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the We ve all seen the movies about con man, scam, artist and the smooth talking types, someone quick to play you for the fool someone in it for the long game. The slow play. Sometimes they manage to be so good that they leave the car. Scratching their heads after the grifters skips town. with everyone's money. But those are the movies. Just entertainment

They require a suspension of disbelief. There is a real life case that makes those huh would scam artist, look like amateurs in this case the con man, fools almighty fbi time. time again. This man turned on his friends, use the feds to keep him out of prison. In any one got to closer, knew too much with total disregard. for human life or relationships he disposed of them. Just how twisted was this man And what do we really know about his murders or motives? This it's true crime garage. This is the case.

Scotland camp in two thousand and five scotland Kimball received his punishment for theft in four fleeing. This is, for the time he's. Wit from the montana prison release stole money and a truck from the gas station that he was working at now? He played guilty, but again he allowed to go free on supervised release, just how supervised was this release. Well, that depends on whether you think fraud.

in murder are permissible activities while on supervised release, things started to fall apart for Lori and Scott, the police were called to a domestic altercation, at scott lorries house and they arrested someone for assault. Surprise. It was lord. According to lorry Scott called top some reported that she threatened to kill him and through a vacuum at him, police even issued scott, a restraining order protecting him from his wife laurie was arrested again in august for violating de restraining order. She believes this I invented the whole thing, invented the whole story to get rid of her so that he could bring in his new girlfriend. This is melissa. Anderson get her out of the also bring Melissa in

as you may recall, Scott had told the fbi b, Jennifer markham, who missing that she went to new york to kill jason price at her boyfriend's request: he then later says that price heads strangled, jennifer, Markham and Scott. Remember. Claims to have even seen photographs of the body so agents. They go to speak with jason price. He has a completely different story, prize. Surprise there. He co. Not only did he not kill jennifer markham, but he says that he actually suspects that Scott would be involved in the disappearance of jennifer and Steve Anas he's the boyfriend. Of jennifer marcum that that scott new in prison

he denies that he ever involved Jennifer and any of his illegal activities. Scott seem like, and we suggested this last week, captain sounds like he made up the entire story we want to get him out of prison to it up getting him involved with Jennifer markham, who is now missing and he Pointing the finger at other people, while we know scott is a liar, but also think scott tendency when he was in the cell with this individual he sees jennifer, marcum and she's very attractive and so he's smitten meyer, and he wants to get to know where he wants her for. himself well and remember: he is put in charge of keeping an eye on Jennifer markham because he told the feds that there, his whole murder for hire plot. That's going on in it

We need to keep an eye on her. She is missing now so they're still trying to figure out. Can we trust this guy who's telling us this Maybe maybe he is on the up and up and he is actually helping us when somebody's in jail for fraudulent charges. This. This is your red flag from the beginning. You might have this guy be an informant for you, but you might have to track him very closely because at him, lying and skinny, and people as what landed him in to provide he's a he's, a known liar, known scammer, in it's kind of like it's almost like they forgot about that. You got involved with him and now you, we're having a hard time, believing that he could possibly be lying to you right. So what interesting, though remember they did make him, take a polygraph test to try to figure out

Is he on the up and up? Is he telling them the truth or what at least scott believes to be the truth, and he passed that polygraph that in regards strictly to the disappearance of jennifer markham. Now, therefore, sing all that behaviour again specially after they speak with Steve anas, and they speak with J jason price, so they want to give Scott another. The f b I decided to make scott take another lie: detector test when questioned thou Jennifer Markham this time. His answers showed deception. Right now, Scott around the same time he moves into a rental house. After the whole cattle ranch thing seemed to be a fail. He paid, for the rental this with checks, the bouncing kind of course, then late, two thousand and five scott wrecked his jeep and collected ten

thousand seven hundred and ninety nine dollars and sixteen cents in insurance money Then, two weeks later, Scott reported to the lofi p d, that his trailer remember the one that he stole. Well, he reported somewhat stole it from him and for this he collected An thousand dollars in insurance money, meanwhile, ridiculous, scott had his girlfriend melissa Anderson use her name and her identification to purchase a winchester rifle at walmart and then give it to him. Remember because of his past charges and convictions he is not allowed to possess a firearm. It's after he gets the guy

