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the commitment applies, the one club for details, the you are now listening to true murder, the most shocking killers in true crime, history and the authors that have written about them: g, eazy, Bundy, Dahmer, the night stalker d c k every week, another fascinating author talking about the most shocking and infamous killers in true crime, history, true murder, with your host journalist and author dan Zou fancy, oh good evening, Melinda cooler is very familiar with the secret centre and the many links to tie him to germany. Ramsay each link is clear. We explain within this book to lead from

One connection to the next between germany and the secret santa follow the pieces of the puzzle to find out who the secret centre is and how chameleon was able to evade. The authorities include within a pair of government generated documents for the same man under different aliases, assumed names this alone. should raise a red flag for authorities the same individual. Also use a term of endearment common to the Ramsay family for jon in front his peers and classmates attic roddy school when asked it He was related to that girl found in a basement. He responded, with. I dont know know johnny, be no one knew this term of in german until it was used in the book. The death of innocent by John Ramsay plans murder indicates that the killer knew the victim schedule. Overkill is usually a message intended for someone else other than the victim

was the overkill message intended for and why dna fino typing can be used to help generate an image of the killers face which may match up with some of the images found within this book raises Some serious questions the true name of the secret service, is listed on detective loose smet's suspect lives. There is a list of people the contact at the end of the book. Should you see this? you could say to report his whereabouts in the proper authorities, corruption and lack of cooperation on the part of the authorities had held back much of this information for far too long. That is why she has compiled the list of links to send out to the public so that they may decide for themselves. If the information found within warrants interest and possibly an arrest perhaps together we can finally bring an end to this case and justice for John, been eighty ramsay. The book there were featuring this evening is secret santa my murderer. The true jonbenet completed puzzle with my special guest. activists and other melinda cooler well

through the programme, and thank you for this interview, Melinda cooler, thanking mrs ask before giving in air and an audience to John bernay as well as other homicide. Victims is our job. To tell the truth, I can tell you this: it's the nine eleven terrible tragedies? There's posters everywhere, stay at say it. If you see something, that's wrong is! Is that something you're supposed to report it? If not, then you'd become culpable in the outcome of tragedies, I'm trying not to become palpable in the outcome of the tragedy this child, let's go to nineteen. Ninety six, take us back for people too, your stand. What, I'm bernay had told for persons tell what job and I had said regarding secret santa kosovo- These conversations before we talk about who you found out to be the secrets are sheltering are never everyone wants will go away, but John bernay vote a friend of hers and that information

he's just made available very recently, this friend but, that germany, when they were young, told her she was very excited dances coming again your christmas, but the child said fans who was here his hands as coming again after christmas with president, but it's a secret is a secret visit this child, just now recently within the last couple of weeks, came forward with that information because now she's twenty six years old, and she realised the importance which accompany told her dear friend, when they were both six years old. You cite three other people. There were also told about this secret santo. What kinds of things specifically the job and I say, and to who the santa wait? Whites party that stands out was accustomed to being there for the fleet white family. So everyone is familiar with that stanza. That was the second

John dna, John beneath families dancer neck runnels was damp a number one. So as this parties winding down at the white house, and priscilla was John dna is taking stanza and stands out is hoping she enjoyed all her president's jon Benet holds that santa Anna the two she's expecting another santa after christmas, but it was a secret santa and he's going to bring her yet another president Santer number two I'm not sure if he became a little annoyed that she might be greedy or didn't understand. She was digging truth fancies coming again after christmas, because that dance, I told her- he's already been here at your home, and here I am so he went why she was expecting another stanza in the evening. One everyone was leaving. I believe that John dna told priscilla white answers coming again after christmas when power, John Ramsay packed his child in bed, some

along the line over these past twenty six years. Someone pointed out that she also told her father. While he's talking in and she wasted just a moment or two and she's excited, because even though she sleepy and it's been a long day that is coming again after christmas, the child it was now twenty six years older than is recent. That is a young lady who knows what she heard from this precious sexual friend of hers, the other stands for. I don't know that he's still alive from the fleet white party and for priscilla. She may remember that, but certainly I would think a father would remember the words that his daughter has to stay about a secret santa after christmas. Right about the grounds keeper and what german It said to the ground skipper regarding secrets: anna, yes, her parents action with the grounds paper stem from her coming to him and she was crying and this I had read somewhere. She approached him. She was crying. He wanted

