Even though this is Jim Gaffigan's fifth appearance on WTF, it's the first time he and Marc actually have a full-length conversation worthy of the garage. Jim talks with Marc about big families, absent dads, clean comedy, Greg Giraldo, working with your spouse, finding your inner voice, and food.
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I know you can hear it in your head? I apologize
You can hear my sick had in your head, but
just wait is what it is
to tell what it is anymore
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hi. This is some weird combination. Did the flu in the cold fuck each other, and now
this weird thing, this hybrid from cold thing. That's what I think it is because
we mobilise like a flu, but I feel fully how little fever my heads, our stuff tab,
my chest, bills are always sit not at all night.
I got a little. It is clear that down there, not tat productive, but it's in
some deep gotta demon and my lungs, but I feel
care. I feel better than I did nothing worse and getting sick on a shoot man hate before
star whining about my sickness.
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those folks will see our goes.
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I want to entertain them. I'm here. I'm an entertainer.
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can do poster. I, for every city really by different artists,
and then cut a deal with them, maybe make the posters available at the venue
for the show that the poster represents. That's my
big boy. My big merge plan
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York with the show before was really an shows him and his wife
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and then I did another one backstage somewhere. Where I interviewed
figures eighty miles and then
we did a small one. These
he's been on the show a few times in one version or another, but this is
the only for them
did he ever interview, so there
exciting,
yeah. I don't know what I have, but it was really unnerving to do
it's going to be shooting a show, because you want to have a good time. You want to be any, you want to be acting, you want to be, you know, available with full focus and energy and then, like I'm, being dragged down by this,
goddamn monster inside of me, this virus- and I know maybe I'm a baby. I guess I am, but I was sick man
and as as people who are ready to go
work. No
There is no not going to work.
you know where she is show with my name on it. I can't call enemy like today's, not gonna, feel good
which is the a was closed down shop. Take they had four hundred kay
now we all feel good tomorrow. Whatever.
would cause. I don't know
so on thursday. I guess it was
they had a doktor coming when I started to feel goes getting sick. We had a set, doktor come in
I I said I don't tell you to tell you manage aside, should see somebody I dunno what to do. Maybe I need antibiotics or antibiotic guy, but maybe gimme
give me some antibiotics. She said I'll give me, I don't know. If they'll do anything she goes, you know I have the b twelve shots and my yeah.
She has a lot of people, love em. They swear by my god. Never had to be twelve shall know what it means. Is that the thing that no
god Baluchi used to do after a five day,
coke bender and
it's in galatea, ninth street
ass.
be twelve shot. Isn't that the the remedy for for hard living?
yeah. I know
yeah I got one of you all, and so I did it-
gotta be twelve shot. I think, for about an hour I felt very, very lively,
I know it's hard to tell maybe I'll, maybe it didn't buy
tell you this. I got to work
with them?
see Davis
was playing my manager in a couple episodes this year. She might know her
She was on the original office
ricky ger vase and it was a real honour and a blast too. I do
made it scenes with her another guy
that. Weird highlight for me, and this is kind
bizarre one.
is a year we do casting
people come into reefer parts was apart on. Another episode for
doctor- and I looked at the
ass things I worked at the
the actors who read you know: I see them. Often the casting agent and Gregory white was one of the guys who read for the day
actor partner gregory. Why,
a guy in a mcdonald's commercial that old guy that a lot of people thought looked like me. I get back,
it all the time. My balls busted constantly, because I look like an old version of me.
Nuggets commercial. I think
either you nobody adele, but this is the guy that was in that commercial who looks like me, and I guess I do and will cop to the fact that he will
like me, and I could
I myself am. I got I gotta higher that go gotta have that guy and we it was hilarious.
two areas we did a great scene and it was a is very exciting.
He and his weird way, but
so shooting like. I'm I'm glad I feel a little bit like my mother
can I just you know it's weird when he gets sick, you get angry. Unlike
Did I can, I know people deal with chronic illness and, like it's just its horrifying year, just feel
mobilized and I was
hoping I feel a little better by today
And I do I do
my voice back? So we
and consistency.
Do. You know what I mean: casino issued sequence, so like hey, what like
How come in their last seen marked in sound, not sign, as he did you just do you just get it?
a horrible cold
driving to the store.
so here
For you, nobody notice, you know, I'm saying, do not occur
seen with the amanda booth, an actress in there
a person. She was great funny scene.
Oh my god, being sick. I wanted do doozy, peanut butter on toast,
A butter and honey on toast
that comes from, but I got
I gave myself license. I must have eaten a and full jar, peanut butter and a half
for bread on toast,
I won t when I was sick. Is that good woody,
This is a dumb star,
the cold punch of fever in the face starve, recalled feed
fever. I don't know man. I woke up with a fever ploughed through.
A much peanut butter and toast had some juice took
bunch of vitamins took some.
By onyx do and all I can have,
fever dreams, those really the best, those really the best.
as a sober person,
don't get to enjoy,
mild, whose energetic fun so
when the fever dreams came, one of them was,
We compelling the alone,
bizarre one hour
on an island or something, and I and I had to be somewhere else, but I had taken a
to the island
and I'd parked the boat and
I was gonna, fly off the island, but I knew that I'd taken the boat there and I didn't really know what to do about the boat.
I know I was gonna get back. I don't know if I can leave the boat. Where was supposed to be left, but I was
in a conundrum is really difficult situation like I think I might
have to take this boat all the way back to the mainland, because I did
and didn't bring it out here. I can't just leave the boat here with nobody known was bold, is now is too big.
problem. I don't know how that resolved itself, not
compelling fever dream not, as
telling as the dream I had
that my brain was
reprogramming itself
I had this we're dream that my brain was.
kindly rebuilding
programming itself, and it was beginning with every
with images of every architectural structured I'd ever been in. So just like.
Flash of structures and buildings does my picture after
Sure buildings after building was like a mutoscope.
with those of the ad when they were nickelodeon arcade thing. I
benny Levine used to have one in his shoe store in pompton lakes. When I was a little kid we roll this. He kind of crank this thing on the side and kind of flips pictures over so
moving like I said
predecessor to the film projector, but it was like that.
All. The pictures were different and in denmark and sequence in there,
folding into my brain matter?
fuck man,
I wonder if that really happened. I wonder if that during their fever, my brain can it
my maybe my hypothalamus?
just did a reboot because of the heat don't know, I don't know
terror, worrying about it, hey! You know what let's talk to Jim gaff again
do you have you have kids, so you have to have taught you
the time to do things that you might might mr gotten away from absolutely like the the superhero thing. I never
You just getting into superheroes
I never. I never got into. I dont believe and here s why it's very profound statement. There are no such things as heroes. No, but my kids
right or man with five or six spiderman of its here, and we have some fun.