from the new girlfriend that he decides, I no longer need you and he ditches melissa this time for good. Now, let's get back to jennifer marcum who's missing. F. I entered her name as a missing person in the national crime information center database law enforcement agencies were under sure from general jennifer's family to find her jennifer was a dancer who were was involved with a known and convicted drug dealer, but she had who loved her very much and loved her little boy, despondent that she was missing and frustrated at the lack of interest from the fbi. Her father bob Markham aspect, body of his to run his daughters named through a national criminal database, hoping that may be

you know, maybe she was in jail somewhere or even in witness protection somewhere. This search alerted agent flat Remember, he's the one who had been working with scott campbell agents, laugh, contacts bob and told that they could not find jennifer marcum that she's she's missing, and he actually said that if it appears that quote, she just dropped off. The map was not really clear. What happened to her child either Well, the the child is out, I believe, with the parents with her parents- okay, so they're raising her child correct So now we have schlafly tells bob that a man was in possession of jennifer's furniture. Remember she moved in temporarily, very briefly with scott campbell. Now he

does not mention scots campbells name when he gives her this information, but he does give bob a phone number of the man who has jennifer's furniture and when he hands it over when he has phone number captain. He says bob when you call this number ask for a guy named Joe snitch, so bob in his ex wife, which is jennifer's mom Mary willis is her name. They up a meeting with this man with Joe snitch a k, a we know to be scott Kimball, deuce kimball. They told scott kimball going under the name of Joe snitch. else bob and marry that jennifer was murdered and he knew who died. And even where her body could be located and how it happened. Yeah he offered to take them to her body, but he says the somewhere. Far away and Joe snitch gave them

a very bad feeling when they met so immediately the to decline. They didn't want to any more. I was alone are not gloss over this too much there at a park that at a park right And when they meet at that park some now I can show you everything I can. I can tell you everything, but. But the reason why he can't he can't actually verbally say right because he it's classified information. This is the this is what was confusing to me at first like, why would he be able to show them, but not tell him. but his his ruse is that this is classified information. So I'd get in big trouble, but I can show you they go back to their hotel and there contemplating their spoils her mother is.

I want to go up in these mountains. I want him to show me and her ex husband saying you're going to die. If you do this, he's probably going to kill you Ah- and her statement was at least she would know- I might kappa what would knowing matter if seconds later, you're you're dead, and again they don't know the history of sky he's such a liar. Is he gone. when Tom, the correct information, but what a strange thing for somebody to tell you Especially somebody that you think is a part of law enforcement, well, an somebody that gave you a bad enough vibe that you didn't want to go up into the mountains with them or two to this place. It he says, is somewhere far way right. So the

we're gloss over that fact. Let's get into that a little more and- Weird move, as you stated, scott says, to marry no mind you she's in her own hotel room. Let me come over your hotel room that night and I will straight you how jennifer was killed. You know what what. They play a little role playing and act. This thing out right, of course, Mary declines, but scott shows up at marries hotel room anyway. That night and she very wisely does not let him in to the room. Now Much later this is much later down the timeline. But I want to point it out: here, so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle police, actually found what would be looked to be like a contract that was drawn up of sorts right. This when they were going through some of things now. The contract air quotes is dated with the

Wait of that night that same night, the scott shows up to the hotel room to, hotel room, saying I can demonstrate for you how your daughter was killed. This contract, of course, is intended be between Mary and Joe Scott or Joe snitch. The contract. According to the wording allowed scott to bind And possibly even have sex with mary. Mary would have been signing off for consent to as the contract states and quote, I am willing to participate and I expect to engage in bondage and sexual activity, and quote this morning. For you, the according to the daily camera, now both pay I came away from this certain that they had just left, into the eyes of their daughter's killer. Two weeks, After all of this weird shit,

