What did they plan to do? Next? Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow and one of the rare figures in academia who is not deeply knowledgeable but wise. We are grateful to have him on to assess what we saw last night in the debate. Thank you. I think there was two debates. There was the optics and the atmospherics. If you read the transcript later in what was said, its quite different, it reminded me in the 60s of Kennedy, Nixon everyone thought Kennedy looked calm and poised, but what he actually said was trivial compared to Nixon, who looked angry and tired Trump Interrupted and Biden was Trump Interrupted and Biden was calm her. He cant answer court packing because hes made this

Devils bargain with the left and that constrains him. Trump is not trying to delude anybody. What you see is what you get fracking great law and order absolutely in the past, in the present in the future that hurt him that he tried to interrupt because he had the better message. The first five minutes was wonderful. He was calm, but I think he got the idea he was going to rattle Biden and he interrupted Biden and he didnt understand that when Biden is free to speak thats when he goes off the train of thought and he gets ridiculous. All of these newspaper and visual people in the media interrupt him to help him out when he lost his train of thought. Everybody thought Trump interrupted him, but if he hadnt interrupted him, we wouldve been sure that

he said nonsense. I would say if I could be more controversial. I dont, like the format, this gotcha question its like getting on a horse and saying you have trickled minutes to buck and youre going to stop immediately if youre going to incite a candidate. What do you expect when you ask this question didnt you at Charlottesville say this when he didnt say it and then he gets angry and you say two minutes. Stop and youve got to be absolutely symmetrical. If youre going to mention Charlottesville a very controversial topic and I think misrepresented, then youve got to go to Biden and say whats the most recent controversial racial. What did you mean by you aint, black or state? You want to accept the election whats going to be the counterpart its going to be something like that into her administration, try to disrupt the transition and really cause almost a coup and not accept the twenty sixteen election there wasnt that symmetry, and I

think that marred the debate. What was the strategic analysis of it? I guess what happened is you are right about that? A lot of people who got a reassuring message from Trump that he is the protector of prosperity and law and order were turned off by the interruption, and maybe he lost the swing vote. On the other hand, he rubbed up his base. There are deplorables, irredeemables have not come out to vote that might get revved up and he might if we can do some of Bidens base, who said wait a minute youre, flopping and flipping all over. You made a bargain with us that youre supposed to get this radical agenda through its hard to tell it also depends on the polls in two thousand and sixteen the mainstream polls were wrong. The Wall Street Journal NBC. You name it and they had trump losing by quite a lot now they are saying the same thing and we dont know whether they are wrong again or if somehow theyre going to be right and the outlier polls were

right in twenty sixteen and they are considered because Trump is considered within a margin of error and things Rasmussen and Emerson and Zogby. That means is Trump either had a draw, and he is ready for debate number two where presidents usually do better in the second debate or he was behind and he had to make this up and we are going to find out very quickly. I think theres going to be a sense in the Biden campaign that I dont think they can get out of it, but they are going to try to float balloons and say you know what it was so much so combative. Do we really want to go through this again thinking that they have their lead maintained? I dont think they increased it. I dont know if that suggest they dont want to go through this again or if they feel they squeaked by and they dont want to risk their success. I want to ask you in the minute we have left, since you have studied political systems going back thousands of

years to the classical era, the idea of changing the Supreme Court, the Electoral college, the filibuster is a newer innovation, but adding to the size of the union in order to pack. The House and Senate put this into some context. For us, these are not moderate proposals. These seem like blows against the system itself. They are expected thats. What the french revolution was about it wasnt about changing the government are making a constitutional republic out of a monarchy. It was changing, even the dating system, even the days of the week and the months and destroying the church. The left does not have a message: people will embrace contrary to human nature. They decide were all going to share and everybodys going to be equal. By result, the Democrats realize that message is not going to go anywhere. We arent back to forty hour, workweek, disability, social security that people embrace. They are saying we have to

change the demographics with open borders. After one hundred and fifty years we have to get rid of the nine person Supreme Court. After two hundred and thirty three years, we have to get rid of the Electoral College and get rid of the one hundred and ninety year filibuster sixty two year, tradition of fifty states, because we cant win on a current agenda. So we are going to change the rules. Thats typical throughout history of the left. It doesnt require a majority and I think youre right about that. If its done in a particular fashion and people dont speak out against it, whether it was in France or in Russia or during the 60s, passivity feels it and empowers it. People have to say we arent going to change the rules you play within the field, youre not going to go outside the sideline thats, very important, thats. One reason why Joe Biden would never answer that question and it was frustrating for Trump. I just wish that he wouldve focused on that more, but I could see what he was frustrated and I

dont think the moderator really helped Biden to account to answer those questions thats. What the debate was about an well and see what happens in the second debate, but ive a feeling it didnt change for now, whatever the polls have recorded before, you can argue about what they recorded, but I think we will go into the second debate with a sense of desperation for both candidates. I strongly agree with you at this moment. Bravery is the vital virtue.