It's frequently by game, but I mean, but it's not, but are you finding your like enjoying the stories like you like how what why? How did I miss this and yeah? I think some, how I? How did I miss this or what
are you doing Jim
I was the youngest of sick, so I think that it must have been a lot of shit around left over to go through. No, I think there wasn't. I think there was any units
star wars I die store were a star wars in the movie dinners. Maybe
and my kids? You know we own it see. I watch it regularly.
Once a week, I've been darth vader for three years
How will we really I've? I was,
north vader. At my son's might he's
aid now at his fourth birthday party
I did the lights. Everything me, I'm not one
Well you you guys get it. We can share the baby. So
What is your brother's? What what was the breakdown of the siblings? The siblings are yours, four boys and two girls and I'm the youngest of six. There wasn't like a stack of records in a bunch of comic, but there were there were records. There was. There was not an
books, nowhere thing when there they like
What was the way out? What's it our old's, your brother,
The oldest in my family is my sister, kathy and cheese. I should be like.
hundred now- would now,
and my brother, MIKE is a fifty's
yeah somewhere, and it's all pull our even oh. It's like who cares for you kind, and no, I mean I kind and know that you're their six kids over lake, seven or eight years, they're, just thirty stalled.
Now they're all their older than me. The other way you have all how old were you? When
these saw them all leave. I imagine yes, yes,
I've, always wonder about that was difficult.
The show is a little bit you're, leaving me here with these people that
crazy, your parent yeah, you know, there's a little bit of you know
enthusiasm wanes
If you're still here
Still, here is how there was some of that, but there is.
so you know when I started off. Isoude there's rather such a
an amount of distrust that develops in parents.
That generation right hours, were they, however? They they around no, no either one of thanks for bringing up mall it now hawk by
sorry. No, so they you know
so they were not. There were being
but I don't know what they were, not helicopter parenting. It was kind of vienna seinfeld as the joke. As I see it, did
yeah I mean so there were that kind of parent right, but they were
but they had been lied to
my so many teenagers. By the time I got there. There were just like your guilty, and I was like I didn't. Do anything wrong like just go to your room and you're like our right, so they were jaded says if in earlier you know- which I think is pretty important for comedians this. You know it
you can describe it as paranoia. Our point of view were so
vision. I think I learn that for my parents, how their parent you have, apparently we feel are you feel like you're paranoid, I think there's a little bit.
I guess so day wants a type of defensiveness
our job as self protecting like yeah what he must be up to something yeah. I you know when you do
I think, a hundred years ago I did
I met with our meeting with people. There were writers
tv show merely well, you know
really. You will capture some of your paranoia,
paranoia and and
the guy cited this joke, I had about mexican food. He was like well, that's kind of a paranoid boat cause I've,
thing that near seven
trays, seven names just for the same type of food right and he's like that's a very paranoid perspective of things like I mean it, I dont,
tat. It is, I think, it's a simple application made.
I think that you know that's kind of paranoid of you to think that it is now
ok. So why so many kids on your parents part we were they. Would they distant
like they want. Now they want to do is to feel uncomfortable and they did it. What that way, we all know is very common. People would have a lot of kids six six,
people. I will have to cross our family than at thirteen.
And the mom would collect all the milk jugs
in the garage with all the newspapers, she was crazy.
Furthermore, the so that's not common, that's crazy! What note third, but large families were pretty common thirteen thirteen. I think,
there's somebody who had some
Now it's a wonder. Arson went from out of our men in the old testament who had not injuries. Hungary, there's the but thirteen. Like my wife, one and nine days
where'd. She grow up, no walking
grew up where in Indiana
but there is also a lot of benefits from a larger family there there's
can you know Calo is no. There is something and socialist asian I feel like that, and I think that's true, as you would only growing up in your own neighbourhood. But what is it neighborhoods in your house? Why? Let me ask you sure? Why is there anything wrong with someone having a large family? There's nobody welding wrong with it. There is,
nothing wrong with it now, but I've had people secretly said they're, like I think so corporate argue breed about like it's
there were there not like a dog,
that are gonna run in the street, their human being's right and they will do eventual so easily. Eventually, you know some of its nature and nurture, but some of it is they're gonna, be who how they're gonna be. It's like right, rice,
if you were raised with caring parents. That's all that really matter. No, I don't think I have. I don't have kids so, like you know, you're asking the wrong guy, but I think that most people just react
we're like wow. That seems like a lot of not you like
How can I be that selfless?
how can you like getting most be more fundamentally salvation the idea of of of sea,
Kids roaches overwhelms the modern brain there like. How do you have time to do anything? I think we ve been.
culturally told that it's weird, I think that people have been told that like
the way when you think about it. If someone says I have six cats,
their crazy yeah. But what? If someone really enjoy six cats and their permanent isn't covered with canada?
that's a long shot. I mean
It's a rare thing. You're talking about, or I don't know, that's not good reason. Maybe, but I mean, but you weren't you, six cats with one leg missing on each of the cats right mother
What I'm saying is that year, with six kids are going to have your shit all over the house. There's not going to be any stopping it. My wife is, you know, pretty thorough, like our houses really clean or yeah yeah, there's not toys all over the place. Now
would there be look my I'm a slob here so she's going
after you do in my apartment like if you saw my apartment, one single lay people like me
Others in sisters would come over to my romania to live in an apartment, new york yeah. You met most big. Now you may.
Have a big like now engaged me, I'm around. We moved here, but
my my siblings used to want to come to my apartment so that they could laugh at at it'd, be like we got. You got to see Jeremy's apartment cause. I had the tub in the kitchen right, yeah they're, like there's a window for no reason in the middle of the apartment and I'm like well, there used to be different families living rear,
due to someone that lives in the suburbs, it's just insanity. Oh, did you grow up in a rural environment? It wasn't rural, but did you know I in height
I definitely went to a couple of parties where I sat on a haystack or I a couple.
is where I was.
in a trailer park drinking beer sure, but
Then again I was also there were there. Were you know, Chicago is
if a minute right right, and so there is no, it was. It was pretty nice,
Now you may I grew up in new mexico. We ve taken drives out to we're places.
In drink on raw yeah yeah I mean I could. I could romanticize it and make it sound. Like you know, and then I was eating one summer aid only hey you know, but it really was the romance as it was essentially a. You know, a suburban existence right in what
What would you dad do? My dad was a banker. Is a banker, a banker
and at a local banks, have his own bank, where Marshall bank, at it was it, was a local bank nan in north.
India and your mom was watching children watching children and no side projects.
Meals on wheels and stuff like that
need appointing a word, so I mean that's the other thing about six guys. It's like. If the ear you dad seem like he made a nice middle class living. So there was never that panic right now there
yeah there's something about you know.