Mary willis recorded a phone conversation with Scott again referring to him as Joe. You heard some of that call at the start of the show last week now on, the call me demanded to know more about jennifer but refuse to play Joe snitch. game where she would not sign the sex contract or allow scott to damage, great how her daughter was killed, says quote you Had your chance, this is was what scott responds with you had your chance and then he proposed. that mary hire an escort on whom he could damage straight the murder in front of her, quote I'll. Show you exactly what happened and you can just be a bystander. He said now, Mary said She wanted a christian burial. She tells Joe stitch. I want christian burial for jennifer and then

He responds with quote your My daughter means every I'm sorry. She says my daughter means everything to me to which Joe snitch response quote. You know what I saw how much she meant to you when you Let me into your hotel room. and I want to apologize captain because I'm kind of a little jumbled here because this guy is using so many different name. You know scott Lee kimball he's Joe Scott he's Joe snitch, but keep in mind, this is all the same guy, so damn bunch of deuces and one canal, Joe snatch, worn marry that he could just appear. He said his handler at the fbi. Again, agents laugh would be awesome. Get to move him to hide him or do whatever, and she should that in mind. He also said that

since last, dictated exactly what he could say and what he was not allowed to say about the case and saying that he, can't say much and that's that's going to what you said there where he's like. I can act it out, but I can't tell you which makes the stupid. Even in a bizarro world. It makes zero sense, but we need to keep on two points. Here is: what is one? We have this contract, but you said the six contract. And then we also have them all. You don't want to role play with me. Let's hire escort, Ro play with her again. The the sex part is important, because I believe, with some of these murders that they were sexually motivated and and will get into. It'd be why he confesses to some crimes and why he doesn't confess to other crimes later right- and I mean these mary,

I've been in danger just for knowing what she knew or for contacting this man that we know to be a dangerous man, but she is uncertain of that then, on the other that their certain once they meet him. You have your! U factor in the the psychological thought and behavior there that maybe once he starts acting this out at some point, he can't turn back or can stop himself any goes all the way through with it right. So Yet somehow, even after all of that Did this story just continues to get weirder. So in october of two thousand and five scott met up with bob and mary. This time is in a parking lot, his meeting with them then this time he's meeting with them to hand over all of jennifer's things he had in his possession. Scott was a cup. Made by fbi laugh and the aid

didn't had acknowledge that they lost track of jennifer, bite this bob and Mary kept at it. Bob had his buddy. This very smart bob has his We run the plate on the truck. That is being and by this Joe snitch guy, when it comes back of course, register to a scot campbell, Then bob and marry again very smart. I applaud these people paid for a billboard to be set up outside of shotgun willie's, that's the strip club where Jennifer worked and they were contacted there. I mean what could this her were put up this billboard. Maybe somebody reaches out to us. Maybe it even solves the crime who knows, but what ultimately ends up which is a blessing. Their contacted bob is contacted by a newspaper, so he ends up being interviewed not about the case but more about the billboard.

And in the interview bob mentions very smartly that his daughter was last seen with Scott campbell, who he says in the interview, and this comes out in the paper seems to know a lot about her disappearance, this bridge thus january of two thousand and six captain, and for those of you keeping score at home. We have clearly pointed out that scott was committing fraud. He was stealing lying, cheating and very suspiciously. He was the last person seen with not one, not two or three, but for people who have vanished by this point. Scott is looking for I'm guessing at this point, he's probably looking for a big school Something bigger than his nickel and dime stuff and an opportune be presented itself. When a man named cleave armstrong decided to take a vacation now, who is

leave. He is a successful optometrist and friend of scott campbells scott and his mother rented space in the same building where cleaves practice was located. Cleave goes on vacation and Scott got to work using cleaves financials. Ask moved thousands of dollars. He stole all these documents from cleaves workspace and he moves thousands of dollars from cleaves money market account to his checking account to cleaves account. Then, over the next three weeks he forged nearly fifty five thousand dollars worth of checks to his own companies, basically he's having. Cleaves money market account, move a bunch of money to his personal checking account and then having cleave right checks to scott Kimball. companies. Remember he had that rocky mountain, all natural beef company and the rocky mountain cattle company so of course