no, why she was crying. After all, it's christmas eve opens your presence. You visited which, as you have a brand new by, why would you be crying on christmas? probably he's thinking as a young man himself that someone burger did she fall was wrong and she said to him I wish, my father was around more often so at that moment, I'm feeling is that she's not seeing her fathers, the bad guy I wish my father was around more often, and why does love birch? Why does love hurts? That was the second why would a six year old even make such a statement? Is it because the secret stanza who visited every christmas eve hurt her while he's in costume Is that a possibility dancers? Yes, let's get back to what the name were heard later after this and again, we, gonna go into what happened on that morning. The police arrival and the mishandling of this case the gross mishandling of this case right from the very beginning of the investigation. But let's talk about what police do

find in terms of a neighbour that comes forth and has something to say that they witnessed in terms of a scream and also an eye witness report that they gave to police, tell us what they said: the police in terms of this description and what they hurt and when there is such an important point, a kite, nay neighbour, across the street, heard after midnight or at midnight? scream of a child, the most heart, wrenching scream. She had ever heard in her entire life. This green kay definitely in her opinion from across the street from the ranch he's home. That tells us that at midnight, job, he's still alive because she's, the one that's great Our later that same witness whose hearing the scream and is wondering what's going on across the street, does they witnessed saw at five p m Ok, now into the next day, the day after christmas. My words: I am personally, are leaving their home, asked five to go to the fleet white party, but

neighbours saying goodbye. She has their dog. She sees the man coming from the left, walking straight to johns house, there, is a good chance that the person walking straight to John's house and cutting as you're looking at the front of the house over to the left, foreigner watched, John and patsy pull away because of the timing. So this curious woman saw. The image of the man knows that he was no, maybe five, six, maybe hundred and thirty pounds what jacket he was wearing that he with intention walked toward the house and off to the left, warner. That would be by the way, the same corner where, if you lift up the great and slide in should the wrong, it would be that corner later when the police were there to find out about the kidnapping which, as you know, turn into a murder, he is there at all- away from the house that same man, running away from the house from the back and then back to the direction he came from and this week

Man is watching him run away from the house, while the authorities are in the house- probably looking for him. Now they realise this is not a kidnapping. This is a murder to she had turned around. In fact, one of the local officers in front of her own, Again between interest rates- and she said there is a man running away, from the house is very low. But he's a man at five o clock in the evening approached the house and that right left, warner. So it's the same man at five who is running away now. Maybe someone could go catch up with them and find out who he is, and why is he here? Why is he running away from the house when the house is loaded with police officers, she said. No one paid attention to her. No one pursued that individual incredible, let's talk about the most. The important thing that you into this story, obviously is your interaction with this person? Do, you believe, is the primary suspect bill. Ramsay first off tell us

who bill Ramsay is just officially and then, let's take our audience back to the karate school July nineteen. Ninety six, you write it. Your husband is involved in this karate school as an adult student, and your son is enough: others, a child student. At this, a k, c karate school, tell us what this cruelty school is who the instructor Tell us a little bit about your son. Being there tell us, It was a background about this karate school and why you're all there and then what happens one day good, you mean there's chill karate spoils and we should always call them. Cried his phone number one near originals, all at dale, wednesday, air, his two friends participated in mental health in new jersey. That's crazy school number, one. Let's call it a negative school karate school number to the one. My husband The son attended franco was finally have used all used in the child's blast thomson, the adult glass with other dont males and females debts.

Her eyes were numbered, shoe parkinson date. Varieties bore, the owner is Brian parkinson, that wisdom where town new jersey, which now: the weird town post office. This is where I met a man and his name was bill. Ramsay bill ramsay and his team friends and together at the park and soon they karate school, they'll ramses, as this was very strongly felt because it his attention to the church, drain and then his aggressive nature with the adult males, especially after he returned from john bananas, murder situation, bill, Ramsay is by feed. Sex is one hundred and thirty. Five spoken word to describe and this very evening think of Charles Manson. This man's get right next to Charles man said, and you probably wouldn't be able to tell them apart in height, in built in weight in the way they look in appearance. Noticed respected either one of them, but you looking at someone very very similar to Charles man, said the rat