I make a decent living. So it's as long as I can afford yeah.
Since cheeseburger mri acknowledge, I need a boat yet remained each that's how I was describing Michael o you and I can get my boat. You know that's not hearing the sacrifices you'd have to react to make for having kid. It is
There are minimal slick son.
Gonna be balder a year earlier this year
A girl would vote what you're saying is a you'll. Do we and whatever is necessary for the kids and you have the kids
and what I get from these kids is is a measure
and I know it sounds like a rationalization, those actually using what is its voice in your head. That is decided that people are against big families and that that somehow
saying that if you get a lot I rose, they are because they're they're. All against that.
All out to your bare nuggets again goes right back to the beginning. You have it that's a voice in your head. That's up paranoia! This is self judgment thing. Really, I'm getting reprimanded for being paranoid by mark me ass. You are
because no because I've learned things about it, what it is is there as part of your brain that go in it, and I think you vocalize that in your act, that's sort of the
that weird invoice. You do is that one that sort of checking you all the time there's a a party, that's sort of like a. How should I you know- and maybe it's
Maybe now I'm gonna have self awareness right right, you have self awareness is, and I think that that is
part of it, but the voice is not always them do not always smart right.
Do you know what I mean that voice some manifestation of fear right right
So when you are young, you were brought up,
what how catholic was it. I was mostly cultural carefully.
This kind of like I hear right right. You know we go to church
Did you guys day how intermittently euro think jews and catholics have a better like that? Like you know, I saw
a regular christians or people that come to christianity later by these really old-
religions like catholicism and judaism, there was sort of the laps thing was okay, you can be socially capital they they. You know, that's when you know all this stuff happened with, or you know the the radical
Islam yeah? You know people did describe it that it's the newer of the three right right. So I know he don't like the look. We gotta give them a couple of hundred years and then they'll be drinking tea with the rest of us. Ordering extra cheese might be a long destructive way too. So, okay, but your older brothers. What did they end up doing? What was your influences when you were younger? I mean. Did you look up?
those guys yeah I was you know. I think you know
older brothers near my
the brother, my kind of rebelled. My father was the first in his family to
after many generations being in this country, to go to college, so success was wearing a coat and tie.
and
so my brother, my kind of rebelled against that and he was like I'm gonna pickup truck and I'm not worried that media and then, but all my sisters and my brothers, you know very much,
In tat kind of jobs ruined, I announced that I wanted to be
the entertainment industry or be a comedian just thought it was cute right,
he'll get our reality get past, because you know back when I
started. It was not
it was not, as you know, I do
about our g q, article as it is today.
No, I remember when you started. I remember you get more here
I knew they seem wider, even yeah. It's actually getting its
maybe the grazed better, the gray
I don't know, but I feel judged got ya know you are judged now,
judging you
and I judge you- and he has ever your hand on my firewall- is I'm trying to comfort you so much
You didn't wasn't always comedy I mean it seem like you know when you are younger than there was another agenda. The you like I'd, remember
we talked a bit
a long time ago but tat-
You might have been the enemy at some point right. The enemy.
we are working and ever
I don't know. I mean before that. Jockey friday, junkie friday, do you think the enemy Jesus Christ, this post,
the enemy, the enemy. Can I just point something out: it's like you,
You exist in these like a mythological kind of constraints that exist that don't exist. You're like we're we're doing a show in irvine you're, like you know what out there it's all these people, unlike market. Doesn't it's not like they're, not
for a gay marriage right now. These these are the people that can afford a ninety dollar ticket to see louis c k. You know it's like it's not.
it's I want to make it more complicated than that because I believe also but was I was I, what would a frat? I I was
fraternity for a year, but I never did the final pledge, but that was my
freshman year in college. But I don't think that I was in
score. Who are you know? I don't see, I don't get the feeling that you are a bully in any way. No, no! No! No! No yeah! I was definitely I mean. Look, I'm a comedian, because I was kind of
tortured, because I was so pale and real
when I moved yeah you're here in yeah,
with some of that and you know awake so
definitely the outcasts,
are you so fair, because
I'm cool, that's how god made me now. I know that I'm not! Why am? I still have scandinavian into er? I think it's irish, its tail irish
I've heard of black irish. There was a white I got. You know all the blonde hair in ireland, blind and red hair is just the vikings coming down, and so you got advice
accurately you have more than I can any. You know it's
That shows you. I think, that's interesting. You know, historically, it's just a door
like the vikings or adorable mia-
If you know the vikings, then you know that that's kind of interesting. They had horns in there that were raping and pillaging yeah menacing. They I thought of them as the vikings were a menacing, but we don't look at people in Sweden. Go hey, we gotta watch them the three vikings right, but you know the other countries were kind of like we've got to keep an eye on the movies a little before and didn't get as much press and it kind of got a solid ized and romanticize. The vikings did. You know a lot of boats and yeah that,
about us wooden both wooden boats, the horn,
in the area
so they were you. Were you the funny guy you weren't the funny guy? I was there.
guy, I would say I you know, is funniest it, but I went to a rare high school. I went to high school where there were twenty five people in my graduating class will really yet the private school
It's called. I went to one of those briefly. They threw me out. There was only like thirty five graduating seniors. It's a little weird right. The neuron is very aware, and he played team sports. How many people are a team? Did you there was a you know. There was everyone who tried out got on everyone that tried out got on right, but we were. We were good because we were good at things and I beat in wrestling. I beat the guy that was third
state in I played football george,
down, but not I wasn't a great athlete, but I would say that wrestling. My high school was very much that it didn't fit. The John hughes right stereotypes of you know:
those different kind of characters yeah, it was more like everyone was everything right rights eat enough
works because it was so small and y'all kind of knew. Each other was hard to have a quick. A quick would be what two guys yeah yours just that it was not, and then, by the end of the day, though I go, they showed the record. There wasn't you to everybody who are all its okay yeah it was, it didn't hold up, and my or my wife talk about the clique thing and it sounds terrifying, but genie right. Yes, your wife,
We wish you is involved in the last one. Yes, what's your flirting with her during last,
Does it to me. I do not. I does do it. You don't have a reputation for flirting at all either europe.
you tell me,
that your wife isn't kooky my
is very cookie. I wouldn't be with a boring woman. You can tell me that that I might not misinterpret that is forwarding
I don't know. I thought it was very well, I thought was very social boy and think that we feel menacing he felt menace. For now. I just didn't. Look. We all have friends that we're like. Aren't. I gotta keep a man you're, one of me, I'm the guy. You will you during your evil? Did you just far at its most yea it
I didn't know there is, I don't know why it happens, but it certainly
a night, it smell
like raw sewage back here right. Maybe it's because your letting gas are now having a gas at my ass, I'm tellin ya gotta was my pipe, so we didn't for she toilet or nothing. There's something happens, and I
the guy and he said that all of you
upon a hill.