gets back from vacation, is probably selling horse meat and he discovers that he discovers this theft and, of course he blows the whistle on Scott. He was the obvious, who was doing this right only his money when you have the checks made out to yourself, it's not a long paper trail to get to scott got wonder how did he get this money? So the result of all of this now he's in hot water. Again, what does Scott do when he is in hot water. We've seen it time and time again. He flees this time. He flees to California, where he shacked up with yet another girlfriend. I dont know how this guy manage to keep landing. I don't know I don't have to big beard and some women really find the beard to be irresistible. I there's, no doubt in my mind that he's a smooth, talker and there's

no down completely full of shit. There is no doubt in my mind that he can look at a room full of people and very quickly discern who are the gullible types and who are the vulnerable types, ran the room So this woman, her name, is Denise pierce now back, lafayette. Finally, because of this whole new theft thing, we haven't competent law man. This is detective gary thatcher whose, to look into scott campbell. Now he couldn't find scott physically, but I found was a treasure trove of information. According to the daily camera, thatcher found sheets of practice. Signatures bogus in us regarding the assault case against scots acts. Lorry account lien release for the jeep that he used to shame on the insurance proceeds after wrecking the vehicle, so so you see

We're pointing out here there's a very good chance that this, Insurance claim in itself is fraudulent, but and would you trace it back even a little, Further, it's a counterfeit lien release on the jeep. It doesn't appear that scott Kimball even owned the jeep. Now this immediately appeared to detective thatcher that this scott Campbell was not your which ordinary criminal, so that you're with laurie and she thatcher about all of scots strange behavior, and she told him about her daughter, casey remit, she is one of our missing people and house. was the last person who saw her before she vanished and after some good old she snooping around thatcher found the suppose it all in trailer hidden on sky

old ranch property, which he had sublease alt to someone else so is where I tell everybody, I'm glad You're joining us in the garage this week, but I hope you brought your raincoat because there's gonna be some shit the. Car rival chairs Haiti's shares their captain only to people on the ground to the top so for reasons unknown, saying that sarcastically agent laugh was removed from scott's case

She may maybe it's because he was a super gullible sucker who let this cannot make the f b. I look like a bunch of clowns. Scots informant status was revived, and a federal arrest warrant was issued for scott Lee kimball for full parole violations on march fourteen two thousand and six federal agents finally caught up with campbell. They located him in california, using cell phone tracking to pin down his location. when he saw them coming. He took off in his ford f three fifty driving at seriously high speeds flying through California's coachella valley, this whole chase was broadcast on local. you ve- and this was a lengthy car chase, but finally, scots truck ran out of gas, so he is a rested and sentence this time in federal

or two hands of getting ten months in jail in six months and a halfway house for violating his parole now How much time does he get for just running from the cops like that? Well, the thing is: regarding this, and I'm with you I'm on your side here. This is not a big punishment, but what it does is it serves a bigger purpose of simply holding scott in one place under watch until more cases. Could I built against him right ba. I would assume that I would have to be years of punishment for going on a high speed chase like that right I mean you have I don't want to get all political here. Go so what we have here is they're trying to build possible murder charges against this guy. So around the same time, the collar

Oh bureau of investigation They officially list casey as a missing person, so art so you got that is Scott's stepdaughter. Well, she she in a sense would have been. because he is involved with lorry casey lived with him and lorry for a while, it's not until after she disappears. Two actually got married right, but keep in mind laurie when her daughter Those missing thinks that that her daughter's out on a drug bender and disappeared, and she also thinks that scots. Actual fbi agent. That's what he's been telling her this whole time and I'm sure on some level. She thought you know what it'll be easy. to find my daughter. If I'm married to an fbi agent, and you and I, but he was also given her tips. Yap pull back

and we know that he's not an actual f b. I agent, and we also know that he scamming everybody up in a in every walk of life that that he comes into wine is like you are saying perfect storm. If you meet somebody- and they said that their own police officer, you might assume that why here seems to be an honest, individual You tell me that you're fbi agent, oh even higher, just if somebody said why my youth minister than you started I mean that they have a certain, set of moral standards and moral character. That's not always the case right. And I'm sorry to keep jumping around captain. But there are alive. The families involved in this growing case, and unfortunately, there is a lot of victim as we are now seeing or the distort hit your head, but what