he's sitting on the bleachers high and the bleachers as one bleacher kind. It helps the great instructor it keep. The adults away from the children during the children's class bill was angry. This is where he really got. My attention bill was very, very angry because on the wall were bill, always that high on the bleacher to his right was a wooden karate. Training sword. It was a very ornate peace. The carving it can be used as a sword. It can inflict danger, but it was intended as a unique get one of a kind for it owner of the school given to MR parkinson's, as they are constrained by air and appreciating customer. Why, and always, on that war, they'll lands. Is all about wood, and that is something we should all remember my son, because he did very well and on training wipe out not remember, is a very active little boy. Five and a half years all asked the caribbean struck there's. Just one is wiped out good. He please run off the bleacher grabbed the sword

very, very careful and he just wanted to stay and handle it. Mr Parkinson gave him permission. Franklin ran up the bleachers behind all ran. She grabbed the sword off. The wall jumped down from the bleachers is only about vice, if that's as he's playing something that would be like sore all our rangers. just swing in those short around pretending to able to train himself are used it better, not anyone in sight of him. No one was in danger: the crises I was keeping an eye on that. All this done until Randy jumped off the bleacher, went after franklin rift, but the sword from franklin's hands and the rusted it or franklin's adamant franklin because he had just finished look out. Franklin intuitively jumped back away from the point of the sword is the wooden sword and that incident I raised from the front of the school to franklin, put them behind rabbit

sort out the rams. He returned it to where it's supposed to beyond the wall. To the instructor get this man away from the children is a danger to the children. None of the children are his. Why is he here and if he's here the next time all parents will pull their children because I will pull mine and the problem was resolved. We thought that's bill ramsey. It's a little bit more. About this unique hand carved hand painted miniature dear karate sort this out I had my own hands- is only about twenty to twenty two inches in length in in that area. the sword hand scrawled, where you would put your hand a hand group. It has grown in gold. The word korea, aid in japan made in china made in korea nano now only just one word: scrolls in gold paint, indicative of it being a one of a kind and created for this instructor. The word korea down the shaft of it on all sides, was what one would think is just black lacquer, illegal

like low snakes. It wasn't. There was korean letter, the korean lettering, men, pride integrity, that sort of thing it also had splashes of other colors of eight, and it was sealed with a glistening lack of that very, very important. It was sealed this whole piece of wood artwork with you, was a glistening lacquer. The reason why that's important is in the autopsy report. The coroner is very specific as too the explanation and detailing of the wooden stick, which everyone is calling a brush handle whether it is really isn't. I only know this when he said the word korea rolled in gold tank and then there were blacks, wiggles of lacquer paint running up and down it s, lash of multiple collar pains and it was sealed with a glistening lacquer. He basically described the soul,

I just described to you, sir, so not only there, but this just a panicky. This is a man who loves we can turn would into anything he absolutely wants to. So was that states that completed the grass was it from the paintbrush tray? I handle a paintbrush handle, I can tell you one thing: I know about paintbrush handles. They are never howard, how much you spend on them? How little you spend on that its irrelevant there never field with a glistening lacquer. Can you never? They don't have korean war is going up and down there have squirrels and gold only one word korea. They have yes, in japan laid in China. Yes, they have that, but not what was described this marriage- I would quality training sort. So sooner or later we are going to connect. What is that it was used to make the garage. Let's talk about his behavior, you dimension that this behaviour in the class. But what

The concern to all the dollar parents, and so they went to the instructor and try to it was some solution so that the adults were not unless they were a guardian apparent of the child. They were not allowed to be at these classes and the adults were only permitted to be he had these classes. Five minutes arrived only five minutes before the classes, so there was a separation between the children and having someone not connected to the children, say, for example, observing in this interim from July two december, your husband, then these adult classes and other people communicated with this first there was an these classes as fellow Brady devoted water. That were said. Just before christmas of nineteen ninety six mistress pancake, just hit on the most important art of all of this bill, then it is rare that, though angie isn't good spirits only one day that I know what he announced.