He said that whoever is in the canyon below their betters venza go up through a house from the sewage in that, but I've never smell good god.
I would have asked, or do you never I've, never smiled at this bad. I'm sorry. I don't know what's going on here. Why don't do interviews at this time and I am evil how my evil you're not evil, you're, just bad
I think that you you you struggled young, definitely struggled, I'm not that I don't think you're any goddamn, saint
I most certainly not, maybe not in made me not bad in the same way. I am, we all have our demons yeah I have already. I know that arts are your wrestling playing football. There are no clicks in your high school you're at a private school. You get good grades.
But I didn't get in any comment, so I went to produce
and such a suburban struggle. It was like I didn't get in college,
woman me: will you? Parents is appointed what about your brothers and my parents? My parents went to georgetown university, they had a dog
toya and I didn't get in my brother, my irish,
when who is like twenty months older than me, god,
as indoor certain I didn't get it. Why didn't you getting my when David? You in? I think, I'm dumb
and for that after a year
at purdue yeah now, Georgetown, that's a good school. It is
it's it's where it's at d c yeah, it's a much better school now than it was then, and he went all the way through yeah finish it,
I graduated he played football at georgetown for a year yeah and then I quit was it too too much, and you know it's just depressing would youtube
both the parties and you'd be like going to practice also is a practice
thing social out into your social. I, as you can see drinking, I would
I have nightmares, I'm like kind of code of practice to my now woke up and I quit
I remember the guy who had to tell these coaches and ass one coteries used. You're gonna quit everything.
You're gonna quit your life. You're gonna quit your wife. I am I gonna care, equity.
Golly rating like a big sand, which at the time he was like a monster, but europe
try to intimidate you and is there, but I think that is one of those moments.
Who did you immediately now? You wanted to do comedy in your like right, I'm gonna, because it's much
more. It was much more of an insane pursuit,
some of it out it for me was weird because
I did a little in college and
after my sophomore year I did open MIKE's and I was trying to do it.
This can hack it
done, a little bit with another guy
thing and in ireland I always had the bug, but a man was bruce vilanch right. Yes, it was no steve, brill,
and by
I couldn't hack it on my on my own. At first, so I was drinking a lot that summer and I was waiting around doing open, mics and was brutal because they only had a new maximum Boston boston because I want to be you
kind of put it on hold until I graduated right when I got out of college in cameroon,
for three months and I went to the I went- got a job at the comedy store I mean I,
I didn't think of it is unreasonable. I was never taught any sort of sense of value
or values growing up I never was. I was not moving towards a job right in think in terms of a job. I always thought that, in terms of creative pursuits, when I was in
which I did photography. I wrote plays a role for the paper. I never never.
Thought about achieving practical right was not.
Has brought up. We brought up that way. I was brought up the very much to seek security right,
at a security, was a coat and tie what a lovely
had more that I and I was like I was a while- that of wild insecure animal. The hours
released with no sense of per of of responsibility and
this new data, doktor tat like that, which means what never home was not there
engaged in the upbringing case.
We came around to sort of established power and threaten- and
Me feel weird, but events
my dad's of that era. My dad would come home and everyone who is that guy yeah and you're, like her. I like that.
Some of my acting with initial I thing was acting excited to see this stranger.
like my daddy was a charismatic guy and a little nutty, but but I did
I never like when I look back on it, but you said your mother must have been some some stupid stabilizing, loving force. Yes very much, so I think that she- and
an humour was a very important thing
making her laugh was an important thing among the siblings and why? Because she was like you knew that you are aware in or out. Well I think it was just too it was a difficult task. So humour was,
something you give someone that was you know didn't
I am also doing an impression of my dad from my siblings. Here was an important ally
it served rather like maybe we'll we won't beat him to take his food.
Now is the time I was not a killer had for food right right, ear, the funny guy you dixon ticks misty, really some steam. Yes,
alright. So but you go to school and you go for what I studied finance
What did you really studied? Very just kind of biting your time is biting my time, but I was yet
my siblings, who had gone before mood studied like international terrorism before there was terrorism by the way. This was like
Ass separatists me that my brother, MIKE studied and
two
They graduating they couldn't find jobs, and my dad was very much with me in my older brother, whose right above me
He was a year ago should study, financer, accounting and straw.
only encouraged it, and you know I was told that if you do
then you'll be happy and you'll get a good job and then you enjoy
a job and then your play golf for five years and you'll die, and so it's
if you wait it out. I did that.
I remember the night before a graduate from college are saying to a friend of mine. I was like cash, you know why, because we all edge,
another cashing. All I really want to do is be a comedian near by
I'm sure everyone wants to do that and she was like. No, not not. Everyone wants to do that and, like everyone wants to do that- and she looked at me like nobody wants to do that right
and so what? What inspired you do that the woman in europe when was it at my you're? In college, this is when the night, before a granted by
How did you get your mind into comedy? Who would you because I had I had worked
as a doorman at a place called the comedy stop in washington d c, and so you just that, was just a job you sought out too or whether it was right near my eye, and they were looking for somebody who you went to look for it.
me and my roommates all were doorman there, where we see people in book,
you have common, you just go that way. I guess just it was just to get cannot end, but I had also hosted a town, one show which was called cabaret with us
and of mine my senior year, which was what was it
how and shows a big deal where I run with dress in taxes and and
hosted that now is
very rewarding, even though I did it when I did it, I was just completely drunk the entire time. Did you do bit yeah? I did bets kind of schools,
effect, a basic had not done any stand up yet now, ok view. This is like right, you you were there, the funny guy knew that was the guy that people would like
was a guy who actually ended up being an agent at IC m and he used to get me stone just so that I would be funny for you, it'd be like let's get africans,
And so then he would get me high and they were and then I will just kind of starting rambling, it's getting it.
A dog or cat. I always just it's like when you give it lets. Give a dog some hot sauces, see how a reaction to that. So it's pretty amazing. How lazy do? Oh, it's you know cause the dog.
They forget they freak out, but they don't. They can't figure out what it is right that they, like you. Don't you not torture the dog, but I just like this is very
strain the start hitting now knows that when I say torture and then they go back on a more
work in the door at that place in your own. Your seein, who, like me, are you is that when you start to get the bug gained, I I don't think I don't think that gave me the bug. I think that do miss defined it
the right for me, right, like you owe you sought, is a job that could be done. Yes right,
where I saw pat Paulson
running for president? Yet again the s
I saw you know, different comedians. I think it was maybe a six month job
no one main impact on a really
I have a horrible memory yeah, but you would know like if you're like that, guy good.