happen is eventually to of the fathers of the missing will join forces So we have remembered the newspaper article that we discussed about the billboard This is seen by rob. Mcleod the father of missing young woman casey, the the former. You know daughter of his girlfriend or would have been step daughter for scott Kimball. Now by this time he knows. the sky is believed to be the last person to see or to be with casey. His daughter yeah He also knows that Scott's phone, been turned off for a law. period of time and, of course, is right around the time that casey vanished, so the two dad's together with lorry they add some snooping and Lori mentions scott's uncle terry missing too, or at least he was there

one day and is no longer there so wrong. Bob went to the fbi eyes. Denver office this in october, of two thousand and they're really kind of trying to lay out all of their suspicions for the fbi there and the fbi assigned special agent jonathan grossing to invest gate the missing persons cases surrounding scott Campbell, so we have Jennifer casey and terry that they are aware of it. This time it took two dads putting the puzzle together for the f b, I to get a clue as to what was going on with their one time and it Scott campbell right now, back to detective Gary thatcher he's the one investigating scott on the theft of the fifty five thousand dollars from the optometrist. He was shocked when he learned the scott campbell was in fact at one time, an fbi informant. So then, he teams, up with the

now special agent who's in charge of looking into these missing persons cases. So now, you're here, what we got going on for those you keeping score home. We are two of the facts, please have teamed up and they're like this. Dude is suspicious he's, probably involved in the missing persons case of our loved. One, and now we have a very competent, a very good hard working, detective investigating scott kimball for theft, charges and Whatever else he might be involved in and we have a competent f b, I agent who's, looking at scott for actual missing persons cases, because He's duping so many people and lying everyone and he's fairly decent at covering his tracks, or at least at leaving the area it really truly take some people to team up together to really piece this story together and figure out what this guy might be guilty of right. But now we have these detectives that are involved

trying to like you said piece together all these puzzle pieces, so they can get some serious charges against this individual we have several women that he's the last known person to be with them, and now we have the f b I go on. While we got a little bit of egg on our face because he was one of our informants big stinky egg, since big stinky egg- ah all over and now we're going to work with these detectives again to try to put together those pieces. So we can charge them with some serious stuff in one one comment that I found to be very interesting in regards to these inspectors that they would say years later there you know at that time? As soon as we came together with all this information, we knew immediately that the number of missing persons surrounding this one man were just too coincidental and

They believe that they were probably looking at a series of murders, yes in the light of casey Macleod, Jennifer, markham disappearance and don't forget terry kimball uncle terry's. Does parents. They are now starting to suspect that scott wasn't just this con artist or thief he's very likely a serial killer way, so the investigators started the process and worked doggedly to put their case together were assisted by two bolder county prosecutors, hisses, katharina booth and Amy, a cobo who were eager to lock up scott and throw away the key both were convinced that scott was guilty of a lot of evil deeds. Amy told the daily camera quote. It couldn't be a coincidence. There were too many people missing that he was last known to be.

the two women started looking into scott's criminal history to see where they could possibly A rest him on old charges, basically to keep him in jail while they continue to build some type of murder case against him right. So bolder, only issued a warrant for scott's arrest on suspicion of theft, forgery and false reporting for the optometrist cleave armstrong, it and then, in the meantime, Scott's suspended sentence in the two thousand and one montana theft and escape case was revoked and he was ordered to serve his remaining time. This is nearly two years behind bars. The team bought themselves some more time, basically lady prosecutors were such a thorn in scott side that he planed about them in rico,

jailhouse conversations, always referring to them as the boulder bitches kit for them, I feel like that should be a really good softball team. Like they've, won eighteen championships in a bolder bitches. So now they are like they're very strongly. Looking not just at got kimball as a man there looking into everywhere that he had been and now we gotta look at every one. He may have come into contact with during this time. Well, not only that, but see, time and time again, whether it's in print or a documentary about this guy people saying when you have at least four people missing that are connected to this individual and he's constantly lying about everything you have to start then, going back to did. He live in your town,