He cried in structure that he and his two friends our seasonal workers and construction? They didn't have the might of intuition for less couple of months, the crowding start. Mr that's, ok! When you get back to work, then you can just catch up. I we're not going anywhere, he said, oh no! No! I expect to collect one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars as an inheritance as and when I returned from boulder colorado. I will not only pay my delinquent tuition, but that of my two friends, edin scary, and he said: well, that's ok and no pressure, but did somebody die? You used the word inheritance. Did someone die? Is it oh? No. I visit my father every christmas eve for a large sum of money. It sustains me for a year and then I go back the next. The save for that year's inheritance. Nobody died and They cry instructor, Mr Brian, parkinson's, that all ok, I just I was I was concerned because you used that one word Inheritance is a no no. No. The other thing that took place was

when any one, the men or the children would earn avowed. Rightfully so everybody would you mind another adult me I'll write another dont male steadily and don't you the family to be here for you and share you want it will encourage, but besides your two friends sedentary, don't you have anybody should now I'm the black sheep of but the family. They live out, bolder colorado. I see them once a year. They can't be bothered with me other than give me might stay away. from that, and he was very angry and he said I have children. I hate children, I hate my siblings. I hate women and he just kind of used that moment to vent his anger toward a specific group, his siblings, because they were, don't it over his words, not mine. They were don't at all But now he gets his money was here to get out of town stay away for another year. Those were his words to different people and the crowding class, who happened to be standing around in a group encouraging one another to succeed in getting the next belt so enough. Men in that karadzic last heard that but more time,

beside a hundred eighteen thousand hours before he ever left ocean county new jersey, in this case, where town new jersey, before he ever left an expert. sing his hatred for his siblings. They were adopted over and women in general and that he travelled to balls are to receive money once every christmas concerning all of their considering all that when this man came back from older colorado after them, this child he had not received the hundred eighteen thousand dollars and he was filled with rage and anger, and he I took it out of one person, my husband, let's go back to something that happened before his plan. Christmas visit, I think, is very port, and if this was wit and you write that it was what was the footwear, the new footwear, the dough rams came to the karate class wearing. God, you're a brilliant. He prior to that europe because he said Hoddan

adventures and he always wore what I would call close of a pauper. If I may say and not just respect ways like all of a sudden you sitting on the bleachers incense he sets high. You cannot in this. The red logo is a type of a feather ring, bright, red, indian feathering. If you well, that's, why would finally, as and the words high tech age I dash coupled with tee capital capital sake because these various chinese, but where it is new to his wardrobe, the man, especially the cried instructor, Mr Brian Parkinson, incur channel. Answered in a very positive way, hoping tat. He would do the same with the rest, of his war job, like that looks all trials, manson lie, so they can manage, and he said, while it's called were ongoing and I needed this footwear in so now, it'll be easier for him to visit his father for the question of his money right, please remember something which I just found out recently, which is why bring it up right now?

is police issue items that were in the crime scene that too stay. Nobody can explain the hi tech bran one footprint one ends addressed next to germany, where she was found. That's a police issued footwear. I didn't know that, and you know but now also the mare flashlight, the mad flashlight. That is found and nobody has identified it as being theirs or somebody brought it in and just forgot about it. No, no. No, that is also police issued the mag flashlight. His police issued officers can use that to protect themselves There are no tough spot when they dont want to use your pistols and anything else for that matter. Mr bill ramsay, he attended the first karate school and this is very important. The first karate it was a case and courageous bore, operated, buys got. Razor is true, name a k, a tom, your boggy, his fraudulent name, so the operated the school

a fraudulent name? The reason he did that she was a career pedophile? He then arise. stood in multiple states, they'll ramsay and he formed an unusual, unhealthy friendship, Phil ramsay built aloft over the cried his school where the child, during an that class war being molested. Scott razor eighty eight tomyo boggy went to prison for fifty three council, child molestation and other crimes against children, pleaded down to nine that school taught the local police officers only police officers south that's technical training and on the bull shore instead against born factions. the ransom not has the words foreign faction over the past five, google, those words and they said lotion where's together appears nowhere nowhere and any search engine what they did in the brochure from a case. He cried school

or police training. Only I couldn't get in their class. You couldn't get in that class, sir bilbil rancey did because they had friendship with the local police when that kaleidoscope just got razor. Eighty eight tomyo boggy went to prison for his criminal activity against his student children. Then the local police heads shut down that school. They contacted bill ramsay and his friends and said we have no names or stun guns that are here in wooden sword or whatever else is here the uniforms, if you, want them come take whatever you want. We are just instructed with closing down the school and carrying out the building, they'll ramsay one, They are and obtained the stun guns by private. That, though Angie had a stun gun of his own that he used on Mr Scott razors doberman pincher. When the school was closed. Down will ramsay went to the second school, my husband and son school parkinson, bake roddy, and he one day made the mistake of bringing the stun gun through the school. The instructor mister Parker was not please by