People that were good here.
deprived work with them now, yeah, I'm sure that can I see
Bobby Collins party, went through their ebby calvin, our richer jenny, I dont know there was
but it was too interesting. I am specific memories of doubt.
just have a
a general memory of like you know I could do this year and so but of course
I didn't do it
what about you, you were still in school there, buddy boy. Obviously you did you find them entertaining, or we just sitting undergoing some of them a lot of em now right through it
I can't believe this guy manner from now. You'll have not. I believe me. I know I'm not going.
why are they laughing
yeah, why are they laughing or an end?
Some of it was just. I just saw confidence on the stage and right and says yeah. I was pretty impressed by their cause.
for right. So you you graduate yeah
and you want to do calmly that point, but what you end up doing I'm
alt and and
go to
amber, and then I shall aryan tampa for a year.
all pale guy who doesn't like the outdoors
and I remember I I, what,
there and one of the first I used to always tell people
I was at a bar no time somebody about politics and some guy said
I said well, why aren't you going to watch are wearing? Are you gonna vote for Dukakis? The shows you how old I am and the guy goes.
is he's going to let everyone out of jail and he's without any irony- and I was like you know- that's not true, and he was like well an hour.
Oh all right, so you know but
there's, nothing wrong with them. It is not right for me, you know
and so then he added.
what kind of wild west down there man? You know it was it's: it's it's an interesting plan, yeah and so then I went to ni
working, got an advertising job at I remember having
what I wrote in miami vice episode when I was in Tampa, because I wanted to get enter, entertainment and
member, having a little micro, cosette, recorder, wow, record ideas, but remember saying if
I'll find out what I'm gonna. Do I'm ending this, because I
done everything that you know culturally. I was
the post to do when I naturally, but-
so your dad why you diet studied hard. I had gone to college. I studied the security thing I got.
the job that was decent money and I was
well and I sat at it. So at that point,
like you. I just don't know what I'm gonna do
and so when I got to new york, I worked in advertising and did an improved class because of fear of stage fright aware
at the national improvisational theatre, which was
three you cv way
priority
were dying. Man like these got the this was all run by scientologists
did you know that gone in? I cannot. They were very nice about. It. Didn't really push it
why are they running an ember glass? I don't know, I don't know,
and vulnerable people know I think they did. I think they were just
it is that ended up. You know it's like theirs
tons of an ever guys. Aren't I get it, but there's gotta be ok and so
how'd. You find that out
because my mother died. While I was doing improvin there like you should take a class as
I turn class for grief. I think it was
look when you lose someone you're look, you know you don't know where you're going and that's when they said it the well. I don't
Look. I don't want to presented as malicious. That's what made them delicious. It's malicious! You don't have to be diplomatic, I'm just saying that they saw are vulnerable. You're upset, you are hurt, never like! Maybe you should take a class. Maybe this would help you yeah yeah,
and then, when I was doing improv this guy, that was during the improved classes with me, dear
maybe do stand up and I you know
that's what I need it, I needed some of the same coin. Let's do this year and so
I did this stand up workshops
and did it that night
remember what that was. That was at fifty five grove, but
at that time it was called the duplex,
oh yeah that shows there yeah and they had a picture of woody allen up there and and joan rivers. I think it was just kind of a gay club
bright day they later on and became a burlesque e sort of it was like a piano bottom right. Right right was definitely piano bar, but it would,
not an upstairs right yet was upstairs rice. The show right I'd, I've done a show there. So
number. I was the first summit.
That knows, amazing. It was amazing euro. I think
like. I was like I've finally found out what I want to do here and then are bound for the next four years. Now, not none
completely, but you know I definitely I feel like it
takes me longer to figure things out, but here there was no spots to be had in the city. So I remember one: every year was echoed I remember when you started- and I remember when I start to see you euro
kind of like ie you'd its. I remember you,
talk your shirt in a lot:
and euro your kind of having yet your hair was bushehr yeah and you are a little sweaty and the OECD seem kind of miserable yeah
very very knows what I
describe it has even started with Geraldo we're and geraldo, and I met he was also champions waiting and we're both wearing suits
he was a lawyer and I was an advertising I switched to copyright and by that
Little creative? Isn't it it was.
It was a little creative. I mean a little near by
ever now, any campaigns. German. I worked on some campaigns, but it's there
something about standard comedy where were spoiled by the the
of hierarchy and bureaucracy right where
you know we in advertising there's a lot of it
there are so many good coming.
The un's I'd like when I started here's. How are you is it again? Eighty nine, ninety, ninety one, ninety two and the way
I viewed it. There was
mean geraldo in Juba, and then the
the new group, which was
Tell you
dairy, Louie, Jeffrey,
ass. It is to cover years and then and then above them, the old guy was the old guys here. So you guys would be getting spots and slowly chipping away at these spots, but
so geraldo and I started driving out too long island and then sometimes I would go to the college
comedy tree in our
a the tree house, three house in connecticut.
As I see it, you spend a lot of time, a great yeah.
How savage that's horrible. Its amazed
I can't believe it.
It was really believe it it's real.
we are so so smart and so
You can get a hand on that ship, but it's it's also.
You know I'm sure the people can view it as a
It's a you know, that's, you know he was kind of a Rock'N'Roll comedian, but when I met him he was not like that. Now he was not and-
like a hard working or young rivalry royally, and how are you and
and some of it is
You know I don't know, but it's
it's. What people don't realize is it's the repeated amount of
Jackson, like you, think you reach a threshold where your idea
letterman now everything's, ok, yeah, but there's some.
about stand up where you get
the errand him in industry in general, you get either too much praise
sound or none right. So you are you
kind of its kind of a real repeated abuse
the situation at the commission commit smack, commit smack and
oh, I witnessed greg, you know,
I'm a central deal after comedy central deal after commerce central deal and
He was somebody who had
miss amount of success in his life. He he I mean
We had great in our personal skills he got me on.
We would go to long island. These long island geyser be like we're not, but none the dull, we white guy, yeah and gradual billy he's a friend of mine you because gregg washroom queens he could deal with the eyes and
so he had.
all the skills we went to harvard law. He had every
situation, he could talk, but there is
and stand up is a bit of a meritocracy but the entertainment and
it is not right. So
yeah, that's why you were met. You remember me is miserable, is like
I believe I can pass the comic strip bright and so
It was fine with that stuff. He could work that, but the rejection of
things that used to work. I mean things that should work, but just the bureaucracy of television
and I think it really took a toll on him, yeah yeah and there's going to be some something's can take a toll on ya yeah and you know- and he was you he just he tried to get a handle on it and it's a it's a sickness. You know it's hard, you know, but like
when you were wandering around the worry you depressed- oh yeah. I think so
there's something about you know
a low grade, I'm in my mind, depression, kind of displaced,
self and anger sound, familiar
sure and Eurasia, though I knew I think
like I was raised, irish catholic, so a temper, but it's just you know
you know, the anger didn't match the crime
hey, that's where that's where it was. That's where I could see it and go oh and so
So is there some chemical stuff there, but it there's. I think
There is also something we're all crazy, blake comedians.