there's somebody missing that possibly was connected to him well and in it makes it difficult because he's lived under so many different names now now was he going by JO snitch or the captain or the colonel. believe me I'll try to have fund, this is the one time this week that I get to leave my house so when they're, looking into all of the places that he's been in people who come in contact with this is when they're going figure out that he's on some guns during this time. And remember: he's prohibited from owning firearms having them in his possession per terms of his federal probation, so prosecutors job. At this chance to pile on more charges against scott so. He was indicted in federal court in denver on a charge of a felon in possession I have a firearm and then

in june of two thousand and seven gina, how many years? Many for that! I don't know, oh I'm in, and I may have come across that, but I started to the note got really lengthy on this guy, with all the different court dates and different charges that they brought again Am I mean we're talking about and all the victims. Since this became an adult they're, bringing charges against the sky and and, more importantly, all the victims. But I would imagine that doesn't seem like should be a light charge to me. A varies from state to state. This was federal court, though any this is it. This is just a lengthening, the amount of time he is going to have to be behind bars and build this case against him

so now we have detective thatcher and agent grubbing, the fbi, agent and the police detective. They sit down for a six hour interview with scott campbell. This is at the cascade county detention facility. The investigators ass about the disappearances of jennifer markham of casey Macleod, and Terry Kimball, his uncle scott, somewhat to the surprise of the two detectives offered to provide information about jennifer and his uncle. If given a munifi for his white collar crimes, Scott also told them. casey was still alive sky. Danced around providing actual details saying instead ike incriminate myself any further

in a later interview. He said that casey had oh dear, somewhere in a national forest in colorado, and that he had seen her for well into the fire, while high on meth, causing her death no dumb by it at all. detectives continue to interview every one who had come in contact with scott, this led them to Steve annexed jennifer's boyfriend, who was still in federal prison as they talked. He told them about how he had trusted scott to tee Care of jennifer on the outside, he denied the existence. And of the murder for hire plot and we believe that scott was responsible for jennifer's disappearance, but then Steve dropped a bomb He said he knew another guy who experienced almost the exact same thing, and he gave the detectives the name of stephen.

We now Stephen hawley, you may recall, was the one day leanne emory somebody that we haven't talked about at all. Yet in this, in this episode we talked about her briefly last week. stephen, just like the other inmate stephen ennis, also put his trust into while they were in prison together this in two thousand and two remember, he hold his girlfriend leanne to trust? Scott Scott was pretending that he was going to help stephen escape from prison and He was going to help get his girlfriend to him in mexico once Stephen had escaped, but once scott gets out of prison. It appears that he seduced liane because the who went on the multi state check overdraft spree and then leann magically disappears,

is questionable if he seduced her or if he'd gotten contact and they just stole the invermere while she's very young, I mean he got Israel's, he could have said. Where I kill you, I'm going to kill your family. If you don't cooperate this is where there like wait. We we have a possible nother another victim here, so they contact lens father, his name's howard, But let us be clear: we got three possible missing women connected to sky and then a male his uncle right, but the council, right which his his uncle story is a little less nefarious in the sense that it doesn't seem. the obvious that this guy was missing. Remember he came up with the story of of on the yeah won the lottery and went to mexico it. I would guess for detectives that its

only once they mention uncle terry's name to Scott. In this interview that he says. Oh, I can probably help you on that case that they're they're they're now going wait. A second there's, probably something here. While the look When you say you on the lottery wordy when the lottery ohio, good state, they look up the records. the state of a higher, never paid out terry ever paid out scots uncle, so he did not win they were able to find that out pretty quickly. So they know that Story is bullshit, so when they contact leon, emory, emery's, father, howard, the first thing he said to the fbi's. Like I've been trying to get the eyes attention on this. For years I I've told them. Did someone using the name. Hannibal was responsible for the disappearance of my daughter.

