, while she might be adduced they have to wonder, though, if she isn't brook Hansen one? Who is she to? Why? Is she pretending to be broken in watched? What is she here doing as there is this part of a bigger picture that we're not understanding?

The other thing that we are too is you have to wonder, and I no law enforcement did Andy investigated this, but you have to Did she have something to do with brook hansen disappearance? Now you know, did she did she do something this young woman to take her identity and to assume that identity right. So now, however, in Chicago and she's going by jennifer he went by jennifer myers in chicago in this case has a big tie into a previous case that we have come This is the lane bryant case and you ask, while how does ty into bullying brand case well, on February. Third, Two thousand and eight intently park illinois, esther reed, was captured by the part police who, coincidentally, were searching the entire area for a gun man who had shot and killed five women at the lane. Bryanston that more all right. So are you dive

that a little more ok, so the the lane bryant store it was these women were taken hostage in the gunman he he was robbing the store and he killed the women that he took hostage. XO police. They find out about this situation very quickly because one of the hostages called nine one one, this gunmen fleas, so They are searching the immediate area with with everybody you can think of that holding other law enforcement agencies to help them go through this area in search everything their searching stores, restaurants, parking lot, you name it they're looking for this guy, they think he probably fled, didn't get very far away and was just ducking and hiding some.

when one of the thoughts was that this individual was possibly from another state. So long for judgment was going around to the different hotels and looking for cars that had license plates from different states where they come across as to reads: com, yes, and then now they gotta go okay. Now we got figure out who has his car, and so then they questioned her. Yes, esther reed's car was in a sleep in a motel parking lot, which is the area of where this shooting took place. Where I laugh because that's where we stayed the night before we went to a crime con, we stayed in asleep end ass. Her red later said that, on that day, she had got some lunch and she went back to the room fell asleep and she woke up to a knock, her hotel room door, this federal marshals and the police

knocked on her door at the sleep in hotel and asked her for her. I d be a thought, these, then noticed that the idea she handed them had been flagged by the secret service. So she was gone gin and she was transported to the police station for further questioning where she can armed. Her real name was esther reed. Ass to read was on the run for two and a half years. This is before being arrested in chicago or the timely park in the greater chicago area right she was charge, with male and wire fraud. Possession of false kennedy, documentation and identity theft. In august she pled guilty to. ro fraud and identity theft charges in february of thousand and nine she was sentenced to four years in prison as to register did that she never meant to harm anyone and only took him and identity to rise above a painful past authorities believe

she is an opportunist who didn't actually anything to do with Hansen's disappearance. They investigated that for quite some time. I ice all a news broadcasts from there was- year and a half after they had arrested esther red saying that they were still kind of looking into if there was any possibility that she had anything to do with the disappearance of breast cancer so eventually esther readers extradited to south carolina where she was tried on four felony charges she faced. This is: where gets weird she faced a potential sentence of forty seven years, forty seven years in prison, she fled guilty and was sentenced to fifty one months in federal prayers. Fifty. So I somehow they went from forty seven years to fit de one months in prison in mind you, she Two I dont have the

the real name of this prison, but she went to a prison in west virginia or what The prison usinor fake, alias it was. This point has been nicknamed camp cupcake I think this is where Martha Stewart served sometimes so it's kind of answer. I went to elementary school, but here's here's the possible tie it to the lane by it. It's it's weird. It's it's either huge coincidence that she happened to be in their area or let's go down this road for a second here captain? Let's think it lets think sighed, the box and in thinking hypothetical, so because of multiple fraudulent identities asked reed could not risk getting a job. earning money the responsible way right. That's what got her caught the last time right. Instead, She used- and we know this to be to be fact and said she used her high intelligence in her.

Her mind to forge fake clothing, store receipts and use them to turn items for more than what they were worth what she had actually paid for in the first place. Yet so what you should do is go into a store. Let's say the item was one hundred dollars. She would have a get a you know, a coupon for sixty percent off seventy five percent off whatever big, big sale, and so she would buy that item and then she would go to a different store and return that item, but basically, full price for it. She did this a lot. She caught some of the biggest stores in the? U s, and probably pocketed thousands and thousands of dollars now on the day of the murders at lane. Bryant lay I was having a sale, nine dollar. Ninety nine cent sail it would have been a perfect situation for heard about some brandname clothing at a low price and then forged the receipts to return them added. Different lane bryant store later for profit so,

the other. Weird thing to captain is shortly after the lane: bryant killings. There was a very Oh, that was released to ask people if they could recognise a small black suv and a black sudan or dark colored sudan after the capture of esther read the police. This was where they, then they saw only request, information on the black ass, you ve, not the sudan, esther red owned, a dark, colored sudan, that's the Michael that they found in the parking lot at the sleep n. It was I leave either a dark, green or dark blue sudan. So it look similar to the one scene in the lane. Bryant parking lot of them that they have to put into play here is that you're talkin bout execution of multiple women and when I kind of think of how they came in to lane bryant took control of