And were, control freaks and those elements that
can control and stand up and there's elements we can control.
and I never thought of myself as a control. Freak
as, like you know, when you're on stage. That's your thing right yeah mean we got the microphone right and we have
our bag attracts here, and so there is
something about the unit but work
It's not set up where your gaining the approval of combat club or theatre here and now
getting all that praise and then shutting down and then going to our bedroom right or a hotel room here. It's like
I mean I'd like to see you know even the most well adjusted tom hanks version of a human being be able to pull them
they do that airline to do I get. We did likewise. Fifteen thousand sixty thousand people I gotta
tori oda fact and I draw
a year- and I had some cereal right. It's bizarre right! So it's and I think
for me. It's like one of the things I ve learned is that I think
above all you know,
intellectually, can go well. You know I've figured this stuff out, but you have to repeatedly learn at me. I have to sit. There
go. You know what you are jealous. You are jealous of this situation.
what you you are in a vulnerable situation,
near like the anvil thing, it's fun, but it's also, I'm spoiled
as I go and I do these theatre shows, with my hand, picked opener
I don't have to worry we're about what I'm gonna follow you. I know what I'm going to follow and I think there's something great about that, but there is also something
Where you can get lazy was kind of fun. It was fine.
following Sarah and it was fun following bill bird, but it's also a little. You know
I like when that night, that I follow bill berm like wait, a minute he's. You know he is like you know it's like you know this anger, like fact, bash
and then I'm going up there won't work.
Its army musically. This doesn't fit
yeah well you're Jim deaf again, I know, but some of it is you think that I think, there's you
I look back. I was completely impressed with you. I mean I I got on my show and I talked about it. I know I heard it yeah I mean I was like you know a guy. You know I know bill. I know sarah, I know everybody, but I don't get to see you work that much. I see them around a bit so like seeing you. I come down off the mountain.
and just gonna lay it out with with with your music and you're you're sort of rhythm.
I completely impressing I was talking to backstage like now might put don't you know you do
every night in front of thousands of people here
but I know buddy, I mean we're all like there yet we're all like that or you know what it was and actually you and I are like that- I don't I feel like I look at other people murkier who cares yeah and I'm like what you don't care, but I think it's important to to care
important. I think they're, pretending man really ok, they're just around that yeah, I think they gotta be. You know, yeah, definitely ye, I mean
like you, do, does not room for more than two of us
walking ongoing on a guy atlanta.
They can be able to hear what they're they're like is, but there is a meets the lessons of comedy it's so great
cause you're having young, kids and saying just the battlefield of childhood. I mean it's insane and my kids are very nice.
And they have friends in everything what did an ages- terrifying, ten aid, five, three two so just drop of my kids off it soccer camp, my older ones and abroad,
three year old and I turn round at some kid bullying
eight year old is bullying a three year old maya to hold myself back from punching this kid I was. I do not ever think
you're, like it's like, you might, and I do this. My wife thinks I'm crazy, like if anyone's ever rude to my kid, I go right up to the mega. What are you doing? What are you doing?
and she's like Jim, you look crazy, like I don't care and maybe
My kid will see like my dad is crazy, but he's got my back where I know so. Have you, kids has bombed the I grab this kid and I tried I tried matter,
greece is of a grab them. What was he doing heat in my,
three year old wearing a baseball cap in three year old sister, like a rang at tanks, they don't know what they're doing, and so he flipped it off and he is- and he was kind of like pointing it at my son. So I grabbed
by the arm, and I was like you're coming with me. So I went to find a camp counselor, the soccer camp here in the sack working the guy
it's just like this summer, manhattan soccer, canada, it's nothing fancy mia! This guy is like you know. This beats working b being a janitor right. I said this guy was bullying of the my three year old son. He looked at me like I don't care, I really don't care and I was like alright ralph the I did the right thing, at least at least yeah,
it would have been who areas, leaders bullied you. So what's the problem yet so, what's the problem,
When did you meet g,
I met her in? I guess
Being nine two thousand two thousand I would think
had confidence in you know till I was in my thirty
real competence, real confidence where we are fake it for a while. It's where you know this, sir, a beautiful woman, a tartar she might want to talk to you before their address. I hadn't gone glutton, gluck, Nicky, peeping out so gap, I think by then I had some confidence and I'd dated some a train.
women, so I was not intimidated that she was beautiful or or a strong woman or anything like that. So
Is she turned out to be the best thing for you in the world? I think so I mean it's. It's
Pretty amazing I mean you know. I talk about her being my writing partner that, while that took a walk,
it's very counter. Intuitive right, like you've, had many girlfriends here. How often do you sit there? You know you know I'm going to write with her. It's never what you guys were kind of writing together before you really were public about it.
I would say there was some which she definitely was kind of
coaching me in my acting,
and where did you come from that? She asked yes
is like a masters degree in theater and all that, and so then she,
on sketch comedy into done. Some stand right, and so she knew the comedy world, but you
comedian to a comedian, giving you a tie, you're, always kind of like plied fancy. I know you thought of that right, and so
I assume that would be the relationship with her
but if it became
very much. You know that
great insights and then there was
her you know we would have debates on where a joke would go or the value of doing it. This way verses. That way, and
So eventually it came to a point where I was like yeah. You know she's. Definitely, my writing partner,
I mean I definitely have the final say right. It's not like I'm gonna. You know I'm doing this ten minutes, because my wife made me do it. It's not that
but there is also something about in this business. It's I don't care about credit. I care about the product european, so
You know if you know occasionally on twitter, people will be like. Do your wife write that joke and yeah like I don't give a shit it's like if you really think that that's fine, but
the pretty pretty good collaboration gleam of light up the air, I don't think you'll mess it up. You too far in two thousand and four into deep nets.