So then this is when we have stephen holly. He confirm for detectives what they are now suspecting that hannibal was yet just now alias for scott Kimball. Furthermore, Stephen hawley told investigators that Hannibal asked him that once holly escape from prison to this is this is just bizarre man. He. Is that scott Kimball, using the name of Hannibal, asked this other inmate. Once I help you escaped from prison and you're out, I want you to torture and kill my second wife, also the mother of scots two boys rain. But when you do this,. I want her to know that I was the one that sent you to kill her. So

evidence captain is obviously piling up against Scott kimball and pointing out that he probably killed multiple people, detectives, dug in and looked into every aspect of his life addition to interviews with people detectives gathered the following pieces of evidence. This is a starts off with a search of scots toshiba laptop computer, which revealed the following. A search of the term jennifer marcum missing. They also found pictures of various women, including Liane Emery, this picture Leon. Emery is dated just eleven days before she disappeared,

two hundred and ninety one graphic images and their statement says depicting women clothed and unclothed being assaulted, forced into violent sexual activities or raped bound and gagged, possibly some pictures of women posing as being dead and then some of them threatened at gunpoint or knifepoint. The search also discovered that sky had visited online rape, video sites using the moniker beef man, one, nine, nine, six, a search of scott's, former Adams, county home investigators. And bloodstains in the living room carpet and carpet pad and floorboards

so they cut out all these samples and they're taking collecting them and they sent them to the fbi lab for analysis on his good thing that the two fathers got together and started, trying to put together the pieces of this puzzle But now we don't just have hearsay, or this guy went by Hannibal Or somebody just sent, you know he said she said stuff. We actually have enough physical evidence against scott campbell So the there looking at scott cell phone records- and you talked about suspicions and what what. Bore relating to law enforcement, but we're gonna confirmation right here, because as soon as they look at his cellphone records, they saw that. Yes, in fact, his phone did go offline from eight hundred and fifteen p dot m on august 23rd, two thousand and three all the way through four hundred and thirty, eight p dot m on august 24th, two thousand and three.

Now it's during this to this twenty hour period that casey Macleod vanished, ask and scott. According to his statements. He was alone in the mountains, which we know is not a great alibi, so The phone comes back online, a pinged a tower near walden colorado in a search of some lots of old documents in receipt of scots law enforcement, discovered a receipt from north park soup grocery store in walden colorado. The receipt was for seven eighteen dollars and ninety four cents, purchased pasta, meat, spaghetti sauce and lighter fluid okay at the same time, will you wonder, makers sauce a little spicy. This is at this. Time when Casey Macleod disappeared,

also was supposedly picked up for work to go to work by sky. and remember. We know she never shows up for work at subway that day. In fact, there's no. Record of any one, having seen her were again after this again god claims. He was hunting alone in the mountains. That day and walden is in the mountains, sounds more like Scott was their hunting for somewhere to dispose of cases, body and hunting for something to burn it with brian not to mention that before telling her mother case his mother. Hey neighbor solver her and- and I picked her up, and all these little lies and they come to fight. That is those aren't true either. Yeah and remember the strange statement from Scott, where he told police in an interview that he said case oh deed, on math and died in a national forest. Well, walden is survey

did by a national force in a later search of the trailer does the supposed stolen, trailer hidden by scott investigators found casey's subway hat along with with that they found a black bag and winning six zip ties. Two rolls of electric tape and a pair of women's shoes, agent, grousing called over to the authorities and walden, and they found out a skull and skeleton likely belonging to a young female was discovered by a hunter six months earlier and Abraham. Area southwest of town after dna testing. It was confirmed that these were the remains of casey Macleod, Unfortunately, there was no way to tell the cause or manner of her death yep, but at least you have a

And we know that it's harder to prosecute a murder case without a body and it's not terribly far off from where you know or believe. Scott was mad. It's not terribly far off from what his alibi was I'm alone in the mountains. This is in the mountains, so it's looking very bad for scott now investigators. They also spoke with inmate who knew Scott this inmate not been named publicly, but this inmate told them that Scott said he had strangled casey with a dog collar and smashed her head in with a rock this, because she was a witness against the leader of a powerful drug gang, but again casey's cause of death could not be determined from her remains, and her skull of course showed

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