as for red in there and did she have somebody possibly some that she was seen from west point. That would have some kind of knowledge on how to take over situation and then, when things when you know awry than they decided to Martin murdered these victims. Ah, I think it's not crazy to quit, in that. If she was in fact the driver of the dark, colored sedan, she never entered the lane, bryant store that driver. Never did. We know that to be fact, however, the dark colored sudan in the black suv, which its believed that the assailant left in the black. If suv they left the parking lot almost at the exact same time, so here's what you got a question. Was she the look out. Man was she. the brains behind this operation, or at the very least, there's also possibility. She had no idea that this was going

on that there were hostages being taken. There was a robbery and progress at the lane, bryant store did she was planning on hitting up for this coupon day, for nine ninety nine sale, but was she the driver of the dark colored vehicle. She stumble on this crime. That's developing an she hears the sirens. This nine one was called police were in rout before the before the assailant left the building does here the sirens and decide that she's going to flee, and what did she see before? She fled the scene, because you have to wonder how does one get from forty seven years facing forty seven years in prison to only receiving fifty one months and on top of that she plead guilty to cry but she stated I'm not. to go into detail about these crops. She pled guilty to the charges.

But she's not going to go into details about what crime she committed. While she was on the run while she was assuming other people's identities. Why? I also ass a thing there's by a bunch, more charges that they could a charge her with. If she would have spoke up about him and said well, actually I did those, but there's bunch, you probably don't know about, and just like you said how many densities which she still in at one time to live one life had somebody else, but to your point, did she see something? and did you use that as a bargaining chip to lessen her sentence? The crazy thing, though, here captain it lets say that is the truth, let or at the very least, let's say that she saw something whether she for a bargaining chip or not. I don't know, but let's say she saw something. Esther red is, is manipulative, she's, very secretive. She enjoys keeping see obviously, she's caught many people over the years, and

he's been in many situations where she's proven, at least more cunning are smarter than than some other people chasing her or around her at the time. I have to wonder if she was there near the lane, bryant store, didn't, have anything to do with the actual crime itself, but saw something you have to wonder what she hold back. This information is there a chance that she didn't tell police something that she knows it. ass. She did need a bargaining chip later right. So Mr Reid, as we said she pled guilty to these charges. She ends of getting fifty one months in camp cupcake She served her time and she was released in october of two thousand and eleven she's out she's, a free woman. Now, however, the hence in fact

they still has no answers as to where their daughter is. They have this woman who stole her identity. She's been missing now for almost twenty years and thank you? No esther red story, we're not the first to tell it, but the thing that is a bit the thing that really gets to me- and I know, got to you as well captain is it when people tell the story of esther read of this con woman they mention that broke. Hansen's identity was stolen, but they don't talk a lot about burke. Hence, and they don't talk about. You know, let's solve her case, you know this cases solved this esther red business is done with let's solve brook hansen's case, and so I thought that that we both thought. That's why it would be important to give these circumstances of of her disappearance and some things notes regarding the investigation itself. The police work this pretty hard down there and I'll carolina now Hansen's

boyfriend remember. We said that she had left him a note. They had some kind of disagreement that night she left. I know there is a lot people that speculate that he may have followed her, that he may have went after her and had something to do with their disappearance as ported, they had a volatile relationship and he and his friend the boyfriend in his friend report italy would not cooperate with the investigation into her disappearance and our boys same as sean. Surely this was the boyfriend at the time of her disappearance and he wrote Thirdly, does have a criminal record for some drug related offences and assaults. However, he, has never been named as a suspect in brooks disappearance is it'd, be noted, however, that many of the people and hansen's life this would be some of her friends at I'm reportedly were involved in criminal activity, not just the boyfriend right,

berkeley. Hansen's loved ones stated that it is extra molly uncharacteristic of her to leave without any type of warning. Her family said that authorities did not begin a search of the area until three weeks after her disappearance, investigators reportedly believed that hansen left on her own accord and expected her to return. Show lee afterwards, but obviously now they suspect foul play her family too, Bribes, her as a fun, loving woman who enjoyed hiking, and being outdoors she did drop out a high school in the tenth grade that would why asked her red had to get the g d before going off to college, but investigators believe Hansen was most likely merle sadly, and they have a suspect in her disappearance, but there has now or been enough evidence to charge this individual, the loved ones abruptly Hansen have lived for over eighteen years, a nightmare

now there are so many families out there that have lived with out their loved one. For years than they did with them and unless broke his brought home Soon, her family will tragically join that group. All it takes to close a missing persons case and bring someone home is a tip. Only the public can bring tips in aids to the investigator someone or some ones may know something about brook where she is or what happened to her and even a small tipp can make a huge difference. If you have any information at all about brook Lee hansen, please contact the travelers rest police department at eight six four tooth, ray crime or you can contact the south carolina law enforcement division at eight zero. Three, seven, three, seven, nine thousand

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