But when the now that was interesting to me so yeah, you come from this background, where
There was a premium put on on security on working and work ethic, and yet more than most comics
to have over time, fairly seemingly deliberately figured out a way to
to really you'll find your audience in and it's a big audience and your ear
you ve never been
sort of mere ashamed or or or or or thought about right,
that doing commercials was a bad thing or that any of that stuff I mean it seems like your work ethic is, is one that
the security that you know that you were confident
often who you were an
style and what was funny about you that you weren't guyana doing that yeah I mean it's,
it's definitely kept my day job longer, but some
That was for creative reasons like
my day job so that I wouldn't have to go and do a bar show in new jersey or I wouldn't have to take cause geraldo quit his job. Pretty early
and so I would see him go and do these wrestling match rice, you know and
yeah. No, I think that there was some some unconscious. Sir
security, but no one going into stand up. I definitely got
point, whereas, like our aid
you know, I never imagined I would be married. I was like I came to conclude
or it I'm gonna be the weird uncle mia that lives in small filthy apartment manhattan. Their brothers is bring me nieces and, if he's ever, to see the bathtub in the kitchen right and an that- and I had gone through and been rejected by all these festivals fer you I've been,
stand up all my
everyone, all you guys and geraldo, and in bag had all done conan and
All these late night shows and I have been rejected by all of them. So I had gone through all this anger.
had gone to a point where all right doing this,
because I love doing it, I'm
maybe I'm gonna be able to make a living combining the commercials and stand up, but I don't
like Geraldo, wanted headline, I never imagined
I didn't really see like wanting the headline. Now wasn't my goal. I know it sounds like you know the actor that's like I just wanna do community theatre more. Do you want to do
I wanted to be a writer on letterman. I wanted
be a writer on letterman or
You know my goal really was to do stand up on. Letterman now is, if I could do,
and upon letterman, then all of
all these years eve indicated yeah, I end cause you know back. Then it was if
someone found out you're a comedian that they have you been on any shows.
while the validation
so you are actually doing some acting work before you know you really bro
is a comic yeah. There's plenty of times when people thought that I was
I did a movie with Denis leary and he didn't know as a comedian, so that hurts, as you know, in some ways I didn't care
No, but it wasn't yeah I mean those.
many years ago? Now I know I know, but I'm just trying to see like us. What I was saying is basically that once
did realize your stand up.
once you build a business around your stand up. Yeah, that's! U, including you, know tat.
Projects in doing like three kings in china, movies and and commercials that I think, because of your work.
in your family there
your you know. Your values were very specific. You know I've got a family to feed right and an eye,
that you know when I see your output in how you know diligently, you are with
with releasing cds dvds? Another book marketings be good for you, and then
in pushing forward and becoming like you.
theatre act almost exclusively. I have to assume that some of that is, thankfully
driven by your family responsibilities. I think yeah, I think fear as a motivator is pretty important and you're, but you're very you know. You're very like working, I like no, no, no yeah but like, and the thing is that you know usually be saying this stuff about. You know somebody who would do anything, but you don't you very specific and your scent. Do you remember when you started to break or how it happened and gas cars
there's important moments where you know getting on doktor cats,
was like huh sure I yeah. I remember that yeah. Those are all great, but that was like. I want to be one of the guys moment. Well, it was it was. It was yeah. That was, I want to be one of the right, but
beyond the pale it was.
Comedy central. I had done a half hour geraldo and I did the same night and
Geraldo had done three more half or two more half hours and I couldn't get arrested a comedy
central and then my manager was with
same management company that handled the blue collar guys right and company sent from
like you, want any more hours at my man.
It was like what about Jim gaff and so is like a different person. So, like this hierarchy,
Many central someone else had bought an hour from me, so the bees
the pale god on comedy central and that chain
several everything I did that completely changed everything. So the
targets joke was on there. When I had done my half hour, they didn't use how paca, thank god in my and beyond the pale they they do.
have fun.
of ours of stand up
They could arid at any time. So it just
they are the hell out of it and it just served as an infomercial
and so that that turned me into a theatre right. It took like six months after it,
started airing ah, but
yeah? I was all beyond the pale that really did it, and then you know, I think, combined with a lot of acting
so people are like. Oh, he was from city.
Had that part in section the city or riah, pardon right, name
for sort me became a guy that was across all their medium. They register ino. We could sell eight hundred tickets in the theater right so but
but, but, but also significant, is that you
you're dealing. I think what was
Are we comedy central issue? Was that your comedy
I was in a sort of time was,
it's also sort of grown up and the eu in a way. I would assume that your audience was primarily adults.
People your age issue, you know it's it's it's weird, because I don't you,
like the because it's like I'm doing the chauffeur, that's gonna
tv landing, how miss hale and that's the first instinct everyone's again, you know
dear old, like forty year olds like this stand up, but that's not the case. The cases is that,
twenty year olds and forty year olds, like it and so
well. I might go together, no, no! No! No! No! No seriously! No but comedy central, it was t v. Land was just going to do it right and then
it was presented as well.
Comedy central might be eighteen to twenty five or whatever the demographics are, but
those are the people that are watching my special income is right.
So I don't know what I'm trying to say here, but it's interesting you audiences job is. Is it safe to penal think it's we urged
www Jim was kids and by the. But if you look at like people, they got a comedy shows there,
people that have no asia right. I guess what I'm saying is that you know
or the kind of act that your dad could brings kid to europe
the kind of act that
but I could bring his dad can also a kid who could bring his girlfriend do not feel embarrassed right,
and the other in and out of, want to say, family act, but I mean
you know you're you're humor is universal and your craft is solid and it's not. You
think you're, like I don't think you're without risk. You, I think,
Your character is, is clearly has darkness to it and their struggle there, but you know you're fairly, calculating and that you, you know whether you want to be clean or not. You don't find it necessary to to not do that,
in its a smart choice. One hears, here's, here's how I hunted describe it is I'd.
In fact comedians get too much credit and too much criticism for what the that further.
I stand up. They do anyway right, so people must
we like you're so honest mark via, but in a lot of ways. That's the only
and if you would do we actually. I can write any other way so sad to say that our course in everyday life. But if I'm right
in a joke and re writing at the it's not necessary to curse if I'm talking about steak
so so the whole thing is said: its euro look
I'm not somebody who would will you
my go on stage in front of a roomful of strangers and say fuck, you motherfuckers, but I'm kind of like there's a
a bit of the mid western world like ma, am a curse. There's someone's grandma right that is so
took me a while to realise that that also has to do with writing. My writing process is all you knows improvisational. So I think that when because you're very meticulous I mean, but I'm improvising on stage a lot right, but but there's
You know where your beats are. I know it well, there is something about. You can't do this for fifteen twenty year,
yeah and not start writing on state of course, and so there is something about
I'm just saying that when you know where your beats are like the idea that you know when you working a joke about stake yummy,
richard your beats. You don't have to say
stake, your if I'm just
stage I just say to stake, I'm gonna fuckin stay, I'm gonna do that! Well, it's it's authentic! For you, it's authentic for chris rockets are authentic for louis black right, but it's it's it's!
your casino brian weaken its it's. You know it's like
we both said the same thing in interviews. It's like our fate
we're comedians are filthy here, but it's it's not it
it's not like one of those things where Jesus told me to know how dangerous it is. It's just kind of, and I really do if it's how
stand up comes out here and in David cross. Can only do that type of comment right. He could do a character of a different type, a comedy and its some
that is finding your point of view in your voice. When did you
restart doing the the sec
voice
Second voice was something that was it was kind of. It was
one of my personality as a teenager, where I would talk to somebody and it would just diffuse the situation. So I can't blame the gym sitting in my garage. I hope Jim doesn't want this to come out when his books published I'm gonna fuck him
by not releasing, but so some of it is it's a great tool
defusing any art grass right. It's it's an awareness right, but I didn't do it. The first
six years I did stand up. I remember I started doing it in dc at the december.