stretch of the imagination. So when you bring a weapons school, we don't use weapons in the school, and I what's of children, saying that and here's the wall I just bought it cause. I used it on my friends, doberman pinscher and it took three strikes to get the dog down to lay the dog down, make the dog unconscious, and now the crowd instructor is Lillard. You use that weapon I will defend the stalk. Why was the stone for his view to learn that it took three strikes to disable that vehicle? I mean that dog. Why? Why, with as want war- and you know that dogs like me, we'll have long memories, and he said just taken- here, and he was curious to the land. Had not one stun gun now that scott razor school was closed down. He and multiple fun guns and he knew that it took three strikes to take down and disabled doberman pinscher, if you remember correctly, The time dimension, jumping back and forth that jon Benet,

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to higher. Now continuing we were talking about bill Ramsay, winning returns to the school. You talk a bill ramsay as always, Out of this investigation into the murder of John bernay bill round, z changes. His name tell us about what bill ramsay changes, his name and when and how you are What are the circumstances that you get involved in this case? And what do you do? Well, ok, maybe now, let's just then no ramsay laughed the laudable. the colorado she was happy he expected to collect, and it was this the amount that he mentioned before he ever left. One hundred in eighteen thousand dollars, that very amounts that the authorities probably need to look at. Why you know that amount, which is so, when the ransom note show he returned

and without the funds he attacked my husband multiple times my husband put a stop to it. My husband warned. The first time is just barring is warming up, but he attacked my husband the first time my husband back in law, the attacked my husband, the second time my husband, backed them off as the atlas, and I dunno what happened during your holiday, but you're, not taking it out on me now, just just behave yourself and stop or only spring up. If you want another partner, fine and he won't after my husband third time, my husband, Isn't gentle giant a sweet? Local lock was sixty four and three hundred pounds. He means to her. No one was in class to help him with his weight control. But my husband and already been struck twice. My dear ramsgate my husband, a palm strikes that bill ramsay across the wrong bill? Ramsay asked off the wall it himself up now, the other adults are looking at. This man was very embarrassed. and she's embarrassed because everybody saw this bill, ramsey

angry, because you now hurt. I am sure my husband hit him hard for, hence a role across the school ramsay is looking into the right looking should allow the ranch he's heading out. The door turns around before he opened the door before he left and he said yelling. the body from now on, you're, not call me bill ramsay, my name is larry wrong, got it Larry, r, o age and don't call me that brands you anymore. I will not answer you and out the door. He storms. There is another meeting. There is another gathering. next class they'll comes in his quiet, using nothing to anyone, no less his normal behaviour. This body languages is like don't come near me that sort of thing where one of the other adults, not my husband, whose mother father are fbi agents and that's important soundness.

The very smart man who I later found out is affiliated with the ocean county prosecutor's office right here in new jersey. He didn't like the name change, so he was poking. The bear and bill came in. He said to bill a billy boy. He billy boy that little girl that was found dead in her basement. Are you related to that little girl? He didn't stay jon, Benet, Jon, benet ramsey, he didn't even say boulder colorado shouldn't. Just simply, are you related to a little girl that was found dead in her basement, a billy, William? I tell you what happened. Lily is now shuffling to the right shuffling to the left. Looking all over trying to figure out I'm guessing what he's going to do at that moment and Billy who always likes the exit when he stuck in a hard spot turns around in bellows out, I don't know no johnny be nobody knows: Johnny b, and any stormed out, and I was there and everyone else heard it, and we are all wondering Finally, our names romany ramsay somebody ramsay launch on Ebay, and I never forgot that that stock

In my memory, when did you read and get confirmation of that johnny be wended, the light bulb go off the importance of what he had said at that time. Johnny b, when did you come to the understanding what that meant, suppose gave that was not until many years later, when shot and patsy wrote a book death of innocence, it is in that book that is a term of endearment that, within their home john and patchy, both address your precious little girl as johnny, be a derivative of John Bennet. Her father, reduced to johnny worthy a pet name, well. There was many many years later show how come they ran g in the earliest stages of the murder investigation we're talking less than a month. How, today. He knew and that child was introduced by her mom and dad is johnny, be when nobody. No until the book does innocence by John and fancy? Many years later, we didn't know. But how do you

how does this fit in to your idea that the parents were guided in eighteen. Ninety nine. I believe- and you say that play there was seven charges, but two of the charges from the boy their daily reporter. You say name charles, that the indictments led to an arrest, but they could have been never presented, the charges were never presented, so you say the charges, words that they allow the child to be in the vicinity of someone they knew that was dangerous. That likely resulted or did result in the murder of John beneath now I'll. Given that information, how does secret santa play into your entire idea of what happened, and why that night, This is a good time to tell the world that the book janshah my murderer, was given to japanese. You could send my martyr all the backup information, absolutely every little chrome. I could gather that was given to by special dollar.

we're to the governor MR bill, always comer owen during the man honourable man, it was also given to just just before the grand jury announcer decision to Alice hunter. They love within less than of the grand jury announcement received information every com, I had on dough, randy's, multiple aliases job, which our government generated documents, and I was hoping that they would at least be used add information to solicit cooperation from John and patsy and in fact they'll try to governor owens did try to terry. I the attorney general also has the same information. So it's not like I'm giving a terribly tom, dick and harry. No I'm giving the information to the authorities in hopes that they will pursue it. So then, here is Alice hunter. Only a few days fresh with having this information he's receiving the decision by the courts that the grand jury wants to indict john and patsy for allowing their child to be in the vicinity.

Someone who they knew in advance was very dangerous, resulting in the death of their child. Now, who are they talking about in the home, patsy john burke so. What are you talking about nine or a little boy? I dont think stop where they talking and mother mother, the father, I believe, the jet, the grand jury. Somehow someway remember. I wasn't there, but I believe some how some way someone introduced the information about bill ramsay to the grand jury, because nothing made sense. So what Alice hunter did is when Alice hunter received this information written that they want to indict that's when, Alice hunter said, there's not enough information here too, and I was he talking about the decision. The grand jury made a reference to john piazzi or no no, he wasn't. He was talking about the information he received about bill. Ramsay, that's what he was talking about and when he said, we don't have enough information here joins. I was talking about John patsy for their knowledge about bill. Ramsay, that's the whole of it and most people. Then we are what

who have sir, they don't understand, and that does not their fault again the original police who came to the house, If they did not know, somebody comes here every christmas day to collect a large sum of money and his name there's no randy a k, a william war is wrong and all the rest of it is that the police fault or maybe is it. Appearance holding back information which does not give the authorities the full picture. That's my argument that has always and my argument, just just just collective ramses dna is a north carolina he's using yet another area, and if you dont want to listen to me for any reason whatsoever. Look at the government generated documents that are in germany secrets handsome. I murderer. I do not make those up he did to. Why does this innocent man, if you think she's innocent in embryo thing, she says that an irrelevance you the job in a murder? Why does he keep changing? His name is appearance when he

returns from older. He immediately changed his name yet again, Larry round his new name I have in the book is business. Part is a harbor of wood, so I'm giving everybody proof of his different identification I gave him his gun, at generated police mugshot an ocean county new jersey for assault in battery? That's under his first name is true name bill. Ramsay, then you have the business card that he when he returned, then you have a originates from. I believe twenty nineteen is north carolina shit a licence under way lawrence drawn and now recently, within the last six months, he's using a different name altogether by just simply adding a different alphabet, billy arrow ha, and so, if he's not guilty of something, why does he keep changing his name? If he's not guilty of something winded when he returns from bolder. Did he immediately change the color of his originally black or ranger pickup truck to the new collar of blood red is a licence.

wait, another way: J, J w to sixty days and diamond I'll. Tell you why? Because it wasn't in a car accident, he was afraid If someone saw that black ford, ranger pickup truck in the vicinity of jonbenet home park somewhere where it didn't belong. They may not remember the truck, but by gosh I believe they will remember it had new jersey license plates. So when the law enforcement rightfully stay, some someone brought up a black ford. Ranger pickup truck with new jersey license plate operative color black white I'm from new jersey and the authorities are looking for a black ford, ranger pickup truck they're, not going to find it. Why? Because this new color is red, he jumped from one residents to another, staying at each individual home only for a week or two, and then he got someplace else to live, avoiding a paper trail or a place where he could be picked up all of his