When I was you know in the middle before a towel and a towel would make fun of me. He was like oh really you're, going to do this. Okay, grandpa and
so it was, it was kind of
something where I used. I also think I'm just talking so that
I'm on the seller at one. In the morning,
give them time to say anything right for all comment here.
I dont worry, relax all. I know I'm talking about bacon for too long here, so it
but we all have voices and our head.
Giving them a plan. I just recently started doing this blogger that
I don't know. If I did, then I you saw me where I say I have an inner blogger. That's reviewing my show, as it is yeah yeah,
it started off strong, but now he seems to have taken sort of sidetracked. He thinks his jokes real smart, but is not smart at all yeah. Exactly,
We all have this inner and you know that
You know me or comedy I mean you
like Johnny Carson, used to comment on his joke
but when we were in new york at that point,
when it was really kind of you and I can say it was hand to hand combat, but are you showed run mobility?
weakness by the audience there's a good reason why europe
when Brennan louis see, K David tell,
There is a dead pan in how they deliver things right. You know Todd bury its because
if you show the happy so,
kind of like I m a level both the? U will get eaten alive for new york and that's considered weakness, ryan, and I think it's changed a lot when I think they are.
the committee has opened up a bit so that with your way of of being vulnerable ways.
in writing and weird yeah, but it was a blazing. It became completely defining georgi your voice down.
and did you know it when you did it first
did you you were you liked I get on with this now,
I thought it was a great opportunity to to come up with additional tags from a different point of view right. So I was like I can get a couple more jokes in here yeah I can do.
You know there's not going to be a crazy christian woman,
this audience whose judging this, but they will
Enjoy this point. If you right right
Oh yeah. There is some of the accusation.
rate debts, and you know it would with every now and then for them.
That means I would do it, and people would just be like this is just stupid right
So when I did my initial commonly central half hour here I
chickened out and I didn't do it at all, really yeah. So
I've been doing it for a year and then
you're like a bad night, the poor like when you're running it. I think I can. I think you know it was probably fifty
fifty error. Maybe it was probably eighty twenty pounds like you know, emphasis tv special. I want to risk it and Bobby
the pale you're like yeah, yeah and now
the defining moment and by you ve, been very diligent about what he put out a new out every year. No I'd say every two years and now the
thing this year with the book you out, you gotta come now now the second book. Second, second book seconds,
That then feels like it right on top of the other yeah. Maybe this is food book and I feel like I've been writing about food fur
twenty years anyway. It's it's kind of.
Half of the book was compiling it and essays, and half of that was colonel.
of ideas or tweets that over time
is that your demon food near
I think that's the one. The people see you now when you got what I felt like I m here, to tell you now.
I've got a lotta demons. I think that you know I think
that don't drink anymore. Now I drank occasionally
I went through five or six years
drink at all where I was like. I really want to get on top of this, but
I and my demons I have, I have a fair amount of em
I mean it's and you know, I think that there's
you know jealousy is still a strange thing, but that's all insecurity, stuff, it's all insecurity, but I think that
stana comedy is, you know the
incidentally, I dunno have you encountered this? It's pretty common. You know it's like kind of grumpy. I do a sad, it's it's it's! You know the endorphins flow yeah right, there's nothing there.
and I don't care where it is its that's one.
Things that I learned. I know that it's cooler to do is show at the seller or at a certain place, but I just care about get
up on stage and I think it's important to be able to make a lot of different.
People ask, but I was a little that people politically people that
that look at you like? I don't think I'm going to like you or don't know you. Winning them over is really fun getting the people that are like you know who he is because now I'm in this weird place where you know usually, if I do a club, I can sell it out, but there's still going to be a good quarter to a third of the people they're just there for comedy
and them guy guy? You know you at all that I then it's like. That's it yeah! That's the best
That's your job!
just entertained. Stranger, well, that's the valid and that's what I realized. Looking back on, you know with the odd,
a thing maybe lui made reference to this. But that's why he did it
is because he's at such a level of fame that if he follows bill bird, whose crushing it is a true serum for his act right now
If that's the balancing act is, I think people are funniest when their most comfortable, but there is also a belief that peace
A lot of humor comes out of you know. Situations of fear, like I have to
I have to do well or I will die a miserable death in front of right.
I'd want to families of that is weird because I d you know like I will beat the shit out of myself.
in that moment and
have to translate. I have to transcend that on top of do well. Why
for me- it's like. I don't ever go out there with a warrior spirit like I'm a fucking kill it. It's just sort of
god damn it run.
It's not going in our own way. I mean I remember one time I am seinfeld. What do you do when you follow some
whose really filthy niggers it doesn't affect me at all and on europe has
here, I believe, stand up is very much a conversation. The end
our point of view and our relationship. It's you know, thurs,
you know you can be a town whose can
the formula my jokes are so funny. I don't care if you like me or not, but I think
this long conversation and some of it is unselfish the
more comfortable! I feel the funny or I'm gonna be absolutely. And if I come up with a wine during the show, I will love you forever. He is adequate and end it'll be better for them. So I I don't know if I'm
You know. I appreciate the fact that I grew up doing stand up
in front of audiences that we would see those dead. I see her. I I mean pre obama, just tables of african americans, turning away from you, because you are the wrong color right but- and I think you do
You know there is some cow,
since that are important for making you and I comic, but I think
in front of her warm audience is, is pretty good witch.
Eight and a day I'm just experiencing over the first time as you can be truly comfortable and that's what should happen
that's worth because you ve got twenty years a fuckin craft under your belt and if you don't have to fight
some guy happen and that's where I mean I think you know. I know I've said authenticity but
You can go up there and be authentically funny
where they know you're just making it up. That's that's it! That's gold! That's crack! That's
old and then you can go into like dino are, let's start hidden, some pop flies for you
yeah. So alright, now that's great so the book
The new ones called food, a love story and wednesday show on its
the shows on in june that some one will put this up near him.
If that law no kidding, I'm gonna wait till after your show premiere and then
go to my therapist and also for kind. I just you know. I don't want him to succeed now. We might you dear yearly one
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that's it. That's our show him the best. So areas
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