changes, including chet, shaming off his beard and his moustache. So now he has a clean shaven face and pulling his hair back so tight that from let's just say, two or three blocks away from him. You would think he was bald because he kept that ponytail so that I didn't changing yet his appears in another way, someone who's innocence. was not trying to hide from the authorities, does not do all of these things, and, more importantly, prior to this is important prior to ever leaving to go to boulder to collect his one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars the cried his school parkinson they karate school is broken into. Only two things were stolen. The world cup on the wall, that bill randy, coveted and only his application to the crowd is good because the cried instructor and the door was open and the file folder was caught sideways, so he some through a quickly to see what was missing

they'll, randy and only bill ran his application before he ever where new jersey. You know that tells me that tells me here plan b. If he didn't collects, aren't aging, thousand dollars, and he did not want anything that be able to be compared to the ransom now, so he removed his application, which had his handwriting sample on it. The rancher does one carvings and I just send your picture. One of his would carbons, though the native american indian. Now yes on the back of that would curbing was just a panicky. If you look at the very short w and are as high as high, swing high. I l l an end the hang man's news. Yes, that's what you said, MR They ask any artist worth their sought, whether their painting or they're, making our fleet pottery, or what have you assign their full name, building, you can't sign bill ramsay. You can't say and will not sign a shape, nay wary wrong or role hon. He will not. So what he stopped with is what he wants W I L l as william ending

hang man's news. He brag about to him. How important that is. Man's news is an john d, nay, and the role the white cord wrapped around her neck, not once but twice and pulled using the grant as part of the weapon pulled with a force that would be needed to take down a three hundred pound man in the ransom. No, he meant hence the whoever is the author of the ransom, not mentions that your choice, we'll be decapitated. If you go against everything that we asked you to do. Well, let me say Does he nearly did that he nearly did that she was a child because of the force that was used, a bundle of visas as an opportunity to stop for a second for these messages, in some, our students from Brigham young university partner, with local health teams to fight rheumatic heart disease saving lives in a spirit of love and service brigham young university for the benefit of the world.

You actually talk about this girl as well and also what was found in the autopsy not to get anymore you didn't people's imagination already has in this case, but there was something there was consistent people again. mentioned it as a broken paintbrush handle but what was found forensically? what was found in that autopsy concerning sliver of wood and germany, lanka that poor child it was a sliver of wood. It was a tan color, as in the old fashioned school pencils number two in that we all used as children and they still used now it was that color can and this flivver or would I there came from only one or two places they claim. The paintbrush handled is broken at both ends, but they can't find the pieces or it came from the. wouldn't karate training sword that was used as a weapon against albany in two different ways:

in different ways. Europe mentioning one way that thou, because, if the same color, would it in tat, unless you soon, as I have seen it, you wouldn't know that so she may have been ion how did this just shows your imagination figure? What he did with that sword does number one but number two. That sword is the only thing that would have caused an aid and one half inch. Long gated v shaped skull fracture to this child skull, but you have to remember something she was adopted I'm her dead, just the first salt against this child. She, stun guns in order to immobilize her. That was the second attack against this child. She was sexually assaulted and, by the way, the multiple medical

the dominoes. Coroners have determined according to hijack the bushmeat that these attacks against her in her vagina wall were over a period of time because of the age of the different scarring that they could see too. I am taking this moment to say every time this Manville ramsay went you collect is funds or that years inheritance. Is it a far stretched to think that that is not all. He did to this child is far stretch, got according to the medical examiner near is old scarring from different periods a time in the vagina wall of this child. But tat was not all the adoption, the sun, god, the sexual assault, the ligature now she's dead, please. This is the confusing moment for everybody, but I will tell you after the ligature there is no blood flow in her brain in her skull area. In her head area, she is dead.

I was not, or this sadistic man no, because he cracked her over the skull and the only thing that would cause that kind of vision. eight eight and one happens, long gated, skull fracture is a grossly wouldn't raining sort, especially of his only twenty to twenty two inches long and is try an you were in its shape. I tell you this. I can begin to tell you how nauseous I was when they said that it was a narrow, flashlight or a brick or worse, yet the wrong side of a baseball bat. Those are the three things they came up with. None of them did the type of damage that was done to that child's skull by a karate, in training sword John Douglas criminal prior profile? Instead of whoever did this as far as just breaking the ends off, what they perceived to be a paintbrush handle was extremely strong because it's the short not very long the brush handle short for canvas, work and he's dead dead person.

had to be very strong in their risk in their risk and in their gas building. He is a car were of ornate. Would the wood is half of the log it might, be anywhere from from afoot your foot and a half to three feet. Tall early happened along and he cars most beautiful, carvings of native american indian man native american warriors the medicine man, never women, never children. as I'm one of those carvings that one was seven hundred dollars in the back. If you look at the w, I l, l with the hangman's noose and that w and that I and those owls are all through that ransom note, as especially on the last. Two pages. Where he's not so careful extraordinary, he also what the ransom note, very very interesting that One letter in particular these someone, you gotta, look. this handwriting expert per se, was so unusual about the one letter in that ransom. That's brilliant,

your part actually boy, and there is a letter p like people or puddle and it has a slash across at an angle where you're going see that again, somewhere else is there. an old age, ass tape, the seven deadly sins on the jacket of debt Vhs tape are listed, the seven deadly sins, and whereas they slash on the middle letter of each of the since John douglas, and whoever does just watch movies. All the time has a lot of time on their hands takes some verbiage from the different movie. wayne etc and put it into the ransom, now incorporated the ransom now show when I took a copy, a bill. Ramses location to the greatest score and a two and a half page ransom, while a copy of it? I took a tool for answer criminologists the criminal crop that we have here, an ocean county or for the state police department, and I was

I took him by the grace of god, as he's coming out of the building I'm going into building, I reported to him that a dead rat was found at my front door, but I would like him to look at something, and I showed him the two dogs since the ransom. No, I show I didn't know about their paid by the way. Up. Until this moment I showed him bill. Ramses Parkinson vaporized go application, one they disappear, but everybody forgets. There were two of them and he looked at it and it didn't take him very long. What's so ever because he pulled out a magnifying glass, it always seems to keeping us. pocket. He pulled it out. He looked at both documents and here's his deck words. There is a letter p with a slash across it from the top right down to bottom left. That is in both documents Tat tells me that the author of the ransom note and the author of the application to the greatest school is one and the same person, because I had never in my very long career theme that ever before and now

I am looking at two different documents with that very same: usual letter p, and they both have that slash across it. Why? Because one is a deadly, since it has that flashed across the entire peat is the sense of pride. There is no cure for the sin of pride Pride is why germany died beside. The fact that you did receive is money pride and jealousy because all the but his own words, all the other siblings donut over the not ill named ill. Germany was here stay away for another year. That's where his anger kay trump, but not receiving it? Somebody had to pay for him not coming backwards at one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars. If Jon Benet paid the bill, let's discuss some of your efforts that have brought you the well said you wanted. Obviously, but you talk about the amount. broken investing It is a society of cold cases and kenneth me ends and that you were invited and people like Henry leave that had some

The conclusions to your work is a forensic pathologist. Tell us about this. American investigation investigate the society of court cases in your meeting there. Oh, I have slowly. First of all, it should me a place it should be mentioned about detective. Kenneth means the touch of kenneth means. Is them and the founder of american investigators decided called cases. He had a case. It troubled him. He could not come to a satisfactory conclusion, which was justice for them He had no problem sharing that information with another detective and they walked paces. So there is a Fresh wise on each there, own case on by another detective. There was you, don't normally see that an homicide cases, because it so well that both cases had a successful result. What happened next is this brilliant man, detective kenneth, mays he agonized american investigative society of cold cases. What that is now

round the world. Homicide experts, forensic experts there now for this this time under the wing of this courageous, very intelligent carrying man they're coming together and their sharing information, the cooperating in homicide cases. Who can see that one missing puzzle that I might not have been able to see. I dont have a eagle issue. I have a desire to fight for the families of the victims and their Loved ones, for everyone could rest in peace. Those who have taken from us wrongly rest in peace, but their families, who are aching for closure. Look for this man easy points. Video in north carolina. You will see what he looks like these days and then do a pang in reference to his phone number and his general contract. His phone number collect his dna, it will match

It will not manage its really that simple, but to do nothing about the list of what is left to be done. There is no logical explanation for that always argue very march Melinda whoever coming on talking about your book secret santa my murderer, the truth dominate completed, puzzle for those whom I want to take a look at that more information about this case and this book job website and you do any social media. He asked the website is john bananas. True case history, dot net in I am constantly under from podcast, based on request on people. Randall Then you have the facebook page is well yes as an AL. I a dot you? U, I want to. Thank you so much melinda cooler secret santa my murderer. The true jonbenet completed puzzle, so much for the sooner you and you have a great evening and good night good night and thank you beg you.